Trump humiliated by fact-check after claiming Canada used AI for 'cheat' Reagan ad (www.irishstar.com)
from bytesonbike@discuss.online to world@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 13:35
https://discuss.online/post/29422739

President Donald Trump was once again fact-checked following an embarrassing tantrum over a Canadian advertisement.

The ad quoted former U.S. President Ronald Reagan from 38 years ago criticizing tariffs – a policy tool Trump frequently employs. The commercial includes audio clips from an April 25, 1987 radio address where Reagan stated: "Over the long run such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer.‘’

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iamacar@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 14:00 next collapse

He has no capacity to feel humiliated. He doesn’t care about the truth or facts. And most of his followers are the same way.

DrFistington@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 14:50 next collapse

He’s angry he got caught being the piece of shit that he is. To him the problem is that the truth came out

Pringles@sopuli.xyz on 26 Oct 15:41 next collapse

Except he does feel humiliation and I think he feels it more intense than most. I’m not a psychologist but it appears to me as one of his main motivations to do something. Because deep down he’s a deeply insecure little shit and all this strong man stuff is just a facade he puts up.

I would argue humiliation is what he fears above all else and that makes him lash out even stronger.

iamacar@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 16:41 next collapse

I get what you’re saying but this is a definition “Humiliation is the abasement of pride, which creates mortification or leads to a state of being humbled or reduced to lowliness or submission.”

That does not sound like what Trump feels or does. He may change what he says or actions but I don’t think it’s out of humiliation. But rather a narcissistic need to be liked. He still thinks others are wrong and he doesn’t care to change to help anyone but himself. No self reflection or thought that he could be wrong.

It’s still nice to see him look so hurt when it happens and would like to see more of it. From a jail cell would be great.

anomnom@sh.itjust.works on 27 Oct 17:09 collapse

Yeah, he gets angry when contradicted, but never regrets or apologizes for it. In fact, usually he doubles down or pivots to whataboutism or other fallacies.

slaacaa@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 19:44 collapse

Definitely, he has a very fragile ego. I’m also not a psychologist and too lazy to look it up, but read smg about the two types of narcissm, vulnerable and grandiose, which have very different behaviours, but come from the same internal feeling of inferiority.

I actually worked with a client very much like him, absolutely incompetent with fragile ego, always playing powergames and trying to humiliate others. What was surprising to see is how hard it is to deal with them, they really exhausted me, and at the end I left the project looking worse than I could have with a normal person. They also openly abused everybody, peers and teammates, not just me the lowly service provider. And the results of his work was always horrendous: crunch hours, months of delays, missing features, etc. I only hear bad things about them from others, yet I always saw some people falling over themselves trying to please this horrible human being, and I couldn’t understand why.

It’s like some people are inherently drawn to these narcissists, while others are repulsed by them, and these two types don’t understand the others. I look at similar world “leaders” like Putin, Orban, or the South American chainsaw clown, and laugh at these idiots, yet millions are happily voting for them.

kandoh@reddthat.com on 26 Oct 16:09 collapse

During his first term I watched him cry at a sports match because the whole stadium booed him.

jballs@sh.itjust.works on 27 Oct 02:05 collapse

I would like to see this please.

SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml on 26 Oct 14:01 next collapse

Days without Trump being a national embarrassment: 0

Days without Trump doing something stupid for a 5 year old on the playground: 0

randompasta@lemmy.today on 26 Oct 14:07 next collapse

Days without Trump doing something that will take decades to fix: 0

ininewcrow@lemmy.ca on 26 Oct 14:43 next collapse

Days that the majority of America did anything meaningful to deal with Trump: 0

pelespirit@sh.itjust.works on 26 Oct 15:18 collapse

Canada has a pretty far right bend right now, we’d love advice on how to fix it.

[deleted] on 26 Oct 15:40 next collapse
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pelespirit@sh.itjust.works on 26 Oct 15:42 next collapse

Canada is using guns to stop their far right? I think they have pretty strict gun laws.

