Israeli attacked in Greece, assailants flee after seeing his cross (www.ynetnews.com)
from Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com to world@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 2024 10:04
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/24430776

Three assailants target Fahad Qubati after he gave Jewish tourists a ride and only fled after he proved he was an Arab-Christian

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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 2024 10:47 next collapse

Cool. Now I know my life is in danger if I go to Greece because I look very stereotypically Jewish. They didn’t exactly stop to ask the guy what his opinion was on the Gaza genocide.

roboto@feddit.org on 21 Jul 2024 12:34 next collapse

Yeah I think this is very troubling and counterproductive. The article says the guy was recently discharged from the IDF. Which for a Palestinian is weird because they don’t have to join the army, so I’m assuming he’s a Zionist. That being said, a Jew would get killed for being Jewish by these people and an Arab could apparently get away with being a Zionist. So this whole thing is just pointless violence/antisemitism.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 2024 12:38 next collapse

There are “Arab Israelis” as well. Basically Palestinians who weren’t driven out and are now citizens or the descendants of those Palestinians. They have to serve in the IDF regardless of their politics (which, as you can imagine, aren’t very sympathetic toward Israel). They also prefer to be called Palestinian Citizens of Israel, but the media usually calls them Arab Israelis or Israeli Arabs to differentiate them from the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Jul 2024 13:19 next collapse

IDF draft laws only apply to Jews, and male Druze and Circassians.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Israel
Bedouins, etc. serve voluntarily.

And from the Wikipedia page, it seems like it’s not all, but a majority that refer to themselves in that way.

roboto@feddit.org on 21 Jul 2024 15:03 collapse

Yeah I know that there are many of those, but as another poster mentioned except the Druze and some beduins Palestinians with an Israeli passport mostly don’t serve in the IDF.

floofloof@lemmy.ca on 21 Jul 2024 16:27 collapse

The article says the guy was recently discharged from the IDF. Which for a Palestinian is weird because they don’t have to join the army, so I’m assuming he’s a Zionist.

If everyone has to do national service in the IDF, you can’t really assume a person’s politics from that fact.

roboto@feddit.org on 21 Jul 2024 19:20 collapse

As I said he is Palestinian and Palestinians except for a few groups don’t have to serve in the army and most of them do not consider themselves Israeli and have no interest in serving the interests of their colonizer.

febra@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 2024 14:34 collapse

Not that this attack was justified, it definitely wasn’t, but I’m honestly curious what his opinion is on Gaza since he was clearly in the IDF as the article says.

gedaliyah@lemmy.world on 22 Jul 2024 11:21 collapse

Why?

febra@lemmy.world on 24 Jul 2024 06:42 collapse

Why I’m curious? Because he was in the IDF, and I have a very bad opinion of people that are part of the occupation forces. I don’t have any sympathy for him, even if I don’t agree with the attack in itself. I won’t lose any sleep over a genocidal soldier getting his ass kicked.

gedaliyah@lemmy.world on 24 Jul 2024 11:56 collapse

”Before I decide how upset to be about this assault against someone because of their nationality, I need to know if they were one of the bad ones or not."

febra@lemmy.world on 24 Jul 2024 12:21 collapse

Yeah. First and foremost, I won’t shed a tear over a genocidal maniac, nor over a nazi, nor over any other kind of horrible person. I think that’s fairly normal human behaviour. Secondly, the article says he was in the IDF, which I clearly commented on (I didn’t comment on his nationality). I can still condemn the attack as baseless. You’re welcome.

SaltySalamander@fedia.io on 21 Jul 2024 13:41 next collapse

See, Israel. This is what antisemitism looks like.

MeanEYE@lemmy.world on 22 Jul 2024 15:39 collapse

So beating Jews is antisemitism. Firing rockets at them is not. Gotcha!

mildlyusedbrain@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 04:55 collapse

Beating Jews and firing rockets at Jews for the reason of them being Jewish is antisemitic. Despite Hamas absolutely being antisemitic, launching rockets at an occupying state killing your people is not. Americans criticizing their government for giving money to a foreign etnostate attempting genocide, also not antisemitic.

Hope that cleared things up fascist!

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Eggyhead@kbin.run on 21 Jul 2024 18:00 next collapse

Under catholic grandparents, I was taught that crosses are there to make satan's minions flee.

amanda@aggregatet.org on 22 Jul 2024 08:28 next collapse

Seems like it worked in this case (if you beat a random guy in the streets I’m not sure what else to call you)

Eggyhead@kbin.run on 23 Jul 2024 04:27 collapse

Absolutely. I’m not religious, so the hypocrisy stood out to me.

wildcardology@lemmy.world on 22 Jul 2024 15:59 collapse

So the demons doesn’t flee from the cross before Jesus’ crucification.

pineapplelover@lemm.ee on 22 Jul 2024 08:44 collapse

I had to read this over so many times. Kept reading it as “assailants flee after seeing his crocs”. I need sleep

Schmuppes@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 06:37 collapse

And I read the end of your comment as “I need a slap”. I guess I need sleep as well.