squiblet@kbin.social
on 16 Oct 2023 20:17
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What's my option to not pay taxes? Go on hunger strike and starve to death, or be thrown in prison by the IRS?
metaStatic@kbin.social
on 16 Oct 2023 20:53
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No one pays tax, they take tax. You can't be held accountable for what your mugger spends your money on.
That being said Charitable donations are tax deductible. My goal each year is to donate as much as the government takes in tax so I know they're doing something good with my share at least. (Union dues may also be tax deductible)
rikudou@lemmings.world
on 16 Oct 2023 20:31
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Donāt speak for others, please. I personally donāt fancy a lunatic deciding I should get a nuke dropped on me. If you want to be suicidal, do it without harming others. Or even better - get professional help.
Ghyste@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Oct 2023 19:51
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What the hell kind of shit take is this? This article has nothing to do with the US. As eager as you may be are (after checking post history you have a hardon for asshole comments about the US) to shit all over our government at every opportunity, this story isnāt one of them.
Ghyste@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Oct 2023 19:58
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The intel was Israel and they sat on it and let this happen.
Hamas stealing supplies was expected. It has nothing to do with supply line attacks.
Kbin_space_program@kbin.social
on 16 Oct 2023 20:13
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They were. If you had read the article, Hamas posed as government workers to gain access, and the security cameras that look over the compound were damaged in Israeli airstrikes.
Ghyste@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Oct 2023 20:16
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I did read the article. How is that not part of properly securing the supplies exactly? Not properly vetting people is a security issue.
BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social
on 16 Oct 2023 20:19
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Who exactly is meant to do this securing?
That would necessarily require some amount of military force, and the only party interested in that right now, the IDF, has other priorities at the moment.
Ghyste@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Oct 2023 20:22
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Who delivered the supplies and released them to the fakes?
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Oct 2023 20:20
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Itās a war zone?
Ghyste@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Oct 2023 20:22
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And?
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Oct 2023 20:33
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Everything is fubar
Ghyste@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Oct 2023 20:34
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No, I was mocking you. Good job on absorbing that without acknowledging the fact youāre a laughing stock.
Ghyste@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Oct 2023 22:32
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The ignorant one is mocking me? What a concept. Quit wasting my time. The UN made a mistake and you and several others are crying that it was pointed out.
You were also so thirsty for validation that you went through my posts and replied to a response from a different thread to a different person assuming it was you. So now you can also go fuck yourself.
The supplies were not properly secured, with security systems, cameras, and fences because the compound which stored the supplies had airstrike damage.
Who is more liable in the situation, itās hard to say
_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Oct 2023 20:14
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Iām beginning to think these Hamas folks arenāt very nice.
Time will tell I guess. I donāt have a horse in this race so itās just me and my opinions here.
drekly@lemmy.world
on 16 Oct 2023 21:47
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The UN had supplies for a humanitarian crisis. 1+ million people are being evacuated, and more bombs have now been dropped than an entire year in Afghanistan. Is this not a humanitarian crisis?
If Hamas is the government, and the aid is there, then the government has received the aid that the UN delivered?
Iām sure thereās more to this, thatās not mentioned, but the context is odd.
WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world
on 16 Oct 2023 21:58
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Yet another Hamas apologist. yawn
Madison420@lemmy.world
on 16 Oct 2023 22:44
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And youāre not an Israeli apologist? They havenāt agreed with either side, they simply said both are entitled to medical care, is that truly thought provoking.
The UN deleted the tweet and deny that it actually happened. Yet these news articles ignore that. But that doesnāt match with your extremely biased view. Genocide apologist?
BarbecueCowboy@kbin.social
on 17 Oct 2023 02:35
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Hamas does occupy governmental positions, but they're also demonstrably linked to terrorist actions which they take full responsibility for, and I think that takes precedence for most people. With that, many of us are reticent to call them a government.
To your point though, if we can trust wikipedia and if I'm reading it correctly, the ministry of health in Gaza seems to also be under Hamas governance, so I'm not sure who else you'd deliver the foreign aid too.
hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest
on 17 Oct 2023 05:03
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but theyāre also demonstrably linked to terrorist actions which they take full responsibility for
Redgren Grumbholdt
Other countries, including New Zealand, deem only Hamasā military wing, which is called the Qassam Brigades, to be a terrorist group. The U.N. has not designated any part of the organization as a terrorist group.
laylawashere44@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 16 Oct 2023 22:19
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Eh fuel and medicine doesnāt help Hamas kill more people. So who cares. And yeah they might use meds to patch up militants, but guess what, laws of war state that wounded soldiers are allowed medical help.
bartimeo@lemmy.world
on 16 Oct 2023 23:03
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Fuel absolutly helps to kill more people. And wounded soldiers are allowed medical help but those medicines were for the civilians.
laylawashere44@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 16 Oct 2023 22:21
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There isnāt any indication that it was Hamas that stole the stuff? It just that people pretending to be the health authority stole stuff. Couldāve been some selfish asshole civilians who stole shit for themselves when they knew they were likely not priority for that aid.
Wahots@pawb.social
on 17 Oct 2023 01:50
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You fact check a newspaper byā¦ Looking at another website?
zephyreks@lemmy.ml
on 17 Oct 2023 03:01
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āUNRWA received reports that yesterday a group of people with trucks purporting to be from the Ministry of Health of the de facto authorities in Gaza, removed fuel and medical equipment from the Agencyās compound in the Gaza City,ā
Given that Hamas is the de facto authority in Gaza, this cannot be Hamas lmfao
Otherwise, Hamas made no effort to disguise who they were, which is even funnier
TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz
on 17 Oct 2023 03:38
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āHamas Ministry of Healthā reminds me of the Taliban members complaining about office work
ashar@infosec.pub
on 17 Oct 2023 06:52
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Man it would have been great if the UNās cameras had been operating, but they were damaged in a airstrike. Which means the UN compound was air struck. It seems to be the bigger story hereā¦
muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
on 19 Oct 2023 07:48
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Hamas stole his meds.
