return2ozma@lemmy.world
on 23 Mar 07:19
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Dimona, where the second missile hit, is perilously close to Israel’s main nuclear reactor and research site. Iranian state media said the strike targeted the nuclear facility in retaliation for an attack on an Iranian nuclear enrichment site at Natanz, though the IDF has said it was unaware of that operation.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
on 23 Mar 08:34
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Mm yes “unaware” of course…
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
on 23 Mar 11:43
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So Israel used a civilian neighborhood as a human shield for it’s nuclear facility?
Causing shrapnel to fly a bit is one way to get those numbers without deaths, but even then you have a high risk of many serious injuries, these aren’t controlled explosions
monkeyman76@fedinsfw.app
on 23 Mar 07:57
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FAFO.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org
on 23 Mar 10:22
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All those civilians really bombed the shit out of Iran yeah.
ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca
on 23 Mar 10:50
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Also fuck off with the “Civilians don’t fight wars” IN ISRAEL THEY DO! Israel has a conscription. Holy shit man, every Jewish man and woman has to serve, every male Druze has to serve, every male Circassian has to serve. Their military is LITERALLY made up of civilians.
And the israeli settlers I posted? what are those to you? more civilians “not” fighting? admit you’re and not that bright and move on.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 23 Mar 11:37
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fuck the people in it.
Now that's going too far. There are decent Jewish Israelis (though they're an overwhelming minority), and of course 1948 Arabs have nothing to do with this.
I get the proportionality bias, the feeling of wanting to make things even, and also the survey / voting record based statistics. I still feel that violence towards civilians will only cause more hurt down the road, and so we shouldn’t cheer it on. Regardless of which side inflicts it.
I don’t know if this news article is referring to civilians, I haven’t read it yet. My comment is specific to this comment chain
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 23 Mar 11:47
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It’s a common Israeli talking point to associate any critique of their government with antisemitism.
It’s very transparent.
It’s the same people acting as mouthpieces that are silent when Israel actually targets hospitals or their soldiers torture babies and rape prisoners. Hard to pretend they aren’t the ones indoctrinated to hate a specific set of people.
Your hate towards anyone that isnt subservient to Israel has turned a massively shitty theocratic regime into some kind of weird underdog worth cheering for.
It’s like if Italy and Germany were fighting in WW2 and you dont understand why people are cheering on Italy, but even more, you actually think the Nazis are the good guys. Everyone else is simply going “they both suck but one is clearly worse than the other, because of the genocide and all”.
Put all the quotes that you like but you are either against Zionism or pro genocide.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org
on 23 Mar 13:46
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It’s also a common anti-semite talking point to declare clear-as-day anti-semitism as anti-zionism.
Very transparent.
And btw. I am against zionism while still being able to tell that it’s a bad thing to slaughter civilians. Wonder why you aren’t.
stephen01king@piefed.zip
on 23 Mar 13:53
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In this case, all the victims are disproportionately Zionists, so what you’re claiming is the less likely thing to be happening here. It’s also very transparent when Zionists try to hide behind the Jew identity so they can avoid consequences for their actions, you know?
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org
on 23 Mar 13:58
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In this case, all the victims are disproportionately Zionists
There is no possible way for you to know that. You are basing this assumption exclusively where these people happened to have been born.
There are polls showing the majority of Israelis consider themselves Zionists. For example.
I want to say you’re just uninformed, but I’m way too used to the way Zionists argue to recognise when they are just acting like they don’t know so they can make false arguments that aren’t based on any facts.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org
on 23 Mar 14:19
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And I am sure you would classify “The Jerusalem Post” as a trustworthy source as well, when it doesn’t conform with your views, yes?
Also they asked some 500 people out of almost 10 million Israelis.
I repeat myself: there is no way to know weather the killed civilians were zionists. And even if they were, murdering civilians is bad, regardless of who they are or who does the killing.
Btw, cheering for civilian deaths because they are part of a genocidal regime doesn’t make it antisemitism just because they happen to be Jewish. I don’t approve of it but the distinction has to be made in any case.
So yes obviously, murdering civilians is bad, but it’s not worse because they are Jewish. One side also happens to be a lot better at it, and it shouldn’t be ignored because the murderers are Jewish.
Religion has nothing to do with it in the end, I just want to be clear because your main point revolves around it, mostly because your a Mossad propaganda account that’s trying to muddy the waters.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org
on 23 Mar 14:45
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No, you were implying antizionism = antisemitism.
