Pope Leo XIV condemns Russia's 'imperialist' invasion of Ukraine (kyivindependent.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 10 May 22:29
https://lemmy.world/post/29453700

The newly appointed Pope Leo XIV spoke out against Russia’s continued war against Ukraine in an interview on May 9.

Speaking with Peruvian news outlet Semanario Expresión, Pope Leo condemned Russia’s war against Ukraine, characterizing it as a "a true invasion, imperialist in nature, where Russia seeks to conquer territory for reasons of power.”

Pope Leo was appointed just earlier this week on May 8, following the death of Pope Francis on April 21 at the age of 88. On May 7, cardinals officially opened the historic conclave in the Vatican to choose the next head of the Catholic Church.

By clearing naming Russia’s imperialist aspirations in Ukraine, the new pope’s comments come as a departure from his predecessor’s position on the war.

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Donjuanme@lemmy.world on 10 May 22:41 next collapse

I hope he stays away from stairs and 3rd+story windows

mosiacmango@lemm.ee on 10 May 22:50 collapse

And Vances, but that shouldn’t be a problem.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 10 May 23:09 collapse

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ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works on 10 May 23:29 next collapse
lectricleopard@lemmy.world on 11 May 02:53 next collapse

Good lord…

I want to hang it on my wall…

bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works on 11 May 05:23 next collapse

Is there an higher res?

ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works on 11 May 11:50 collapse

Definitely. At some point ‘enhance’ kind of stopped being a joke

bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works on 11 May 11:52 collapse

So AI?

ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works on 11 May 12:15 collapse

Yeah

chrischryse@lemmy.world on 11 May 15:31 collapse

Lmao these fucking memes are never gonna get old

Lucky_777@lemmy.world on 10 May 22:59 next collapse

Religious MAGA nutts cry that their leader doesn’t believe Ukraine started the war.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 10 May 23:09 next collapse

Most maga nuts are protestant.

Eldritch@lemmy.world on 11 May 00:02 next collapse

Most maga nuts are protestant.

*Anti-christ

Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world on 11 May 04:04 collapse

They do wear the mark on their foreheads…

whostosay@lemmy.world on 11 May 04:16 collapse

It seriously seems like they are trying to find the exact definition of a shitheel and act it out. It’s wild

finitebanjo@lemmy.world on 11 May 06:42 collapse

Evangelical, even.

Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip on 11 May 00:38 collapse

Most maga nuts dont really accept the pope AS religious leader but instead some fat, wealthy fuckerfronm live tv, which is funny to think about.

untakenusername@sh.itjust.works on 10 May 23:21 next collapse

all the tankies gunna hate this guy now

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 10 May 23:31 collapse

depends. If they are nevertheless happy with his social justice policies, they’re tankies, if they also hate his social policies anyway, they’re just closeted/crypto fascists.

oce@jlai.lu on 11 May 00:21 collapse

I don’t think anyone slightly left will ever be happy with a Pope’s social policies because they are inevitably decades or centuries late to adjust to society. Francis started to open on welcoming homosexuals in the church, but he still said it’s a sin because any sex outside of mariage is a sin, and gay mariage is not allowed by the church.
Maybe Leo will make some new timid move like “maybe it’s not a sin after all, gotta think about it” but nothing revolutionary will happen.
Progressists as defined on Lemmy will never be elected pope.

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 11 May 00:34 next collapse

Yeah, the church will always be a conservative institution, they oppose anything revolutionary. So on a good day they’ll take a “shame on you greedy heartless fuckers” approach to politicians and billionaires, but never the Robin Hood approach. But usually on the local level, you’ll just get your neighbourhood reactionary priest being a dick.

Carmakazi@lemmy.world on 11 May 00:43 collapse

If any progressive has an opinion on the Catholic Church, it’s most likely that is that it should be wholly disbanded, its assets donated to the needy, its relics donated to museums, and its clergy investigated and arrested for crimes against children.

Not much love between the two groups, so imagining some sort of alignment of goals at any point just feels like a waste.

WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml on 11 May 17:25 collapse

Donating all their assets to the needy is actually supposed to be an alignment of goals, and that’s why progressives find the church so frustrating.

resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee on 10 May 23:58 next collapse

Legend.

.ml in disarray.

biofaust@lemmy.world on 11 May 05:15 next collapse

How can they be tankies AND give a shit about what the Pope says?

bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works on 11 May 05:22 next collapse

I tried to come up with an answer and I cant

grue@lemmy.world on 11 May 06:13 next collapse

Hey @admiralpatrick, come say your catchphrase!

Anyway, the answer is: if they didn’t have double standards, they’d have no standards at all.

drmoose@lemmy.world on 11 May 06:23 next collapse

They just don’t like their cognitive dissonance challenged doesn’t matter who’s who. It hurts the peanut brain.

InverseParallax@lemmy.world on 11 May 09:15 next collapse

It’s cultural jamming, they just argue no matter the detail as their goal isn’t intellectual honesty or persuasion, it’s disruption of social fabric and generally drowning out any possible consensus.

In their defense, they learned it from watching corporate pr firms, but even those had resource constraints.

thewedtdeservedit@lemmy.cafe on 11 May 09:49 next collapse

Jesus was a tankie. I mean OK the Romans killed every Jewish firstborn but the Persian empire would have been even worst

WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca on 11 May 10:59 next collapse

What the hell is with the last few years and suddenly nobody knowing that “worse” and “worst” are two different words with different meanings?

Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world on 11 May 12:27 collapse

phone keyboards universally suck.

biofaust@lemmy.world on 12 May 08:07 collapse

A Communist, such as I also can say I am, is not a tankie.

SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml on 11 May 13:20 next collapse

How can they be tankies AND give a shit about what the Pope says?