They said they would crush them up and put them in hamas. š
why weren't they properly secured?
What's my option to not pay taxes? Go on hunger strike and starve to death, or be thrown in prison by the IRS?
No one pays tax, they take tax. You can't be held accountable for what your mugger spends your money on.
That being said Charitable donations are tax deductible. My goal each year is to donate as much as the government takes in tax so I know they're doing something good with my share at least. (Union dues may also be tax deductible)
Donāt speak for others, please. I personally donāt fancy a lunatic deciding I should get a nuke dropped on me. If you want to be suicidal, do it without harming others. Or even better - get professional help.
What the hell kind of shit take is this? This article has nothing to do with the US. As eager as you
may beare (after checking post history you have a hardon for asshole comments about the US) to shit all over our government at every opportunity, this story isnāt one of them.Go fuck yourself. Iām not the one raging about the US in every other comment I write.
Even worse, he assumes all Americans eat Snickers.
And here is exhibit A, it demonstrates cognitive dissonance and a lack of emotional regulation.
Yay for whataboutism!
Oof
Why werenāt the supplies properly secured? This was going to happen otherwise.
Love all the downvotes from people who have no concept of opsec. Please keep making excuses for them.
My goodness the hivemind has migrated. Pointing out a mistake is apparently a grave error.
The intel was Israel and they sat on it and let this happen.
Hamas stealing supplies was expected. It has nothing to do with supply line attacks.
They were. If you had read the article, Hamas posed as government workers to gain access, and the security cameras that look over the compound were damaged in Israeli airstrikes.
I did read the article. How is that not part of properly securing the supplies exactly? Not properly vetting people is a security issue.
Who exactly is meant to do this securing?
That would necessarily require some amount of military force, and the only party interested in that right now, the IDF, has other priorities at the moment.
Who delivered the supplies and released them to the fakes?
Itās a war zone?
And?
Everything is fubar
Indeed it is.
Hamas is the government so how can they pose as government workers?
Bahaha wow
Like I said, not my fault you and so many others have no concept of opsec. Well done summing it up though.
No, I was mocking you. Good job on absorbing that without acknowledging the fact youāre a laughing stock.
The ignorant one is mocking me? What a concept. Quit wasting my time. The UN made a mistake and you and several others are crying that it was pointed out.
You were also so thirsty for validation that you went through my posts and replied to a response from a different thread to a different person assuming it was you. So now you can also go fuck yourself.
it is I, THE IGNORANT ONE! who happens to be on the same forum as thee
lol get bent chump.
Heard it the same exact way when I was reading it.
The supplies were not properly secured, with security systems, cameras, and fences because the compound which stored the supplies had airstrike damage.
Who is more liable in the situation, itās hard to say
Iām beginning to think these Hamas folks arenāt very nice.
Well like it or not theyāre running palestine now.
Only Gaza. About half of the population of Palestine is the in the West Bank, and Hamas doesn't run that
Time will tell I guess. I donāt have a horse in this race so itās just me and my opinions here.
The UN had supplies for a humanitarian crisis. 1+ million people are being evacuated, and more bombs have now been dropped than an entire year in Afghanistan. Is this not a humanitarian crisis?
If Hamas is the government, and the aid is there, then the government has received the aid that the UN delivered?
Iām sure thereās more to this, thatās not mentioned, but the context is odd.
Yet another Hamas apologist. yawn
And youāre not an Israeli apologist? They havenāt agreed with either side, they simply said both are entitled to medical care, is that truly thought provoking.
The UN deleted the tweet and deny that it actually happened. Yet these news articles ignore that. But that doesnāt match with your extremely biased view. Genocide apologist?
Hamas does occupy governmental positions, but they're also demonstrably linked to terrorist actions which they take full responsibility for, and I think that takes precedence for most people. With that, many of us are reticent to call them a government.
To your point though, if we can trust wikipedia and if I'm reading it correctly, the ministry of health in Gaza seems to also be under Hamas governance, so I'm not sure who else you'd deliver the foreign aid too.
Redgren Grumbholdt
nbcnews.com/ā¦/hamas-know-group-deadliest-attack-iā¦
Eh fuel and medicine doesnāt help Hamas kill more people. So who cares. And yeah they might use meds to patch up militants, but guess what, laws of war state that wounded soldiers are allowed medical help.
Fuel absolutly helps to kill more people. And wounded soldiers are allowed medical help but those medicines were for the civilians.
There isnāt any indication that it was Hamas that stole the stuff? It just that people pretending to be the health authority stole stuff. Couldāve been some selfish asshole civilians who stole shit for themselves when they knew they were likely not priority for that aid.
I fact check all newspapers Iām not familiar with. Hereās this oneās reputability (great!): mediabiasfactcheck.com/statesman-journal/
Personal comment:
Hamas stealing fuel and medical equipment from the poor to treat only their own fighters? Hereās my shocked face:
You fact check a newspaper byā¦ Looking at another website?
Given that Hamas is the de facto authority in Gaza, this cannot be Hamas lmfao
Otherwise, Hamas made no effort to disguise who they were, which is even funnier
āHamas Ministry of Healthā reminds me of the Taliban members complaining about office work
The UN denied any knowledge of this.
They first confirmed, then removed that and posted denial.
Man it would have been great if the UNās cameras had been operating, but they were damaged in a airstrike. Which means the UN compound was air struck. It seems to be the bigger story hereā¦
supprised Pikachu face