PokerChips@programming.dev on 27 Oct 17:33 collapse

They’re looking to the neighbors to the south and not seeing them doing anything different with their rights to a militia

Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 17:12 collapse

Are guns working for the states?

dubyakay@lemmy.ca on 26 Oct 15:40 collapse

I think we should stop voting in ratchet liberals. And we need NDP to run on a platform of election reform.

pelespirit@sh.itjust.works on 26 Oct 15:44 collapse

Huh, sounds easy. How does one person do that?

dubyakay@lemmy.ca on 26 Oct 15:54 collapse

How does one person do anything?

SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml on 26 Oct 16:37 collapse

What does ONE mosquito do at night in your bedroom that keeps you awake?

merc@sh.itjust.works on 26 Oct 17:59 collapse

Drink their blood. Got it.

WanderingThoughts@europe.pub on 26 Oct 16:15 collapse

I’d argue there are too many structural issues, all too established to ever fix. Trump is just abusing these with abandon instead of papering over them like often happened in the past.

Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 16:33 collapse

The only hope at this point is that it’s so broken by the end that no amount of “tweaking” the current plan/formula is worth doing. Would at least be nice if the light at the end of the tunnel is that a whole new modern way of life will be possible to rebuild from the ashes. Even without trump breaking it further, the current plan wasn’t going well, long term. It’s going worse now, but in an unsustainable way. The old plan would have taken much longer to get this much worse.

WanderingThoughts@europe.pub on 26 Oct 16:54 collapse

will be possible to rebuild from the ashes

The problem is that the billionaires are thinking the same thing and their ideas for a "new modern way of life* are a bit different from the rest of the population.

Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 17:10 collapse

Well, to be fair, I’m assuming a little French Revolution will be part of the current system burning down.

SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml on 26 Oct 22:26 collapse

Copy that, build the guillotines fire proof.

Donkter@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 15:48 collapse

Days with meaningful consequences for his actions: 0

ayyy@sh.itjust.works on 26 Oct 16:52 collapse

He better watch out, one of these days he might get slammed.

cosmicrookie@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 14:02 next collapse

The fact that Trump ‘accused’ anybody of using AI is a joke by itself!

garbagebagel@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 14:44 next collapse

I fucking hate Doug Ford, but this is by far the funniest shit he’s ever pulled. This is more elbows up than our spineless PM has claimed to be and I am here for it.

krooklochurm@lemmy.ca on 26 Oct 15:18 next collapse

Even a fat, disgusting, beady eyed, selfish, worthless excuse for a clock is right twice a day I guess.

cecilkorik@piefed.ca on 26 Oct 16:48 next collapse

The thing I hate most about Ford is that he can be genuinely likable and relatable at times. Sort of like George Bush Jr, he’s got a non-threatening “I’d sit down and have a beer and chat with him” charisma. It makes it really hard to imagine that he’ll ever lose an election or face any resistance to his policies, even though he is one of the most corrupt and directly threatening premiers in living memory. He is quietly dismantling and privatizing everything about Canada’s largest province and mortgaging its future to cash out for his cronies while keeping the masses distracted and on his side by relaxing regulations and alcohol policies and performative trade rhetoric.

And it makes me angry how amazingly well it works. We get so excited about the unimportant stuff he does because it’s simple and fits in a tweet, and we don’t have the time or energy or context to try to understand the important stuff where he’s intentionally breaking things and stealing from us because it’s complex and convoluted.

al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com on 26 Oct 17:17 collapse

You’re right I would smoke crack with Doug Ford.

RaccoonBall@lemmy.ca on 27 Oct 10:23 collapse

wrong Ford

al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com on 28 Oct 03:09 collapse

Yeah I’m sure his brother never smoked crack. 10 percent tariff on that brain.

ibelieveinthehousehippo@lemmy.ca on 26 Oct 17:09 collapse
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works on 26 Oct 15:00 next collapse

The world series should have run the ad for free. National sports can’t survive if nobody can afford to go to the games. Empty stadiums are empty coffers.

sturmblast@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 15:27 next collapse

This man is delusional. Remove him.