No I wasn’t. I was saying that cheering for dead jewish civilians is anti-semitism because these people would not cheer for dead civilians of other countries, like russia for example.
stephen01king@piefed.zip
on 23 Mar 14:58
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And you’re making this assertion based on which data?
Why do you think they are cheering because they are Jewish and not because they are a part of a genocidal regime that’s shown itself to be the worlds greatest evil of the past decade or two?
I don’t approve of the cheering but do you really think everyone is too stupid to see the spin you are trying to pull with it? Pathetic.
Do you classify them as an untrustworthy source when it doesn’t conform to your world view? I treat them as a source that I compare with other sources.
Do you know how polls are made? 500 people is enough to get an insight into the trends inside a population. There are other factors that affect the accuracy more than having more people surveyed. You’re free to analyze their methodology and come up with an argument for why it invalidates the result.
Like I said, they are more likely to have been Zionists than anti-Zionists, given the proof I’ve provided. Never did I claim they all are Zionists. I also never even claimed murdering civilians is a positive thing. All I did was disprove your claim that the anti-Zionists sentiment here are caused by antisemitism.
Also, you avoided giving proof that you had made comments calling out Israel for killing civilians in multiple countries when the other guy asked for it, so forgive me for doubting your position that you are against all civilian death. The way you argue are far too reminiscent to the way Zionists do for me to take your word for it.
Point me towards a comment where you have been critical of Israel bombing hospitals in Lebanon, bombing refugee camps in Palestine or causing over 1000 civilian deaths in Iran these past few weeks.
I know it’s a bad thing to kill civilians. That’s why I’m against the country that goes out of its way to do it. Israel revels in civilian deaths.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org
on 23 Mar 14:20
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I know it’s a bad thing to kill civilians.
cool so we are in agreement as to my initial comment that it is fucked up to cheer dead civilians.
This comment is why I can’t take you at your word when you say you’re against all civilian deaths.
Not only do you not have any proof to give, which might be explainable by you not getting the chance to make such a comment just yet. But instead of simply explaining why and using this chance to call out Israel for their atrocities against civilians, you decided to focus on one part of the comment so you can avoid criticising Israel while claiming the moral high ground.
This is a very typical Zionist tactic which is convincing me more and more that you are not arguing in good faith. I can still be wrong, but you’re not making it easy for me to trust you.
Israel’s & Israeli sympathizer’s labeling of antisemitism for all criticisms is making that phrase meaningless. They’re putting jewish people at risk by hiding behind it.
Just own it, people are hating on that country because they commit war crimes, warmonger nonstop, and use mossad to run pedo rings to influence / control their “allies” governments—then pretend to be the victim.
We love to supremacists who setup camping chairs and bring snacks to watch children be bombed by their supremacists military finally face consequences of the terror they’ve inflicted on so many nations and taste a tiny bit of their own medicine, and they happen to identify as Jews.
Israelis meanwhile unapologetically love watching “Arabs” die at their hands.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today
on 23 Mar 12:30
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Not only die, they love watching them be tortured and raped as well.
But it sure is a little fucking difficult to have a lot of sympathy for fewer than two hundred INJURED Jews when Israel has murdered way more than 20,000 Palestinians - countless instances of running them over alive with bulldozers or tanks, crushing them alive in the treads, or just shooting random kids.
Little fucking difficult to feel too much sympathy there.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 23 Mar 11:38
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I wish it happened another way (say, by the missile hitting its intended target), but in general it's a good thing for Israelis to know they're not invincible.
You find it weird people are cheering for an evil country getting bombed?
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Mar 14:32
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It’s amazing how quickly leftists support was crimes so long as the victims are “the right people”.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org
on 23 Mar 14:46
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I am not convinced these people are leftist tbh. At least in my leftist circles in the real world atrocities like these are not celebrated.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Mar 15:28
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Maybe not - though the anti-Israel stance of most / many leftist certainly seems to be getting pretty rabid. And the person I called a ‘leftist’ didn’t dispute that claim.
stephen01king@piefed.zip
on 23 Mar 15:03
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I’m also amazed at how quickly you blame leftists based on one person’s comment that gave no indication that they are a leftist.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Mar 15:10
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I’ve been on lemmy long enough. It’s always lefties.
So you’re making assumptions based on your flawed and biased experience instead of factual data. Got it. I expected that given the quality of comment you provided above.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Mar 15:14
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😂
I assume everything you say is only the highest of quality peer-reviewed science too.
