Cuba refuses to let US Embassy in Havana import diesel for its generators (apnews.com)
from throws_lemy@reddthat.com to world@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 09:54
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cows_are_underrated@feddit.org on 21 Mar 10:08 next collapse

Based

breakingcups@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 11:09 next collapse

Anything can be a diplomatic pouch, if you’re brave enough

frunch@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 12:16 next collapse

Why would they? Good on em for standing their ground. This is all so stupid

zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Mar 14:08 next collapse

And there is a good chance that those generators are not meant for emergencies, but are their main power source. Enjoy the off-the-grid-experience.

MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca on 21 Mar 16:47 next collapse

If the US had any foresight they would maybe out solar panels up. They’re like, pretty close to the equator.

mudstickmcgee@sh.itjust.works on 21 Mar 19:14 next collapse

solar is super woke though.

jim_v@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 06:22 collapse

That’s because solar only works when the sun is awake.

village604@adultswim.fan on 22 Mar 03:00 collapse

I think frequent hurricanes might be why that didn’t happen

merc@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 18:46 collapse

It doesn’t really matter if they’re for emergencies or they’re the main power source. Since the Cuban grid is down, the US embassy could only get power using those generators. So, now they’re as in the dark as the rest of Cuba.

While the Cuban government could still communicate with messengers on motorbikes, the US can hardly do that to communicate with the US mainland, so they’re going to be really cut off.

I assume they have some kind of satellite phone and some spare batteries, but unless they have solar panels or something, once those batteries are gone they’re really cut off.

rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works on 21 Mar 15:20 next collapse

lol, lmao even

WhatThaFudge@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 15:35 next collapse

**The United States has the gall to request import of fuel for themselves to an island they have a blockade of fuel on. ** Fixed that headline for ya AP

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 22 Mar 07:22 collapse

i, surprised cuba hasnt expelled them already.

TheOneAndOnly@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 17:59 next collapse

“…Maduro…who was ousted in a U.S. military operation in January and whisked to New York to face federal drug conspiracy charges”

*Kidnapped.

Ftfy.

Cunts. My country is run, and fed propagandized bullshit, by sycophantic cunts. It sickens me.

CanadaPlus@futurology.today on 22 Mar 03:26 collapse

If they had said “arrested” or something maybe you’d have a point, but “whisked” isn’t far off.

TheOneAndOnly@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 03:49 collapse

I meant kidnapped in place of ousted. We literally just… Kidnapped a sitting ruler, and then just… Moved in the news cycle. Like, I know Maduro wasn’t a good guy… But the fact that we just… Dragged him out of his house and “whisked” him out of the country? It’s unreal to me in this day and age. I know it’s not entirely unprecedented, but I always assumed that all happened because of the ability to obscure the facts from the public eye, due to the lack of mass communication.

CanadaPlus@futurology.today on 22 Mar 14:16 collapse

Does blowing up Iran’s supreme leader seem better or worse, then? I dunno, it’s all just war by international laws and norms. (Although Trump has to avoid calling it that for domestic legal reasons)

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daychilde@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 19:06 next collapse

Seems quite fair.

LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 19:12 next collapse

So weird the media attention on cuba, but no one has mentioned how the grid failed.

I blame trump. He did it.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 22 Mar 07:22 collapse

trumps next target is cuba.

doesit@sh.itjust.works on 21 Mar 19:20 next collapse

Kind of surprised they haven’t thrown the whole embassy out yet.

Chais@sh.itjust.works on 21 Mar 19:44 next collapse

Why would they rob themselves of that tiny bit of satisfaction? The US regime made them miserable so letting the embassy suffer along with them is quite literally the least they can do.

NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net on 21 Mar 22:20 collapse

“IM NOT LOCKED IN HERE WITH YOU.”

bold_atlas@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 04:13 collapse

And deprive themselves of the fun of making CIA agents and diplomats go crazy and shit themselves?

