Israeli Colonizers Destroy Solar Infrastructure in West Bank Northern Plains (imemc.org)
from mrdown@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 06 Oct 13:00
https://lemmy.world/post/36969153

cross-posted from: altmedia.house/post/114242

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HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 06 Oct 13:08 next collapse

Fucking children with a temper tantrum committing genocide because of a book written by bronze age goat herders.

mrdown@lemmy.world on 06 Oct 13:12 next collapse

Because of ethrnic supermasist ideology and backing from neo colonial and imperialist countries back up

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 06 Oct 13:18 collapse

They could have decided not to do this. But they did. Don’t fucking shift blame.

mrdown@lemmy.world on 06 Oct 13:21 collapse

The hell are you talking I never shifted the blame from Israel

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 06 Oct 13:24 collapse

I called the Israeli government genocidal children and your response was to point to other countries. What info was I supposed to glean?

mrdown@lemmy.world on 06 Oct 13:28 collapse

I am calling Israel a genocidal state not this particular government only and I also oppose the countries that if they did their job under international law Israel would have been stopped in 67 if not in 48. Please don’t tell me you are stupid enough to think that the countries buying and selling arms to Israel and provide diplomatic cover doesn’t make Israel more cocky to finish this war of extermination .

How can you read that Israel build from a supremacist ideology and have the audacity to allude that I try to defend them?

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 06 Oct 13:34 collapse

Oh, so it’s not Isreal’s fault that they choose a genocidal path…

mrdown@lemmy.world on 06 Oct 13:36 next collapse

It is Israel fault and the countries that sell them the arm to commit the genocide . How hard is it to understand that the main criminal and his associates are terrible? I also called Israel a genocidal state since it’s inception so my position against Israel is even stronger than your

PoastRotato@lemmy.world on 06 Oct 13:45 collapse

It is Israel’s fault, and those other countries are enabling them. How are you not getting this?

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 06 Oct 13:42 collapse

Sigh as much as it's trendy to blame religion for everything bad under the sun, Zionism is a secular nationalist ideology based in liberal Enlightenment ideals. While specifically in modern Israel the religious right tends to be the more fascist side, it's not like secular Zionists in Israel aren't also pro-genocide.

[deleted] on 06 Oct 14:25 collapse
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Keeponstalin@lemmy.world on 06 Oct 16:03 next collapse
From Nur Masalha Ch 1 Pg 15-16

At the time the Balfour Declaration was issued, Jews constituted about 10 percent of the population of Palestine, and owned about 2 percent of the land. While Zionist land purchases remained relatively limited during the Mandate period (6 percent until 1948), Jewish immigration into Pales­tine began eroding the immense numerical superiority of the Palestinians.32 Growing Arab awareness of Zionist aims in Palestine, reinforced by Zionist calls for unrestricted Jew­ish immigration and unhindered transfer of Arab lands to exclusive Jewish control, triggered escalating protests and resistance that were eventually to culminate in the peasant- based great Arab Rebellion of 1936-39. Already at the time of the Balfour Declaration, apprehen­ sions concerning the fate of the “non-Jewish communities’ had been voiced in British establishment circles. Edward Montagu, a Jewish cabinet minister at the India Office, had expressed in 1917 his belief that the Zionist drive to create a Jewish state in Palestine would end by “driving out the present inhabitants.”33 Even the enthusiastically pro-Zionist Winston Churchill had written in his review of Palestinian affairs dated 25 October 1919 that “there are the Jews, whom we are pledged to introduce into Palestine, and who take it for granted that the local population will be cleared out to suit their convenience."

A History of Modern Palestine Ch 3

> By February 1947, Britain had had enough. It had more soldiers in Palestine than on the Indian subcontinent, and had been constantly involved in direct clashes with both political leaderships. The number of British casualties had also risen, mainly due to a terror campaign waged by Zionist extremists, the most notorious being the Stern Gang. This terror campaign peaked with the blowing up of British headquarters in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946. But it was not terror that forced the British out. A particularly bad winter in 1946–47, and a harsh American attitude towards Britain’s debt to the United States, created an economic crisis in Britain that served as an incentive for a limited process of decolonization, mainly in India and Palestine

Zionism has always been about the ethnic cleansing of the native populations. You are falling for antisemitic conspiracy theories if you are conflating Zionism and Judaism. Same with conflating Palestinians resistance with Islam as a whole, as if the resistance is born out of some bullshit ancient Antisemitism instead of the resistance to ethnic cleansing.

