Russia’s hybrid warfare could cause ‘substantial’ casualties, senior NATO official says (www.politico.eu)
from FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone to world@lemmy.world on 30 Dec 2024 13:43
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20215956

Moscow has ramped up unconventional attacks against the West since it invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Since its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Russia has ramped up its campaign of so-called hybrid attacks — such as arson, cyber and information campaigns, or sabotage — throughout Europe. 

Recent examples include the alleged cutting of energy and communications cables in the Baltic Sea, which German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius described as “sabotage.” In that case, as in many other examples of hybrid attacks, it is difficult for governments to quickly and definitively attribute the attacks to Moscow.

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bitwise@lemmy.ca on 30 Dec 2024 15:10 next collapse

False equivalence.

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bitwise@lemmy.ca on 30 Dec 2024 16:18 collapse

“American fascism is entirely due to Russian operatives and trolls” is laughable because of how hard it glosses over the steps you have taken to ensure fascism in your own country.

I’m not American, and it’s not fascist thinking to point out the fact that Russia is literally running a fascist playbook to encourage aligned fascism globally.

Pointing that out isn’t meant to excuse the existence of fascists within the US; if anything, its about the idea that there are fascists to work with in every country, and they’re coordinating their efforts.

…m.wikipedia.org/…/International_Democracy_Union

The difference between the US and Russia is there are still people like the head of the FTC trying to curtail corporate power however they can. Russia only does it to enforce loyalty amongst its oligarchs.

This idea that Russia is both too weak to win a war against Ukraine but also strong enough to covertly topple the world’s foremost superpowers is honestly fascist thinking.

The too weak/strong argument is fallacious in this instance because the dimensions we’re comparing aren’t equivalent. A nation that heavily invests in intelligence and asymmetric warfare at the expense of conventional warfare capabilities will be strong in the former and weak in the latter. In Ukraine’s case, Russia thought they were strong in both and found out that they weren’t quite as capable as they had led themselves to believe. That’s why we’re seeing them ramp up the tactics as described in the article.

Once Trump pulls the plug on Ukraine’s funding and access to US intelligence systems, they’ll fall to Russia because they won’t have enough of either capability to win a war of attrition with a larger, richer state.

Carrolade@lemmy.world on 30 Dec 2024 18:01 collapse

Ukraine’s fall without US support is not necessarily a foregone conclusion. That would assume Russian offensives are sustainable, which they are not. They’re involved in a surge of their warfighting potential, which is steadily depleting their arsenals and straining their economy.

It remains to be seen how long they can keep it up.

JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works on 30 Dec 2024 15:49 collapse

You implied that only NATO bombs countries, which is incorrect. You implied NATO members think war for the fun of it is good, which by no means is a common opinion. And you implied that because NATO countries bomb people, it’s okay for Russia to also kill people. Those are some things to start with.

eran_morad@lemmy.world on 30 Dec 2024 14:45 next collapse

We ought to start fighting back in earnest. We could fuck their entire bullshit society if we actually tried.

FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 30 Dec 2024 14:53 next collapse

At the very least, we should reciprocate their election interference by supporting Russian activists and people showing the government’s corruption.

theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works on 30 Dec 2024 16:21 collapse

The West has been doing that for the last century since the revolution showed rich people were still vulnerable.

HK65@sopuli.xyz on 31 Dec 2024 08:29 collapse

The revolution itself was interference to get Russia to collapse in WWI, Lenin was an Imperial German plant.

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world on 30 Dec 2024 15:09 collapse

Who is ‘we’ in this sentence?

HK65@sopuli.xyz on 31 Dec 2024 08:29 collapse

The countries west of Kerch.

etuomaala@sopuli.xyz on 30 Dec 2024 18:11 next collapse

Can private citizens attack Russia without triggering an all-out NATO-Russia war?

catloaf@lemm.ee on 30 Dec 2024 19:08 collapse

Yes, unless Russia considers it an act of war and retaliates by attacking NATO states.

etchinghillside@reddthat.com on 30 Dec 2024 23:19 collapse

Could a person be extradited to Russia for a crime?

HK65@sopuli.xyz on 31 Dec 2024 08:27 collapse

Only if it is also a crime in the extraditing state and if that state has no reason to believe that the punishment would be cruel and unusual.

And if there is an extradition agreement still in effect.

So practically no they can’t. They can still be punished by the potentially extraditing country though.

SparrowHawk@feddit.it on 31 Dec 2024 09:41 collapse

I’m sure this Señor Nato Official will find a solution