Witchfire@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 15:49 next collapse

He managed to do the impossible. I found myself aligned with Reagan on something.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works on 26 Oct 16:45 next collapse

He also liked jelly beans. So that’s two things in common I guess.

jballs@sh.itjust.works on 27 Oct 02:08 collapse

Apparently Nancy Reagan had a reputation as giving a lot of blowjobs - and I am a fan of getting my dick sucked, so that’s three things.

balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one on 26 Oct 16:55 next collapse

I appreciate that you tried to sound it out but unfortunately his name is in English so sounding it out doesn’t work :(

For context the original spelling in the post was Raygun ;)

No actually Raegan, English is fun.

TrickDacy@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 17:07 collapse

Reagan*

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 16:11 next collapse

If only this demented narcissist could feel humility.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 26 Oct 16:33 next collapse

No he’s not humiliated, the guy can’t be humiliated, he’s a giant narcissist. He’ll simply day the facts are wrong and he’s right and that’ll be the end of it.

Having said that, can we PLEASE start pushing journalists to stop using this clickbait language like slamming, blasting, humiliating, etc? It is so tiring.

News doesn’t need to be 100% constant in your face exciting. Give me boring news, and lots of it

balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one on 26 Oct 16:55 next collapse

You lost that battle in about 2004 unfortunately

jballs@sh.itjust.works on 27 Oct 02:06 collapse

Yeah I remember complaining about “slammed” on Fark back in the day. That was at least 20 years ago.

ameancow@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 18:20 next collapse

I wrote a similar reply to this post before I saw yours.

I DESPISE this kind of perspective-isolating, emotion-validating, reinforced fantasy world that media has created. The article has zero content, it just repeats the taglines content of more reputable news sites but throws it in among about 3 million ads and slaps a fantasy-world headline on it to make people think we’re winning some points against the literal most powerful people on Earth who are celebrating their victories every day.

Fuck this kind of clickbait, fuck people who post it. Sorry OP.

Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 19:42 collapse

Just wait until Gen z and Gen alpha grows up and becomes the journalists.

The president SKIBIDI RIZZED the prime minister over the weekend.

34 die in middle eastern artillery barrage… IN MINECRAFT

Google announces new AI sex bot will replace all need for romantic relationships, NPC Unc Tech Bros say they’re totally DELULU

Lab grown hot cheeto dust: BUSSIN NO CAP? or EXTRA MID?

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MTZ@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 17:23 next collapse

Anything that he doesn’t like is either fake news, artificial intelligence, or both.

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 17:25 next collapse

This is just to distract from the Epstein Files.

kn0wmad1c@programming.dev on 26 Oct 18:04 next collapse

Wait, does he hate AI now? Or did he really fly a plane and dump shit on the no kings protesters?

ameancow@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 18:22 collapse

No, and this article is bullshit invented to pander to people who want to see Trump humiliated. It’s fantasy, it’s lying. It’s lying to viewers for money and ads and clicks.

lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 26 Oct 18:11 next collapse

Trump humiliated by fact-check

This has never happened ever.

salacious_coaster@infosec.pub on 26 Oct 20:00 next collapse

Yeah, but we need copium and jumping off points for online snarking

yourgodlucifer@sh.itjust.works on 26 Oct 22:31 collapse

The fact checkers are clearly radical leftist antifa and they are lying /s

ameancow@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 18:18 next collapse

No he was not “humiliated” and we should be writing these rags hateful, scathing letters holding them accountable for contributing to this atomized worldview that is literally wrecking our whole society. There is no content in this article, it’s 90% ads all over the page, it’s just the same material reported in other news sites, but with a more sensational headline.

I don’t care that clickbait gets better views, I don’t care that they make more money. We are letting them get away with fabricating entire universes for select segments of populations.

People read shit like this and get all sweaty and satisfied and pump their fists and say “YEsss! Another victory! These clowns are going to crumble ANY DAY NOW!”

As they continue to celebrate living like royalty and bandits, taking food from children, blowing up innocent humans, shitting on the country and facing zero consequences. Articles like this are part of the downfall of democracy.

whiwake@sh.itjust.works on 26 Oct 18:33 next collapse

Yes, Trump doesn’t give a shit – and people get all hot and bothered thinking they can assassinate him with words

Rivalarrival@lemmy.today on 26 Oct 23:50 collapse

I dunno, huck an old, unabridged dictionary at him hard enough, and he’d probably go down.

whiwake@sh.itjust.works on 26 Oct 23:53 collapse

You would have to bring that in to the White House from outside because they don’t have books in there anymore

YerLam@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 00:01 collapse

They did just open up a big hole that you could launch it through.

shalafi@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 19:55 collapse

Look at the upvotes on this one. Embarrassing that so many lemmings jumped on this.