No, I simply recognise what I perceive may not be the same as reality and would double check my assumptions before posting any comment so I do less mistakes. I especially do not proudly proclaim that my comments lack any research whatsoever and that I’m completely fine with it like you are doing.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Mar 15:22
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I especially do not proudly proclaim that my comments lack any research whatsoever and that I’m completely fine with it like you are doing.
Let me phrase this in a dickish way to which you are accustomed:
So you pretend you do “research” and present your shit ideas as though they have any basis in fact despite the fact that they’re just as flawed as my expereince-based observations? Got it.
Checking if the person I’m accusing of being a leftist is a leftist first before posting the comment is not pretending to do research, it’s simply common sense.
You somehow think that making comments involves either peer-reviewed science or zero research at all and nothing in between. You also seem to be proud of not double-checking your assumptions at all. From these two observations, I can tell that you have a few issues up there that needs to be addressed.
daychilde@lemmy.world
on 23 Mar 15:10
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Are the leftists in the room with you right now?
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Mar 15:20
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I suppose I don’t really know why I engage with willfully ignorant dumbasses. It’s just that it feels wrong to leave the really fucking stupidly wrong comments with no reply. I know it won’t break through the ignorance. They’re living in their own little alternate reality, ignoring everything that doesn’t fit into their little constructed worldview, attacking everyone who is actually trying to make the world a better place.
But I guess it makes me feel better to speak up against the stupidity, even though it’s useless. Because if we don’t, these idiots will dominate the conversation and it will end up with more people going down that path.
It’s like the anecdote of the bar where the guy is at the bar having a drink. Another guy walks in, goes up to the bar and orders a drink. Bartender tells him to get out. New guy says, “Hey, I just want to have a drink and relax, man.” Bartender has none of it, tells him to get out and never come back. New guy leaves, and our original guy asks the bartender about it, to which the bartender replies: “That guy had a swastika tattoo. He was a nazi. And the thing is, he probably would have been polite and had a drink and maybe even made friendly conversation. But the thing about nazis: Once he realized he was allowed here, he’d start bringing his other nazi friends. Once you let one of them in and stay, you become a nazi bar.”
It’s a little glurgy, and maybe it never happened or maybe it’s happened a hundred times… that’s the thing about anecdotes like that.
But the underlying principle is sound.
If we let these fucking fascists take over the conversation, soon this place will be no better than /r/the_donald or /r/conservative or Truth Social or any of the other places fascists congregate.
So I guess that’s why I speak up.
But I don’t really try to change their stupid opinions, because there’s no fucking point. All I really would like to see is for them to shut the fuck up and stop pissing all over the conversation.
They made themselves the right people with the genocide they support. 5 years ago it was a different story. But 100,000+ Palestinians later, I have no sympathy for Israelis. FAFO
BrickEater@lemmy.world
on 23 Mar 15:19
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Because they’re Israeli? And a large majority of Isrealis support whats being done to Iran? If you’re a Jew who still chooses to live there then its your own fucking fault if you get killed. They have literally EVERY opportunity in the world to leave their colonial paradise.
You could say the same about the United States could you not? News flash: relocation when your broke in a shit, war ravaged economy is difficult to put it mildly.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
on 23 Mar 16:30
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Because they want this, they just don’t want it aimed at them.
Israelis have been actively slaughtering innocent women and children in Palestine for years now with the public cheering on, they have started an unprovoked war with Iran by bombing a school killing 150 little girls. This is just a tiny sample of Israel’s recent crimes. Is it any wonder the world has little sympathy for them? About the same amount that we had for the Nazis after all of their war crimes. Get fucked Israel, go eat several bags of dicks.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org
on 23 Mar 19:35
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Litterally foaming at the mouth, having a hate boner for dead/injured civilians. I truely hope you will look back at this in a couple of years and feel the shame you should.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
on 23 Mar 12:27
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“The Israeli military ordered an investigation into what went wrong”
You dumbfucks attacked a people that were willing/able to hit back, that’s what went wrong you absolute blithering assholes!
Gates9@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Mar 14:34
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Is the Israeli public “shocked” that missile defenses are not working? I thought that this has been the widely known since the “12 Day War” last year?
LuigiMaoFrance@lemmy.ml
on 23 Mar 16:08
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Start war, get war.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
on 23 Mar 16:29
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Never happened. Mr Trump says we already won the war. This is just a Democrat hoax.