There are Catholic Communists. The world does not conform to your perception of drama on a tiny collection of web forums.

biofaust@lemmy.world on 12 May 08:06 collapse

Ah yeah, the Cattocomunisti, as we call them in Italy. Too bad there is no such thing in the reality of the application of the Catholic doctrine.

resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee on 12 May 20:02 next collapse

Am I wrong?

Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 13 May 02:38 collapse

The Pope! How many divisions has he got?

thewedtdeservedit@lemmy.cafe on 11 May 09:52 collapse

Worldists cheerings for a guy who protect pedos if it allows their country to sell more bombs

kmaismith@lemm.ee on 11 May 09:59 next collapse

The world is cheering that the world pedo protecting org is not using its political influence to spread further political disarray. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good

thewedtdeservedit@lemmy.cafe on 11 May 10:00 collapse

Ah yes Jesus would have wanted us to send more bombs. He famously talked about slapping back harder

ManixT@lemmy.world on 11 May 10:07 collapse

Russia and Israel should stop their wars then

thewedtdeservedit@lemmy.cafe on 11 May 10:30 collapse

Maybe given that the two of them are allies, we should stop sending send weapons altogether.

Nobelshill

Skullgrid@lemmy.world on 11 May 17:17 collapse

herpists derping because anyone who isn’t perfect should be crucified

bappity@lemmy.world on 11 May 00:12 next collapse

W POPE

finitebanjo@lemmy.world on 11 May 06:43 collapse

This is a very much welcomed change from Francis.

VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com on 11 May 01:53 next collapse

So does most of the western world, Russia doesn’t care.

Ton@lemmy.world on 11 May 04:07 next collapse

Most, except the hard right in the West, including Trump and his sycophants.

tauren@lemm.ee on 11 May 06:34 collapse

Still, it’s important to remind the world about that, so that the world doesn’t give up on Ukraine and doesn’t elect Putinverstehers.

nothingcorporate@lemmy.world on 11 May 02:39 next collapse

Such moral courage 🙄

lennybird@lemmy.world on 11 May 03:01 next collapse

Are the kids still saying based? Might I nominate His Holy Basedness?

ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world on 11 May 04:14 next collapse

Damn, right after Putin said that he hopes for a good relationship with the pope too!

tauren@lemm.ee on 11 May 06:31 collapse

All he has to do is to stop the war and fly to The Hague.

jjpamsterdam@feddit.org on 11 May 04:38 next collapse

He seems to be better than the last guy when it comes to Russia’s war. That guy really thought it was the fault of NATO/Ukraine/whoever…

daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml on 11 May 06:44 next collapse

That guy really thought it was the fault of NATO/Ukraine/whoever…

Maybe he just hasn’t seen all the evidence yet. He just started after all.

ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world on 11 May 09:47 collapse

Yes, it will take him some time to sift through all the secret intel that only popes get to see lol.

finitebanjo@lemmy.world on 11 May 06:45 next collapse

Not really that they were at fault, per se, he just wrongly assumed a better outcome would come if Ukraine surrendered. Personally, I think that would just give Russia and China the greenlight to expand further and faster.

thewedtdeservedit@lemmy.cafe on 11 May 08:41 collapse

War is peace

thewedtdeservedit@lemmy.cafe on 11 May 08:41 next collapse

Apparently he also protects pedophiles.

jjpamsterdam@feddit.org on 11 May 11:53 collapse

He is Catholic after all. Luckily I live in a jurisdiction where it’s legal to refer to the Catholic Church as a “cult of child fuckers”, which seems a very accurate description in my opinion.

dan80@lemmy.ca on 11 May 13:21 collapse

Pope Francis was a Jesuit. When in 1773 the church dissolve the Jesuit order, many of them fled to Russia, where Catherine the Second gave them hospitality. The order was restored in 1814. Since then, Jesuits have always had a soft spot for Russia.

MelonYellow@lemmy.ca on 11 May 08:29 next collapse

Nice! Too bad Russia’s Eastern Orthodox not Catholic.

Valmond@lemmy.world on 11 May 11:07 collapse

They are not Orthodox either so 🤷🏼‍♀️

Edit: it’s controlled by the FSB you bongheads

MelonYellow@lemmy.ca on 11 May 14:24 collapse

Well, the Russian Orthodox Church is Eastern Orthodox and more than half of all Eastern Orthodox live in Russia 🤷🏼‍♀️

Alaknar@lemm.ee on 11 May 09:26 next collapse

Ffinally! It was shameful how Francis was dancing around the subject, trying REALLY HARD to not name russia as the invader.

tetris11@lemmy.ml on 11 May 10:00 next collapse

So far:

  • ☑ Condemns Trump
  • ☑ Condemns Putin
  • ☐ Condemns Netanyahu (partial)
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org on 11 May 10:03 next collapse

What’s your stance on protecting pedophiles mr. Pope?

tetris11@lemmy.ml on 11 May 10:05 next collapse

I believe in the power of friendship. Old friends, good friends, true friends who got me here today, friends I can take to the park but not if there are any kids around…

Valmond@lemmy.world on 11 May 11:07 collapse

And Xi?

gabbath@lemmy.world on 11 May 12:18 collapse

He’s said some things…

I guess it’s a start, though I hope he calls them out more directly. He was pretty close to Francis after all, and Francis even donated his popemobile to be turned into a mobile clinic for Gaza (no doubt to draw media attention to what Israel is doing).

Etterra@discuss.online on 11 May 12:22 next collapse

Thanks Pope Bob.

nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 May 12:38 collapse

wow what a hot take. thank you, religion man

slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org on 11 May 17:29 collapse

I had to rape 0 children to know that war is actually bad. But glad they figured it out the long way round.