Let me spell it out y’all: Trump has narcissistic personality disorder. He is not capable of being wrong, let alone humiliated. He doesn’t give two flying fucks what anyone says or thinks, to him, the ad was faked. End of story. He is not able to believe otherwise.

x00z@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 20:03 next collapse

This is what dictators often do; Claim something regardless of it being easy to fact check. Their following eats it up regardless of the truth. The only thing he can’t do is remain silent. His following just needs something they can blindly follow. He could have said “Madonna went back into the past and made a Reagan hologram out of 2 spoons and a piece of paper” and that would be the truth and they’ll fight to protect it. Trump’s biggest enemy is common sense. Everything he does is to destroy this and present himself as the truth.

reddifuge@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 01:10 next collapse

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

PokerChips@programming.dev on 27 Oct 17:28 collapse

Kind of like his he’s saying Democrats are holding up the government from opening and the media even the local media just trots that out as fact.

Lying… If it didn’t ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

shalafi@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 20:06 next collapse

Only time I’ve seen Trump suffer humiliation was when Obama beat his ass at the White House Correspondent’s Dinner. Imagine being in a room with top politicians and journalists, getting hand your ass. I’d laugh, but I’m not Trump.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHckZCxdRkA

If you haven’t seen it, take 10-minutes to see why Trump ran for office, see how we got here.

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works on 27 Oct 01:10 collapse

Thanks Obama…

1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca on 26 Oct 21:37 next collapse

yes we used AI from the 80s. We pulled out a lisp machine.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 00:19 next collapse

Shall we play a game?

humorlessrepost@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 00:52 next collapse

B:\> ren eliza.bas reagan.bas

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 06:50 collapse

From chatgpt-

Prompt: What is a very rough ballpark figure of how long it would take a Symbolics 3600 to process this request on you?

That’s a fascinating question — and quite a big gap in computing history!

Let’s estimate very roughly:

  1. Symbolics 3600 performance

Released around 1983.

Based on a 10 MHz 68000-series CPU with extensive microcode for Lisp operations.

Effective performance: roughly 1 MIPS (1 million instructions per second), though Lisp code was often slower due to dynamic typing and garbage collection.

Floating-point and memory bandwidth were also very limited — on the order of kilobytes per microsecond.

  1. This request

Let’s say your request (this chat exchange) takes me — a large language model with billions of parameters — maybe a few hundred billion floating-point operations (FLOPs) to process. For perspective, a modern GPU (like an NVIDIA A100) can do around 10¹⁵ FLOPs per second (1 petaFLOP) for AI workloads.

  1. Comparison

If we very loosely assume:

Symbolics 3600: ~1 MFLOP (10⁶ FLOPs/sec, being generous)

Modern GPU: ~10¹⁵ FLOPs/sec

That’s a factor of 10⁹ difference.

So if a modern GPU takes about 0.1 s to process your request, then the Symbolics 3600 would take:

0.1 s × 10⁹ = 10⁸ s ≈ 3 years

And that’s if it could even hold the model in memory, which it couldn’t — it had only a few megabytes of RAM, versus the hundreds of gigabytes (or terabytes) needed.

Formfiller@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 22:02 next collapse

Does he actually get humiliated? Is he even capable of shame? He’s a Chester the molester for god sakes

Psythik@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 02:08 collapse

It is impossible to feel shame, when you’re never wrong in your own mind. I would know, I was raised by narcissists.

BradleyUffner@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 00:33 next collapse

Having humility is a prerequisite for being humiliated.

CXORA@aussie.zone on 27 Oct 01:28 collapse

I dont think thats true, pride is required, humility is a (possoble) result.

Adderbox76@lemmy.ca on 27 Oct 02:01 next collapse

Humiliation requires a sense of shame. Which does not exist in Trump’s world.

Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 02:03 collapse

Yeah he’s just angry they aren’t bending the knee. This isn’t shame. He can’t feel shame.

fox2263@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 06:27 next collapse

Donal Trump posting AI videos on a daily basis: this is real

ryannathans@aussie.zone on 27 Oct 06:29 next collapse

“It was AI or something” is becoming mainstream idiot for “it was edited”

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone on 27 Oct 06:36 next collapse

I’ve seen it applied to quite a few crude Photoshops already.

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 06:42 next collapse

“someone hacked my account”

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 27 Oct 09:06 collapse

I think the real meaning is closer to “Me no like!”

JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 08:17 next collapse

He’s not humiliated if he keeps doing it.

moopet@sh.itjust.works on 27 Oct 09:27 collapse

He’s never felt humiliation in his life. He doesn’t understand it.

brem@sh.itjust.works on 27 Oct 09:31 next collapse

You have to have humility to feel humiliation…

Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 09:41 next collapse

Yeah he has no shame at all. It’s only a week since he posted the AI thing with him wearing a crown and shitting on the American people.

incompetent@programming.dev on 27 Oct 23:55 collapse

I didn’t see that one. Got a link?

utopiah@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 10:35 collapse

Hmmm I’m not sure. I’m not a psychologist yet while reading 2020’s “Commander in Cheat: How Golf Explains Trump” I feel like he feel just enough humiliation in his childhood to NEVER want to have that feeling again. He would “win” (huge quotes here because the definition of winning remains entirely up to him) no matter what, in golf, politics, business.

So… he might not feel humiliation anymore but if so I bet it comes from possibly having felt a bit too much of it early on.

MuskyMelon@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 08:42 next collapse

It’s a dying of shame kind of shame for normal people but pedos and rapists have no shame as it is.

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk on 27 Oct 09:15 next collapse

tbf the version of it i saw was an AI video over the audio.

Also it’s not exactly Reagan said in the order he said it, they moved a part of the speech

melsaskca@lemmy.ca on 27 Oct 10:49 next collapse

Trump don’t get humiliated, he throws tantrums.

itisileclerk@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 11:03 next collapse

To humiliate someone is to make him/her feel ashamed and foolish by injuring his/hers dignity.

Lack of dignity is:

  • Lacking composure: Engaging in behavior that is inappropriate, unrefined, or embarrassing, like staggering or reeling across a room in a very undignified fashion.
  • Demeaning others: Believing you can disregard the worth of others to make yourself feel more valuable.
  • Dishonorable conduct: Engaging in acts that are considered shameful, discreditable, or in bad taste.

Ergo, you can’t humiliate someone without dignity.

ProfThadBach@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 11:37 next collapse

This headline is shit. Trump does not feel humiliation.

random_character_a@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 15:43 next collapse

…and if there’s a danger he might, there is a plenty of former entertainment industry personnel to give him a rim job, so he can feel like a king again.

samus12345@sh.itjust.works on 27 Oct 15:54 next collapse

Figure of speech. It is often said on a person’s behalf that someone was humiliated by something, regardless of how the person actually felt about it.

modus@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 19:40 next collapse

I’ve always interpreted the word both intransitively and transitively. No, he does not feel humiliation. He only cares about himself. However, he may have been humiliated from the perspective of the people who explained his mistake to him.

Jerb322@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 01:37 collapse

I read that the older you get the less you feel embarrassment.

I don’t think that he Can give a fuck at this point…

nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Oct 12:05 next collapse

humiliated? i don’t think anyone over there is paying attention

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 16:19 collapse

As a Canadian I am utterly disgusted and livid that a Canadian ad running in Canada was removed, because Americas pedophile rapist president didnt like it. Keep that fascist shit on your side of the border

Jarix@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 16:57 next collapse

Have you been paying any attention? There’s home homegrown fascists here with a love for the us. Maybe we need to clean up our own shit before we just blame the us

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 17:08 next collapse

Okay, but what if I told you they only took it down because a Canadian plutocrat didn’t like it?

Would that be better?

sik0fewl@lemmy.ca on 28 Oct 04:21 collapse

It was running in the US. The target demographic does not live in Canada.