Diplomjodler@feddit.de
on 23 Jan 2024 20:33
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Great technology! It’s totally going to solve climate change!
silence7@slrpnk.net
on 23 Jan 2024 20:35
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At the cost it comes in at, it competes with longer-duration energy storage. Very expensive, and only has value to the extent that it reduces the need to build storage instead.
Vathsade@lemmy.ca
on 23 Jan 2024 21:55
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We need to accept a premium for the cleanest and safest baseload generation we have.
Diplomjodler@feddit.de
on 23 Jan 2024 22:04
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You can build a lot of batteries for 35 billion. And those don’t produce waste that you have to store for millennia.
xmunk@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Jan 2024 23:07
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Some modern nuclear reactor models produce less long-term waste than batteries.
Diplomjodler@feddit.de
on 24 Jan 2024 06:40
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Hypothetically. None of those are anywhere near to actually being built.
TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Jan 2024 23:15
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Lmao and what about battery waste when they’re past their lifespan in 15 years?
partial_accumen@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2024 04:57
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Lmao and what about battery waste when they’re past their lifespan in 15 years?
Well, if you mean Lithium batteries, you grind up the dead batteries and make new Lithium batteries from that. Its not like lithium is burned up never to be used again with these. Here’s the lithium and cobalt extracted from recycled lithium batteries after all the plastic and other metals are removed:
But that’s today’s tech. Sodium batteries are quickly taking over for grid scale storage. Sodium you might know as the 7th most abundant element on Earth, so we’re not running out of that any time soon.
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on 24 Jan 2024 04:57
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Buffalox@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2024 12:54
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Oh boy, why are these sorts of comments always upvoted by people who obviously don’t know shit?
First Lithium batteries are often reusable for secondary purposes when they don’t meet original specifications, and then they can be recycled pretty efficiently.
Buffalox@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2024 12:47
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Brexit could be playing a big part too.
Worker and material shortage have been problems caused by Brexit in other industries too. Inflation is also blamed for the increased price, and that has been worse in UK after Brexit than comparable EU countries.
But we are talking about a 12 year delay now, no way this latest delay is all due to Covid and Brexit. Now they complain about Piping complexity 7 years after it was due! Really?
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Great technology! It’s totally going to solve climate change!
At the cost it comes in at, it competes with longer-duration energy storage. Very expensive, and only has value to the extent that it reduces the need to build storage instead.
We need to accept a premium for the cleanest and safest baseload generation we have.
You can build a lot of batteries for 35 billion. And those don’t produce waste that you have to store for millennia.
Some modern nuclear reactor models produce less long-term waste than batteries.
Hypothetically. None of those are anywhere near to actually being built.
Lmao and what about battery waste when they’re past their lifespan in 15 years?
Well, if you mean Lithium batteries, you grind up the dead batteries and make new Lithium batteries from that. Its not like lithium is burned up never to be used again with these. Here’s the lithium and cobalt extracted from recycled lithium batteries after all the plastic and other metals are removed:
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You can watch the whole process from dead battery to extracted materials here, if you want.
But that’s today’s tech. Sodium batteries are quickly taking over for grid scale storage. Sodium you might know as the 7th most abundant element on Earth, so we’re not running out of that any time soon.
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You can watch the whole process from dead battery to extracted materials here, if you want.
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Oh boy, why are these sorts of comments always upvoted by people who obviously don’t know shit?
First Lithium batteries are often reusable for secondary purposes when they don’t meet original specifications, and then they can be recycled pretty efficiently.
My bet that is sarcasm and people are stupidly downvoting you.
No one seems to get sarcasm on this website.
Yeah we definitely need to figure out a way of implying sarcasm without having to state it specifically. Oh well, we’ll never figure it out
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As far as I could tell, according to the article this delay is caused by the Covid pandemic.
It happens with almost every nuclear reactor built, no matter when
Brexit could be playing a big part too.
Worker and material shortage have been problems caused by Brexit in other industries too. Inflation is also blamed for the increased price, and that has been worse in UK after Brexit than comparable EU countries.
But we are talking about a 12 year delay now, no way this latest delay is all due to Covid and Brexit. Now they complain about Piping complexity 7 years after it was due! Really?