Trump’s victory adds record $64bn to wealth of richest top 10 (www.theguardian.com)
from HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 14:28
https://sh.itjust.works/post/27737908

The wealth of the 10 richest people in the world – a list dominated by US tech billionaires – increased by a record amount after Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election, according to a widely cited index.

The Bloomberg Billionaires Index estimated that the world’s 10 wealthiest people gained nearly $64bn (about £49.5bn) on Wednesday, the largest daily increase since the index began in 2012.

Elon Musk, the world’s richest person, registered the largest increase with a $26.5bn addition to his fortune, which now stands at $290bn. The prominent backer of Trump’s campaign, benefited from a surge in the share price of Tesla, the electric carmaker where he is chief executive and in which he owns a 13% stake.

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YoYoMa@lemmy.today on 07 Nov 2024 14:45 next collapse

Don’t worry. It will trickle down any day now.

HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works on 07 Nov 2024 14:58 collapse

Like piss, right?

Right?

thefartographer@lemm.ee on 07 Nov 2024 15:15 next collapse

Piss trickling down on us would be an improvement

TexasDrunk@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 19:14 collapse

I guess it’s slightly better than the old “Horse and Sparrow” name which implies “Eat shit and like it”.

Zorque@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 16:12 next collapse

That’s where that comes from, yes.

dubyakay@lemmy.ca on 07 Nov 2024 18:21 collapse

Like being on level 250 of the Platform.

Mac@mander.xyz on 08 Nov 2024 02:10 collapse

I was about to tell you about this movie called El Hoyo that was similar to your comment and then I realized we’re talking about the same thing I just watched it in Spanish. lol

FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io on 07 Nov 2024 15:03 next collapse

Must be nice...

Nyciferi@kbin.melroy.org on 07 Nov 2024 15:04 next collapse

Because of course it fucking did.

blattrules@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 15:05 next collapse

$64bn so far.

Asafum@feddit.nl on 07 Nov 2024 15:11 next collapse

Good, these poor poor billionaires need more. I mean it’s a goddamn travesty they aren’t trillionares!

Geez people how fucking greedy do you need to be to accept a paycheck from these people when working for them? Can’t you just be charitable for once and help them become decillionares?

I swear we’re so greedy.

SkyNTP@lemmy.ml on 07 Nov 2024 16:32 collapse

This is what the American people voted for. They voted to give their money away to people who don’t need it.

We’ve been warning people of this for more than 8 years now, trying to soften the blow. At some point we gotta realize that protecting these people might not actually be helping, it might just be enabling the grift by providing convenient cover.

Maybe we ought to just step aside and let these voters suffer the full consequences of their actions. Democrats need to learn that unlike them, many people only learn about consequences by experiencing them.

Sure, many others who voted against will suffer the consequences too. What are we going to do about it? This is how democracy is designed to work.

HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com on 07 Nov 2024 17:32 next collapse

Yup. We all vote on the meal we will eat and lots of folk don't like the week old pumpernickel so won't vote for it and for some reason lots of folks like to vote for the dogshit with ground glass mixed into it because they think its funny to watch other people eat it.

Asafum@feddit.nl on 07 Nov 2024 17:38 collapse

for some reason lots of folks like to vote for the dogshit with ground glass mixed into it because they think its funny to watch other people eat it.

The majority of the political videos showing up on my YouTube feed after the election was just right wingers laughing at “the left.”

Their whole identity is hating others.

fluxion@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 20:57 collapse

Interesting they all of a sudden have absolutely zero concerns that our “deep state” will roll in any second now to undo the election

Asafum@feddit.nl on 07 Nov 2024 21:35 collapse

Trump on election night: “MASSIVE FRAUD IN PENNSYLVANIA, POLICE INCOMING!”

He wins big: “teehee, what fraud? I never said that.”

SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 18:34 collapse

Trump is unaccountable, that’s apparently his identity. It doesn’t matter if he did say or didn’t say anything.

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today on 08 Nov 2024 17:12 next collapse

Maybe we ought to just step aside and let these voters suffer the full consequences of their actions.

If we could do this without also suffering the full consequences of their actions I’d be all for it.

But at this point, in a hypothetical dystopian future, those voters would be reduced to scavenging in the slums, every public station owned by the GOP, not a Democrat in sight… and they’d still be able to get away with “blaming the liberals” for everything they directly caused right before everyone’s eyes.

I’ve been aghast reading all these comments on like, Nextdoor, of people shaking their heads saying “The left is always the party of divisiveness and violence.”

They’ll believe anything at this point. They literally can’t seem to comprehend the consequences of their votes.

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today on 08 Nov 2024 17:13 collapse

Maybe we ought to just step aside and let these voters suffer the full consequences of their actions.

If we could do this without also suffering the full consequences of their actions I’d be all for it.

