Trump calls Pope Leo ‘weak’ and ‘terrible’ (www.theguardian.com)
from Valnao@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 12:36
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AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 12:49 next collapse

Never thought I’d see the day when blindly pro-Christ America threatens the Holy See with the murder of the pope and the creation of a heretical antipope. Was definitely not on my “Crazies of 2026” bingo card.

ThePyroPython@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 13:01 next collapse

Watch as Trump goes full Henry VIII and starts his own church purely to make raping pre-teens a religious practice and for the tax exemption.

nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 13:05 next collapse

I’ll take “things I didn’t want to know” for €1000 please

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 15:17 collapse

He is the president and he has already demonstrated he isn’t bound by any silly “rules.”

I mean, he could, but why bother?

givesomefucks@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 13:30 next collapse

…

You know the KKK went after Catholics almost as hard as Black people…

Right?

That the whole “a Catholic president will just listen to the pope” was just an excuse to not elect a Catholic?

That Joe Biden’s memories of the good old days when Republicans wouldn’t stop telling him he was “one of the good ones” they were talking about him being Catholic yet siding with evangelicals?

Like, this ain’t new, it’s so old this is how they were brought up, and it goes both ways.

My Catholic grandmother didn’t talk to my mom, ever, because my mom was a different flavor of Christian than Catholic. MAGA boomers grew up during that schism, they 100% never saw themselves on the same side. They think of Catholicism like younger generations think of Mormonism.

What’s going to fuck trump up with Abrahmic religions of all flavors, is the AI pic of him as Jesus.

Was definitely not on my “Crazies of 2026” bingo card.

You’re gonna be really shocked when Muslim leaders start talking about how Jesus is coming back to save everyone then…

gaiussabinus@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 13:48 next collapse

But… But… Wouldn’t Mohammad be the return of Christ? Like that would be the next itteration.

givesomefucks@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 13:57 collapse

No, it’s literally Jesus…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam#Apocalyptic_…

Mohammed was just the most recent prophet, they still view Jesus as the Messiah, just not the literal son of God.

Like how the split between Catholics and Evangelicals is Catholics think he’s literally God, and Evangelicals think he was “just” a son…

The differences are incredibly minor.

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 14:13 collapse

The narcissism of small differences.

krashmo@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 14:56 collapse

This isn’t the first time he’s shared pics of him as Jesus. They didn’t care then and they won’t care now

ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 13:30 next collapse

I was initially surprised by this too. But the more I think about it, the more expected it is.

Trump’s hardcore base is mostly comprised of evangelical protestants. And they fucking hate the pope in every form (more conservative and more liberal ones alike), and Catholics in general.

His comments will energize their support, which has been slipping a bit due to the Epstein files. And as someone else said he, the hardcore base of ultra-conservative Catholics who also support Trump won’t care about his latest comments, because they hate Leo too.

This really is just playing to his base. Not in a 4D chess way, but more in the form of his latest tantrum unwittingly hitting a strategic sweet spot.

NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip on 13 Apr 14:05 collapse

Like… I am not going to say I am NOT surprised.

But it really does make sense if you look at history as a whole. Catholicism has largely always been characterized by a religious third party meddling in politics, economics, and the legal system. When they have a critical mass of Believers, they are a force to be feared. When they don’t? They are a nagging voice that world leaders are expected to kiss the ring of.

In this case? Somehow the catholic church is NOT the most evil voice in the room which… is a whole level of fucked.

But England broke with the pope centuries ago. And people forget that the US was “founded” by protestants. Or that the country is basically controlled by evangelical christofacists (another flavor of protestants). Like… it is STILL a big deal that JFK was openly catholic.

So… in a lot of ways? This is one fallen empire that pissed away its soft power getting mocked by the figurehead of a falling empire that pissed away its soft power.

Patnou@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 13:16 next collapse

Is this dumbass on the R word list? Nobody screws with Chytown it is basically the new york of the midwest. Hell they shoot people over stupid ass shit. Given them something to all hate and you thought Fallugha was bad. I feel sorry for the Pope I am not even catholic that he actually had to come out and make a statement.

Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz on 13 Apr 13:18 next collapse

You would think Catholics would be absolutely outraged by this but the pope, who before was totally taboo to ever criticize, has been getting lots of criticism from Catholics for a long time now, ever since pope Francis was elected and but especially now with pope Leo. Ironically the absolutely fiercest critics of the pope are the so called “tradcaths” or ultra conservative catholic zoomers. If you look at their social media bubble it’s shit thrown at whatever the pope is saying every single week.

I don’t think US conservative Catholics care at all what Trump is saying about the pope. They hate the pope themselves. Maybe they will even cheer on.

givesomefucks@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 13:34 next collapse

This has never happened before!

…

Except for the last 13 years!

yesman@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 13:55 next collapse

Thinking that the wrong dude is the Pope is the most Catholic thing ever.

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Gsus4@mander.xyz on 13 Apr 14:09 next collapse

I mean, the romans had a pontifex maximum too, so it is a vestige of Europe’s roman roots (it even predates the republic)

waddle_dee@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 14:49 collapse

holy shit that meme has to be sent to a friend group immediately lol

cattywampas@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 14:27 collapse

I’m sure this is true for the conservative Catholics, but there are also millions of moderate and liberal Catholics who lean Dem and are most definitely anti-MAGA.

Karmanopoly@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 13:31 next collapse

Also Trump

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EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml on 13 Apr 13:41 next collapse

Now this makes sense, the original of Trump blessing John Stewart threw me.

RaoulDook@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 14:02 collapse

Wow that’s hilarious

UndergroundParking@lemmy.cafe on 13 Apr 14:01 next collapse

Can we just come to an agreement to change the headline format to trump said something stupid <datestamp>?

frongt@lemmy.zip on 13 Apr 19:34 collapse

That happens multiple times per day

UndergroundParking@lemmy.cafe on 13 Apr 19:48 collapse

I’m sure we can come up with some incremental system.

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 13 Apr 14:06 next collapse

Geez, the Pope isnt doing anything to actually hinder his shit plans in Iran. putin is, where is his public outrage?

pelespirit@sh.itjust.works on 13 Apr 14:31 next collapse

All these anti-pope christians realize that Judaism is close to OG recipe for at least until 70 ad, then Catholics (mostly), then all other flavors? Coptic is in the mix too, but I don’t know the dates.

sturmblast@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 15:59 next collapse

Meanwhile, Trump rapes and murders children.

sampao@lemmy.ml on 13 Apr 17:55 next collapse

Oh look, it’s the anti-christ

brachiosaurus@mander.xyz on 13 Apr 18:03 collapse

He can’t call him a pedophile because he’s one too