Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
on 30 Apr 14:58
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To his credit he is slightly less homophobic than is the norm for the Catholic Church. But that’s kind of like saying someone is less fascist than Mussolini. Objectively better than the alternative, but not actually good.
OK, for marriage. Not OK for unmarried relationships. That’s how I read it as well.
CocaineShrimp@sh.itjust.works
on 30 Apr 14:27
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“The Holy See has made it clear that we do not agree with the formalized blessing of couples, in this case, homosexual couples, as you asked, or couples in irregular situations, beyond what was specifically, if you will, allowed for by Pope Francis in saying all people receive blessings,” he said
Or, without all the fluff
“The Holy See has made it clear that we do not agree with the formalized blessing of couples ... beyond what was specifically ... allowed for by Pope Francis in saying all people receive blessings,” he said
So if Francis said it was ok; it’s fine. But it seems like Francis said it wasn’t fine.
At the same time though, I’ve started to loose lose trust in media outlets and idk how reputable NewsWeek
When everyone else seems to be in a race to the shitheel bottom, the Catholic Church remaining who they’ve always been feels somewhat better in comparison.
So many people are cowering in the face of this fascist admin that anyone willing to stand up at all is given props by many. Look at Anthropic, they’re shady as hell and people are still gobbling their knobs for at least having some level of standards.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
on 30 Apr 19:51
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All major religions are full of pedophile protectors.
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 01 May 10:05
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That’s because they’re essentially cults
Solaris1220@lemmy.world
on 30 Apr 14:33
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In reality, I believe there are much greater, more important issues, such as justice, equality
mf saying they want to focus on equality while at the same time saying gay couples blessings, something that would bring EQUALITY, isn’t a priority… make it make sense 🤡
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de
on 30 Apr 15:00
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They believe marriage is for the sole purpose of procreation, which is their little loophole. They’re so weird about it that I’m surprised they’ve never pushed fertility tests as a pre requisite before allowing a marriage ceremony.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world
on 30 Apr 16:05
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If they truly believe that then why are they all celibate? They are chalk full of pedophiles too. Why I hate any post praising the pope. Fucker also lives like a king. Wonder how many of the popes are pedophiles themselves.
The actual reason is because the church was protecting its assets from the priests. Back then, priests were very powerful members of local government and controlled a large percentage of the wealth in an area. If they could get married and had kids, their kids would inherit the wealth they accumulated instead of that wealth going to the church.
Eastern Catholic priests can marry, actually. There are married Catholic priests out there right now, and not because they converted in from Anglicanism after they married (though those exist, too), but fully cradle Catholics who were married before their vocation. Somehow this has not exploded the church or whatever. It is inconsistent and ridiculous.
This is one of those pieces of info I try to slip in whenever possible. I’m a firm believer that celibacy is bad for the mind, body, and soul when it’s forced on people. Priests may go into it willingly, but years and years of it with no reprieve does bad things to people’s minds. If the church could make one reform that I genuinely believe would be best, it is the celibacy of clergy. Tons of reforms needed, but that one is the one I think needs to happen soonest.
Historically the priesthood/other holy orders was a place to toss the weird people or undesirable heirs. It was a convenient way for the gay uncle to have a respectable job and explain why they didn’t have a wife. It was also a way to keep pedo types isolated but productive, at least until resources led to many orders dissolving.
zloubida@sh.itjust.works
on 30 Apr 16:06
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Infertility is a cause for marriage annulation. So it’s controlled, but a posteriori.
Then they should dissolve their marriages once their children move out, having fulfilled its only purpose. Staying married after you’re done having kids is lust, pride, and vanity.
/s
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works
on 30 Apr 19:33
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He meant it in a Catholic sense; material equality.
nullPointer@programming.dev
on 30 Apr 15:04
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leader of child rape ring says something scummy… this is news?
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
on 30 Apr 15:10
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Of course he is. See, gay couples have less kids, which will further reduce the catholics numbers… cause most religious people were indoctrinated as kids. The number of adults who willingly become catholic if not raised catholic is tiny in comparison. So they need to keep the gays among them pretending to be straight and having kids for show and proof.
Periodic reminder: the Episcopal Church exists. Has all the rituals and sacraments, the Apostolic Succession, but also ordains women and Queer people to the priesthood and blesses their marriages. The Episcopal Church is present in Germany (part of the Episcopal Church in Europe, formerly known as the Convocation of Episcopal Churches in Europe).
It’s almost like there’s a religion that covers most all beliefs. Like the religious machine doesn’t even care who gives them money while providing moral elitism at the same time
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works
on 30 Apr 19:37
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Leo does a god job of being Pope, in that he is a centrist. Everyone can have something they agree and disagree with him; that way he is guaranteed to reach a wider audience.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
on 30 Apr 20:25
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So he thinks other issues should be focused on, but wastes time addressing this? How is reciting a prayer for a few additional couples taking away from Equality? Seems to me, it helps the issue, no?
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Am I misreading? leo is saying he does NOT agree with the cardinal saying it’s fine for same-sex marriage?
Yeah. Cause he’s still a homophobic piece of shit, he’s just an anti-war homophobic piece of shit. We should not be surprised by this.
figured as much, i guess. TIL the catholic church is bigoted as fuck. More at ten.
Just today you learned the Catholic Church is bigoted?
