from breakfastmtn@piefed.ca to world@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 22:38
https://piefed.ca/c/world/p/535228/what-does-navalnys-murder-confirmation-mean-for-russia-ukraine-and-the-west
The effective confirmation by five European countries that Russia did kill opposition leader Alexei Navalny in 2024 did not surprise those familiar with the Kremlin’s track record.
But the Feb. 14 statement, which blames Russia for the murder and specifies the kind of poison used, represents a new milestone in the deterioration in Russian-European relations.
Previously European countries were more reluctant to antagonize Russia. But Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine and Kremlin-linked murders and sabotage all over the continent have pushed Europe towards a harsher and more resolute approach.
“It looks like (Russian President Vladimir) Putin’s penchant for killing has been recognized as outrageous,” Russian political analyst Dmitry Oreshkin told the Kyiv Independent. “And now it will be impossible to restore normal relations with him. The idea that it is possible to make deals with him is becoming less and less popular in Europe.”
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About feckin time. Things should have been gloves off since 2014...
You spelled November 16, 2009 wrong.
Why exactly?
apparently nothing happened in relations to Russia on that day.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Magnitsky
His death was the moment when Russian state dropped any pretense of being civilized.
It’s also roughly the time when Russia has pivoted from “let’s trade” narrative towards “don’t encroach on our turf” threats. Prior to that there was at least an effort to put on makeup on the Europe facing ass cheek.
Ah, I missed that part. To be fair I was only 15 at the time and not that interested in international news 😅
I don’t see how this changes anything, it’s always been well documented that he was poisoned.
This is as if he got shot and years later it was revealed that the bullet that killed him was a 9mm caliber.
Yyyeah basically it means Europe will be 2% more aggressive in its sanctions, which is not saying much.
Nothing, and nothing will change. That’s what it means.
To expand: the idea of international law, or law broadly, is a fantasy that liberals believe in. Our legal systems in the world serve to preserve order, not dispense consequence evenly. There is no greater power, there are no international police, there is no consequence for killing as many people as you want, as long as you have an army and money.
I know this is preaching to the choir for anyone who’s been on the left for a while, but I also assumed all the safety and morality lessons at the end of G.I.Joe cartoons were actually seen and heard by the children who grew up to run the world, and I assumed that people cared about facts and holding onto memories of things they’ve learned, so maybe we all need to start reminding each other how the world works.
The exact same thing that the confirmation that the president of the United States is a pedo does.