Head of UN agency for Palestinians defies Israeli calls to quit (archive.md)
from Deceptichum@kbin.social to world@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 04:15
https://kbin.social/m/world@lemmy.world/t/826258

The intelligence assessment, which has been seen by the FT, provides no evidence for the claims, which it says are based on smartphone intercepts and captured identity cards.

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Rapidcreek@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 04:35 next collapse

February 3rd, so before today’s events

Deceptichum@kbin.social on 11 Feb 2024 04:37 collapse

Before they found an Hamas branded electrical storage tunnel?

Zero evidence before, still zero evidence now.

Rapidcreek@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 04:42 collapse

The media were given a tour

Deceptichum@kbin.social on 11 Feb 2024 04:47 next collapse

From tour they gave at Al-Shifa "HQ tunnel" that never turned up anything substantial

CNN analysis: Video suggests IDF might have rearranged weaponry at Al-Shifa prior to news crew visits

From the tour they gave at the graveyard

Israel claims a tunnel ran through this Gaza cemetery it destroyed. A visit to the site raised more questions than answers

But this tour is super duper legit!

Rapidcreek@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 05:10 collapse

Point is the media hasnt seen it before this was written.

Deceptichum@kbin.social on 11 Feb 2024 05:16 collapse

Point is the media has seen the last two times Israel fabricated evidence to present to the media.

Point is the original claim against the UNWRA was based on ZERO evidence as now verified by 3 independent media sources on all sides of the political spectrum.

Rapidcreek@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 05:18 next collapse

OK

JustZ@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 16:06 collapse

You’re lying. IDF gave the intelligence to the US and briefed multiple agencies and Congress.

girlfreddy@lemmy.ca on 11 Feb 2024 17:16 collapse

It has been proven the IDF lies. So in this context you’re the one lying.

JustZ@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 17:23 collapse

That’s the logic of like a five year old.

Keeping intelligence classified is not the same as lying. You think the IDF gave their Intel to America and what, tricked the FBI, tricked the CIA, and tricked the Sec State, tricked the DNI, and tricked the foreign affairs committee, using forged evidence, but they didn’t trick you. You know the actual truth?

You realize that sounds insane right?

wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 04:47 collapse

The media were given a curated tour of the things the IDF want the outside world to believe.

FTFY

Rapidcreek@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 05:02 collapse

I think that’s something for the media to figure out.

eskimofry@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 07:42 collapse

They already figured you and other Israel apologists spout bulkshit

Rapidcreek@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 11:28 collapse

Is this sup0osed to cut me to the core?

eskimofry@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 11:28 collapse

You’re a heartless POS so it probably won’t.

Rapidcreek@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 11:30 collapse

Well thanks. I see you met my former wife.

eskimofry@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 11:36 collapse

Listen man. There’s no way that anybody can justify what Israel is doing in Gaza, regardless of the Oct 7 attacks. I am just baffled that people are eating up IDF propaganda. That people support hamas is a nice strawman created to justify carpet bombing the strip.

It’s quite telling when UN didn’t verify the evidence from IDF BEFORE sacking UNRWA members and suspending funding.

Every criticism of Israel is met with “Antisemitism!” as if bombing Gaza is a jewish tradition.

Rapidcreek@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 11:47 collapse

Listen man. There is no way you can justify terrorism on civilians as a legitimate form of resistance against oppression.

Further, just because someone doesn’t think like you do doesn’t mean that you’re their enemy or even that they’re wrong. So there no reason to get all squared up when ther is something you disagree with.

I’ve yet to criticize you as you have me, but I could start if you like.

eskimofry@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 12:27 collapse

I am not justifying terrorism. I literally argued that those who say so are deliberately conflating what Israel is doing RIGHT NOW vs. What happened on oct 7.

It’s fine if you don’t think like me but don’t lie about stuff I said in the comments.

You have already criticized me by saying I am justify terrorism. I am finding it difficult to suspend my disbelief that you are arguing in good faith.

Deceptichum@kbin.social on 11 Feb 2024 04:36 next collapse

This marks 3 separate news sources all saying there is no evidence. Sources MBFC claims range from left to right, all sides agree.

JustZ@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 16:05 collapse

They aren’t saying there is no evidence, because they would be patently false. They are saying the claims are “unproven.”

The US Sec State said the classified intelligence provided to the US was “highly credible” and the house and the house vice chair of foreign affairs said it was “irrefutable.”

It included phone meta data, location data, texts, and social media posts and messages.

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org on 11 Feb 2024 04:45 collapse

Israel lies constantly. Fuck Israel.

sirboozebum@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 07:56 collapse

This claim has a strong WMD vibe to it.