/S
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
on 23 Mar 16:52
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The started a war with a country full of crazy and could actually fight back and relied on a leader that waffles more than my local brunch place.
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Mm yes “unaware” of course…
So Israel used a civilian neighborhood as a human shield for it’s nuclear facility?
And other military sites it keeps right next to shield shaped civilian infrastructure.
I find it very hard to believe no-one was killed.
Causing shrapnel to fly a bit is one way to get those numbers without deaths, but even then you have a high risk of many serious injuries, these aren’t controlled explosions
FAFO.
All those civilians really bombed the shit out of Iran yeah.
Do you know why you’re being downvoted?
but they’ll roll into Palestine and burn homes and torture toddlers. that’s fine right? Fuck Israel and fuck the people in it.
Civilians don’t fight wars
Their contribution to the economy helps their country wage war.
It isn’t pretty, but it’s the truth.
no…but i’ll say it again because you can’t seem to read. They’ll roll into Palestine and burn homes and attack people. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/terrifying-footage-of-israeli-settlers-on-their-way-to-set-fire-to-homes-on-west-bank/ar-AA1ZauMh
Also fuck off with the “Civilians don’t fight wars” IN ISRAEL THEY DO! Israel has a conscription. Holy shit man, every Jewish man and woman has to serve, every male Druze has to serve, every male Circassian has to serve. Their military is LITERALLY made up of civilians.
When you take up arms you are no longer an innocent civilian.
And the israeli settlers I posted? what are those to you? more civilians “not” fighting? admit you’re and not that bright and move on.
Now that's going too far. There are decent Jewish Israelis (though they're an overwhelming minority), and of course 1948 Arabs have nothing to do with this.
Also, the poor and disadvantaged people are more likely to be outside / not in shelters.
www.thecanary.co/…/apartheid-israel-reserves/
I get the proportionality bias, the feeling of wanting to make things even, and also the survey / voting record based statistics. I still feel that violence towards civilians will only cause more hurt down the road, and so we shouldn’t cheer it on. Regardless of which side inflicts it.
I don’t know if this news article is referring to civilians, I haven’t read it yet. My comment is specific to this comment chain
No but they seem to overwhelmingly support their military's actions. (Likely erroneously) assuming a uniform distribution, out of these 115 about 107 or so are in fact FAFOing.
In a country where military service is mandatory for everyone over 18, are there really any “civilians”?
Go Iran! Fuck em up!
…never thought I would be cheering for Iran. Broken clocks I guess
Why the fuck would you cheer for civilian victims? Sicko.
Some people love dead Jews.
Must be “”“anti-zionism”“” again.
It’s a common Israeli talking point to associate any critique of their government with antisemitism.
It’s very transparent.
It’s the same people acting as mouthpieces that are silent when Israel actually targets hospitals or their soldiers torture babies and rape prisoners. Hard to pretend they aren’t the ones indoctrinated to hate a specific set of people.
Your hate towards anyone that isnt subservient to Israel has turned a massively shitty theocratic regime into some kind of weird underdog worth cheering for.
It’s like if Italy and Germany were fighting in WW2 and you dont understand why people are cheering on Italy, but even more, you actually think the Nazis are the good guys. Everyone else is simply going “they both suck but one is clearly worse than the other, because of the genocide and all”.
Put all the quotes that you like but you are either against Zionism or pro genocide.
It’s also a common anti-semite talking point to declare clear-as-day anti-semitism as anti-zionism.
Very transparent.
And btw. I am against zionism while still being able to tell that it’s a bad thing to slaughter civilians. Wonder why you aren’t.
In this case, all the victims are disproportionately Zionists, so what you’re claiming is the less likely thing to be happening here. It’s also very transparent when Zionists try to hide behind the Jew identity so they can avoid consequences for their actions, you know?
There is no possible way for you to know that. You are basing this assumption exclusively where these people happened to have been born.
There are polls showing the majority of Israelis consider themselves Zionists. For example.
I want to say you’re just uninformed, but I’m way too used to the way Zionists argue to recognise when they are just acting like they don’t know so they can make false arguments that aren’t based on any facts.
And I am sure you would classify “The Jerusalem Post” as a trustworthy source as well, when it doesn’t conform with your views, yes?
Also they asked some 500 people out of almost 10 million Israelis.
I repeat myself: there is no way to know weather the killed civilians were zionists. And even if they were, murdering civilians is bad, regardless of who they are or who does the killing.