Zionism goes against the actual teachings of Judaism, it’s very revisionist. Jewish opposition to Israel is as old as Zionism itself. Hasidic Jewish people, while small in number, are still the largest Anti-zionist group in Israel. Jewish people have been at the forefront of Anti-zionist activism for a long time, including Jewish Voice for Peace. Palestinians too of course.

Zionism uses Judaism as a shield, deflecting criticism against it’s fascist actions as anti-semitic, which in-turn raises the amount of genuine anti-semitism experienced by Jewish people worldwide, due to that false conflation of Judaism and Zionism. That’s why it’s critical to detangle that false conflation.

Zionism comes from the same roots of other-izing Jewish people as seen in white supremacy, that’s exactly why it’s been supported by white supremacist since the beginning to present day. For white supremacists, Jewish people are inherently different and need to go back to ‘where they came from’ in the middle east. Christian Zionists, who far outnumber Jewish Zionists, want to trigger the end-times which will kill every ‘nonbeliever’ with the holy war.

Adi Callai, in his video Anti-Semitism, Weaponized, does a phenomenal analysis the history of antisemitism and how Zionism fits into that picture. He has another on the Gaza Ghetto Uprising and on Frantz Fanon which are also just as relevant to the current situation in Palestine as well.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works on 07 Oct 04:23 collapse

Of course there are some good people in such a huge group (in this context the “huge group” is religious people). There are always variations in any large group. However, by your own sources, the good, reasonable people are a repressed minority.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 06 Oct 18:47 collapse

You done with your historical fan fiction? Now read a fucking history book or stoke your hate boner for religion somewhere else. Reported.

To address the only believable (still wrong) part of their comment, no Muslims and Jews did not hate each other for "thousands of years." Until Zionists started showing up Muslims were the least antisemitic group of people out there (not counting Asian societies that didn't know what a Jew even was), and the Middle East would always be a place of refuge for Jews fleeing persecution in Europe. It'd take until the early 20th century, with antisemitic material coming in from Europe and stories of Zionist aggression coming in from Palestine, for this to change.

[deleted] on 06 Oct 14:20 next collapse
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mrdown@lemmy.world on 06 Oct 14:23 collapse

Their stupid supremacist ideology based on ethnic superiority claim and all those countries who been complicit with Israeli occupation, settler colonialism and now genocide allows them to destroy and kill whatever they want

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 06 Oct 14:22 next collapse

Gald to see the world “colonizers” being used instead of Settlers. “Settlers” was a soft word they chose to manufacture consent in main stream media.

mrdown@lemmy.world on 06 Oct 14:25 collapse

You won’t see that in mainstream corporate and alternative media with their toxic neutrality

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 06 Oct 16:20 collapse

toxic neutrality

nice

MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world on 06 Oct 14:28 next collapse

Lebensraum enjoyers

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 06 Oct 16:22 next collapse

Something must have gone seriously wrong in the Israeli hive mind once they realized that other peoples won’t just hand over their countries to them.

mrdown@lemmy.world on 06 Oct 16:28 collapse

They are indoctrinated in a supremacist ideology called Zionism and can’t distinguish between wrong and right. They makes zero sense they keep talking about how Palestinians want to destroy them and that they are the reason peace don’t exists at the same time call Palestinians arab invaders and claim the whole land belong to them

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Oct 17:29 next collapse

That would be Israel’s “Western values” in action…

SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works on 06 Oct 22:24 next collapse

Rude of them

EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com on 07 Oct 00:02 collapse

Considering how Israel, along with the rest of the Middle East, is set to get absolutely fucked by climate change, this is really self-defeating behavior.