Woosh
Sure you’re using that correctly?
Yes
To his credit he is slightly less homophobic than is the norm for the Catholic Church. But that’s kind of like saying someone is less fascist than Mussolini. Objectively better than the alternative, but not actually good.
Yeah, I’m sure he can turn a blind eye on gay sex if it’s between a grown man and a little boy.
OK, for marriage. Not OK for unmarried relationships. That’s how I read it as well.
Or, without all the fluff
So if Francis said it was ok; it’s fine. But it seems like Francis said it wasn’t fine.
At the same time though, I’ve started to
looselose trust in media outlets and idk how reputable NewsWeekNewsweek is not reputable.
Loose the trust where? You shouldn’t let your trust just run wild. I’d keep it secure.
I usually let my trust run around off leash at the parks
~every time…~
Breaking news: The Pope is still Catholic!
Coming up: New report confirms bears shit in the woods
I’m getting a breaking report here. Field reporters are telling me, sky blue. I’m not sure what this means, stay tuned for hourly updates
New update: Pigs still ground dwelling mammal
This just in: Hell still above 0°C !
From the way he has been talked about on the web for several months you would guess he wasn’t
When everyone else seems to be in a race to the shitheel bottom, the Catholic Church remaining who they’ve always been feels somewhat better in comparison.
What did he even say that enticed people?!
What psycho countries do you live in?
So many people are cowering in the face of this fascist admin that anyone willing to stand up at all is given props by many. Look at Anthropic, they’re shady as hell and people are still gobbling their knobs for at least having some level of standards.
My prime minister stood up to Usa. Most of Europe did. While bring far more progressive. People should drop the pope and praise us instead.
And also a pedophile protector. Don’t forget the church is full of them.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz77-E6Bi90
All major religions are full of pedophile protectors.
That’s because they’re essentially cults
mf saying they want to focus on equality while at the same time saying gay couples blessings, something that would bring EQUALITY, isn’t a priority… make it make sense 🤡
Some animals are more equal than others.
Some people are more animals than others.
They believe marriage is for the sole purpose of procreation, which is their little loophole. They’re so weird about it that I’m surprised they’ve never pushed fertility tests as a pre requisite before allowing a marriage ceremony.
If they truly believe that then why are they all celibate? They are chalk full of pedophiles too. Why I hate any post praising the pope. Fucker also lives like a king. Wonder how many of the popes are pedophiles themselves.
Priests cannot marry. Marriage and the Priesthood (Holy Orders) are the only sacraments that are mutually exclusive.
Still stupid it’s nowhere in the bible. Makes me believe the priest thing was made for repressed pedophiles.
The actual reason is because the church was protecting its assets from the priests. Back then, priests were very powerful members of local government and controlled a large percentage of the wealth in an area. If they could get married and had kids, their kids would inherit the wealth they accumulated instead of that wealth going to the church.
Eastern Catholic priests can marry, actually. There are married Catholic priests out there right now, and not because they converted in from Anglicanism after they married (though those exist, too), but fully cradle Catholics who were married before their vocation. Somehow this has not exploded the church or whatever. It is inconsistent and ridiculous.
Had never heard of that before, thanks for the info
This is one of those pieces of info I try to slip in whenever possible. I’m a firm believer that celibacy is bad for the mind, body, and soul when it’s forced on people. Priests may go into it willingly, but years and years of it with no reprieve does bad things to people’s minds. If the church could make one reform that I genuinely believe would be best, it is the celibacy of clergy. Tons of reforms needed, but that one is the one I think needs to happen soonest.
Historically the priesthood/other holy orders was a place to toss the weird people or undesirable heirs. It was a convenient way for the gay uncle to have a respectable job and explain why they didn’t have a wife. It was also a way to keep pedo types isolated but productive, at least until resources led to many orders dissolving.
Infertility is a cause for marriage annulation. So it’s controlled, but a posteriori.
Then they should dissolve their marriages once their children move out, having fulfilled its only purpose. Staying married after you’re done having kids is lust, pride, and vanity.
/s
He meant it in a Catholic sense; material equality.
leader of child rape ring says something scummy… this is news?
Of course he is. See, gay couples have less kids, which will further reduce the catholics numbers… cause most religious people were indoctrinated as kids. The number of adults who willingly become catholic if not raised catholic is tiny in comparison. So they need to keep the gays among them pretending to be straight and having kids for show and proof.
Well, didnt the last pope embraced all of his sheeps?
Why would gay couples want to be blessed by a religion that actively demonizes them?
To troll the pope
Periodic reminder: the Episcopal Church exists. Has all the rituals and sacraments, the Apostolic Succession, but also ordains women and Queer people to the priesthood and blesses their marriages. The Episcopal Church is present in Germany (part of the Episcopal Church in Europe, formerly known as the Convocation of Episcopal Churches in Europe).
It’s almost like there’s a religion that covers most all beliefs. Like the religious machine doesn’t even care who gives them money while providing moral elitism at the same time
Leo does a god job of being Pope, in that he is a centrist. Everyone can have something they agree and disagree with him; that way he is guaranteed to reach a wider audience.
So he thinks other issues should be focused on, but wastes time addressing this? How is reciting a prayer for a few additional couples taking away from Equality? Seems to me, it helps the issue, no?