No, you were implying antizionism = antisemitism.
Btw, cheering for civilian deaths because they are part of a genocidal regime doesn’t make it antisemitism just because they happen to be Jewish. I don’t approve of it but the distinction has to be made in any case.
So yes obviously, murdering civilians is bad, but it’s not worse because they are Jewish. One side also happens to be a lot better at it, and it shouldn’t be ignored because the murderers are Jewish.
Religion has nothing to do with it in the end, I just want to be clear because your main point revolves around it, mostly because your a Mossad propaganda account that’s trying to muddy the waters.
No I wasn’t. I was saying that cheering for dead jewish civilians is anti-semitism because these people would not cheer for dead civilians of other countries, like russia for example.
And you’re making this assertion based on which data?
Why do you think they are cheering because they are Jewish and not because they are a part of a genocidal regime that’s shown itself to be the worlds greatest evil of the past decade or two?
I don’t approve of the cheering but do you really think everyone is too stupid to see the spin you are trying to pull with it? Pathetic.
Russians don’t get to vote. It’s a dictatorship and they are all suffering under Putin. Israelis on the other hand, voted for and supported genocide.
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Do you classify them as an untrustworthy source when it doesn’t conform to your world view? I treat them as a source that I compare with other sources.
Do you know how polls are made? 500 people is enough to get an insight into the trends inside a population. There are other factors that affect the accuracy more than having more people surveyed. You’re free to analyze their methodology and come up with an argument for why it invalidates the result.
Like I said, they are more likely to have been Zionists than anti-Zionists, given the proof I’ve provided. Never did I claim they all are Zionists. I also never even claimed murdering civilians is a positive thing. All I did was disprove your claim that the anti-Zionists sentiment here are caused by antisemitism.
Also, you avoided giving proof that you had made comments calling out Israel for killing civilians in multiple countries when the other guy asked for it, so forgive me for doubting your position that you are against all civilian death. The way you argue are far too reminiscent to the way Zionists do for me to take your word for it.
Point me towards a comment where you have been critical of Israel bombing hospitals in Lebanon, bombing refugee camps in Palestine or causing over 1000 civilian deaths in Iran these past few weeks.
I know it’s a bad thing to kill civilians. That’s why I’m against the country that goes out of its way to do it. Israel revels in civilian deaths.
cool so we are in agreement as to my initial comment that it is fucked up to cheer dead civilians.
This comment is why I can’t take you at your word when you say you’re against all civilian deaths.
Not only do you not have any proof to give, which might be explainable by you not getting the chance to make such a comment just yet. But instead of simply explaining why and using this chance to call out Israel for their atrocities against civilians, you decided to focus on one part of the comment so you can avoid criticising Israel while claiming the moral high ground.
This is a very typical Zionist tactic which is convincing me more and more that you are not arguing in good faith. I can still be wrong, but you’re not making it easy for me to trust you.
Israel’s & Israeli sympathizer’s labeling of antisemitism for all criticisms is making that phrase meaningless. They’re putting jewish people at risk by hiding behind it.
Just own it, people are hating on that country because they commit war crimes, warmonger nonstop, and use mossad to run pedo rings to influence / control their “allies” governments—then pretend to be the victim.
Has nothing to do with the faith of the people.
We love to supremacists who setup camping chairs and bring snacks to watch children be bombed by their supremacists military finally face consequences of the terror they’ve inflicted on so many nations and taste a tiny bit of their own medicine, and they happen to identify as Jews.
Israelis meanwhile unapologetically love watching “Arabs” die at their hands.
Not only die, they love watching them be tortured and raped as well.
I don’t.
But it sure is a little fucking difficult to have a lot of sympathy for fewer than two hundred INJURED Jews when Israel has murdered way more than 20,000 Palestinians - countless instances of running them over alive with bulldozers or tanks, crushing them alive in the treads, or just shooting random kids.
Little fucking difficult to feel too much sympathy there.
I wish it happened another way (say, by the missile hitting its intended target), but in general it's a good thing for Israelis to know they're not invincible.
You find it weird people are cheering for an evil country getting bombed?
It’s amazing how quickly leftists support was crimes so long as the victims are “the right people”.
I am not convinced these people are leftist tbh. At least in my leftist circles in the real world atrocities like these are not celebrated.
Maybe not - though the anti-Israel stance of most / many leftist certainly seems to be getting pretty rabid. And the person I called a ‘leftist’ didn’t dispute that claim.