Mister_Hangman@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 21:03 next collapse

They should let them bring it in one diplomatic pouch at a time.

spicehoarder@lemmy.zip on 21 Mar 21:37 next collapse

Cuba has the chance to become the world’s first 100% Solar Powered Nation. Imagine if they ask China for help.

hanrahan@slrpnk.net on 21 Mar 21:55 next collapse

They have

www.msn.com/en-us/money/general/…/ar-AA1YQh3O

spicehoarder@lemmy.zip on 21 Mar 22:02 collapse

Hell yeah 🦾

PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 01:00 next collapse

Syria is also doing the same thing since all their infrastructure was destroyed. Solar power works wonders there.

NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 04:26 collapse

If you do it smartly too, you can decentralize solar better so taking out 1 farm with isnt as bad as taking out a regular power plant with a missile.

CanadaPlus@futurology.today on 22 Mar 03:24 next collapse

I mean, they have trouble paying for basic stuff. I’m sure they’re setting up solar as fast as I can but it’s not going to solve the current crisis.

NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca on 22 Mar 11:49 collapse

China doesn’t necessarily ask for payment - they also support infrastructure development via the Belt and Road Initiative in which they own the infrastructure built.

It’s as much a power play as the US trying to take over, but it does help small nations with projects they cannot afford otherwise. I have family in another Caribbean island and if there is storm damage that destroys a bridge or road, China and recently India are generally open to helping via foreign investment.

It does beg the question of whether small nations are truly sovereign, or if this is just the modern day colonialism without calling it that. However, I’ll say that my family vastly prefers the power grab from India or China that leaves them with something they need compared to the power grabs from the US which basically just bill them for being poor.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 22 Mar 13:03 next collapse

Small nations are going to need help from larger, friendly nations, that’s just reality. It doesn’t make them Colonies until they lose their ability to make their own choices.

NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca on 22 Mar 13:12 collapse

But this begs the question of what exactly makes an independent nation. Can you truly make your own choices when everything you do will be scrutinized by the hegemons who dictate how much aid you deserve to receive? Can you ever prosper when international currency favours specific countries and tiny nations can’t trade on the world stage without the big countries taking their cut?

Today, large powers don’t conquer countries in name. Rather, they conquer them via economic force and allow them to stay “independent” in name only.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 22 Mar 13:22 collapse

Even a massive nation like America needs allies, so a small one is going to need them even more.

Sure, there is always the chance that someone bigger will take over in some way, but what else is a small country going to do? That’s just life. They can’t get along alone, so they have to seek out alliances of many kinds - political, military, trade, educational, etc. You just have to choose your partners carefully, and hope they don’t undergo a major political shift, and suddenly become predatory.

Unfortunately, that’s exactly what’s happened with America.

CanadaPlus@futurology.today on 22 Mar 14:14 collapse

Colonialism was a whole other thing, though, it wasn’t just a lack of sovereignty. There was forceful extraction of wealth going on, which is why India went from one of the richest places on Earth to a very poor nation over the period of British rule. There’s “neocolonialism” where rich nations get an unfair deal in more indirect ways, but the scale is just dramatically smaller, and at the Western end amounts to shaving off cents.

The thing with Chinese investments is they are happy to front the money sometimes, but eventually they call in their debt. Places in Africa are finding out about this the hard way right now. I also question if powering all of Cuba is really something even they could do in a span of weeks.

ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 19:05 collapse

Places in Africa are finding out about this the hard way right now.

For the most part what’s happened is that China is not longer funding new and more Africa infrastructure. A lot of this is due to the infrastructure having now been built, and the economic benefits from said infrastructure being used to pay the loans back. As intended.

I also question if powering all of Cuba is really something even they could do in a span of weeks.

They utilize I think 20% solar currently, but the problem is also storage for nighttime power consumption. Even if they could generate 100% during the day they also need the infrastructure to store or generate for nighttime.

merc@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 18:41 collapse

Cuba is still using cars from the 1950s because of the American trade embargo. Under ideal conditions a transition to pure electric / solar energy would take a decade. With an American embargo in place it would take decades and probably never finish.

caboose2006@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 02:30 next collapse

Good

CanadaPlus@futurology.today on 22 Mar 03:23 next collapse

I’m surprised they still maintain an embassy.

Zatore@lemmy.zip on 22 Mar 03:53 next collapse

It makes sense that if you have an embassy in a country, then blockade that country, your embassy would be effected by that. Maybe think about your actions beforehand

richardwallass@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 13:46 collapse

100% right. Let them manage the shit they created