I’m also amazed at how quickly you blame leftists based on one person’s comment that gave no indication that they are a leftist.
I’ve been on lemmy long enough. It’s always lefties.
So you’re making assumptions based on your flawed and biased experience instead of factual data. Got it. I expected that given the quality of comment you provided above.
😂
I assume everything you say is only the highest of quality peer-reviewed science too.
No, I simply recognise what I perceive may not be the same as reality and would double check my assumptions before posting any comment so I do less mistakes. I especially do not proudly proclaim that my comments lack any research whatsoever and that I’m completely fine with it like you are doing.
Let me phrase this in a dickish way to which you are accustomed:
So you pretend you do “research” and present your shit ideas as though they have any basis in fact despite the fact that they’re just as flawed as my expereince-based observations? Got it.
Checking if the person I’m accusing of being a leftist is a leftist first before posting the comment is not pretending to do research, it’s simply common sense.
You somehow think that making comments involves either peer-reviewed science or zero research at all and nothing in between. You also seem to be proud of not double-checking your assumptions at all. From these two observations, I can tell that you have a few issues up there that needs to be addressed.
Are the leftists in the room with you right now?
I mean… Have you been on lemmy long?
I suppose I don’t really know why I engage with willfully ignorant dumbasses. It’s just that it feels wrong to leave the really fucking stupidly wrong comments with no reply. I know it won’t break through the ignorance. They’re living in their own little alternate reality, ignoring everything that doesn’t fit into their little constructed worldview, attacking everyone who is actually trying to make the world a better place.
But I guess it makes me feel better to speak up against the stupidity, even though it’s useless. Because if we don’t, these idiots will dominate the conversation and it will end up with more people going down that path.
It’s like the anecdote of the bar where the guy is at the bar having a drink. Another guy walks in, goes up to the bar and orders a drink. Bartender tells him to get out. New guy says, “Hey, I just want to have a drink and relax, man.” Bartender has none of it, tells him to get out and never come back. New guy leaves, and our original guy asks the bartender about it, to which the bartender replies: “That guy had a swastika tattoo. He was a nazi. And the thing is, he probably would have been polite and had a drink and maybe even made friendly conversation. But the thing about nazis: Once he realized he was allowed here, he’d start bringing his other nazi friends. Once you let one of them in and stay, you become a nazi bar.”
It’s a little glurgy, and maybe it never happened or maybe it’s happened a hundred times… that’s the thing about anecdotes like that.
But the underlying principle is sound.
If we let these fucking fascists take over the conversation, soon this place will be no better than /r/the_donald or /r/conservative or Truth Social or any of the other places fascists congregate.
So I guess that’s why I speak up.
But I don’t really try to change their stupid opinions, because there’s no fucking point. All I really would like to see is for them to shut the fuck up and stop pissing all over the conversation.
They made themselves the right people with the genocide they support. 5 years ago it was a different story. But 100,000+ Palestinians later, I have no sympathy for Israelis. FAFO
Why? Because fuck them, thats why.
Because they’re Israeli? And a large majority of Isrealis support whats being done to Iran? If you’re a Jew who still chooses to live there then its your own fucking fault if you get killed. They have literally EVERY opportunity in the world to leave their colonial paradise.
You could say the same about the United States could you not? News flash: relocation when your broke in a shit, war ravaged economy is difficult to put it mildly.
Because they want this, they just don’t want it aimed at them.
Israelis have been actively slaughtering innocent women and children in Palestine for years now with the public cheering on, they have started an unprovoked war with Iran by bombing a school killing 150 little girls. This is just a tiny sample of Israel’s recent crimes. Is it any wonder the world has little sympathy for them? About the same amount that we had for the Nazis after all of their war crimes. Get fucked Israel, go eat several bags of dicks.
Litterally foaming at the mouth, having a hate boner for dead/injured civilians. I truely hope you will look back at this in a couple of years and feel the shame you should.
“The Israeli military ordered an investigation into what went wrong”
You dumbfucks attacked a people that were willing/able to hit back, that’s what went wrong you absolute blithering assholes!
Is the Israeli public “shocked” that missile defenses are not working? I thought that this has been the widely known since the “12 Day War” last year?
Start war, get war.
Never happened. Mr Trump says we already won the war. This is just a Democrat hoax.
/S
The started a war with a country full of crazy and could actually fight back and relied on a leader that waffles more than my local brunch place.