But at this point, in a hypothetical dystopian future, those voters would be reduced to scavenging in the slums, every public station owned by the GOP, not a Democrat in sight… and they’d still be able to get away with “blaming the liberals” for everything they directly caused right before everyone’s eyes.

I’ve been aghast reading all these comments on like, Nextdoor, of people shaking their heads saying “The left is always the party of divisiveness and violence.”

They’ll believe anything at this point. They literally can’t seem to comprehend the consequences of their votes.

Sanctus@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 15:23 next collapse

We’re just being kicked while we’re already down. The idiots who voted for him don’t realize they’re in the ground with us.

lurch@sh.itjust.works on 07 Nov 2024 15:22 next collapse

On the stock markets (worldwide) it felt like someone held back the whole time and then started investing large sums.

I also immediatelty scrapped all my plans about buying US stock. Everything has to be reevaluated 😕

Maybe I’ll have to reconsider my Taiwan investments, too.

assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works on 07 Nov 2024 15:40 collapse

Berkshire Hathaway had built up $300B in cash reserves - maybe Warren decided it was time to buy?

Not_mikey@slrpnk.net on 07 Nov 2024 21:36 collapse

Makes sense. You’d want to hold back on buying until the market becomes clearer.

cygnus@lemmy.ca on 07 Nov 2024 15:23 next collapse

Elon looks like one of the pointing soyjaks in that pic.

assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works on 07 Nov 2024 15:39 next collapse

Guy making $8/hr: the economy is better now

maplebar@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 17:47 next collapse

Any day now eggs will go back to costing what they did in 1992…

nolannice@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 21:25 next collapse

I agree with this take. It’s like people have the grocery prices from when they first started living on their own seared into their brains.

overload@sopuli.xyz on 07 Nov 2024 23:58 collapse

Don’t call me out like that…

affiliate@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 22:32 collapse

what was that? like $4?

winterayars@sh.itjust.works on 08 Nov 2024 20:35 collapse

$0.80, something like that.

where_am_i@sh.itjust.works on 08 Nov 2024 12:55 collapse

Dems for decades failed to properly address social inequality, while proudly parading their politically correct talk about “communities”, “affirmative action” etc. This is a feel-good talk for their white middle-class demographics, while actual people in actual “communities” felt like animals in a zoo with a bunch of aliens around them figuring out what’s the best name to call them. At the same time no meaningful change ever happened.

Trump won Latino votes in Miami. Just think about how much distrust the other side must have built.

Stop blaming the voters. Look into the mirror and ask yourself how could this have happened.

assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works on 08 Nov 2024 14:14 collapse

What’s really funny about Trump winning Latino votes in Florida is that when surveyed, they went Trump for “the economy”. So… my comment stands.

But yes as a Canadian, the results of the US election and the performance of the Democratic party are things I’ll personally need to “look in the mirror” about.

Alternatively, I can appreciate how dumb American voters are, as 70 million of them vote to actively make their lives much worse. <3

where_am_i@sh.itjust.works on 09 Nov 2024 19:22 collapse

Just wait for the next elections to hit your country with a right-wing populism like a truck.

It’s the same shit all over the developed world. Looking down on people who are upset with the current system and the democracy itself.

sirico@feddit.uk on 07 Nov 2024 15:50 next collapse

It was a mad jump in the markets and it still holding

[deleted] on 07 Nov 2024 16:14 next collapse
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Varyk@sh.itjust.works on 07 Nov 2024 16:27 next collapse

oh right. goodbye, biden’s billionaire tax.

notannpc@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 18:19 next collapse

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finitebanjo@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 00:14 next collapse

Thats the problem with Anarchy is they have resources and you don’t so in open warfare they win every time.

You could try to form a large organization pooling resources for a specialized fighting force but…

Oh look, half of the USA just voted alongside the Billionaires. Looks like we’re outnumbered.

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 09 Nov 2024 02:49 collapse

Meh it only takes one person pulling a trigger to end a billionaire’s life. Not that I am advocating that, but there is no real way to protect themselves from the masses unless they go hide in a bunker.

finitebanjo@lemmy.world on 09 Nov 2024 03:01 collapse

We’re at 5 and counting potential Donald Trump assassins thwarted so far. Thats at least 500% over estimate, yikes.

Elon Musk probably isn’t that much easier of a target, I’m sure he pays good money to be guarded, but maybe.

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 09 Nov 2024 03:02 collapse

One kid with no help or formal training almost blew his head off. They are way more vulnerable than you can imagine.

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 01:32 next collapse

600,000 people diagnosed with terminal cancer each year in the US. 800 billionaires. Just saying, they will likely die before they even get sentenced. And it’s entirely likely the billionaires own or supported companies that caused that cancer in the first place, or supported medical systems that didn’t allow people to properly be screened or treated for cancer.

It’s like if Walter White wanted to help others

winterayars@sh.itjust.works on 08 Nov 2024 20:33 collapse

Akumetsu.

damnedfurry@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 01:57 collapse

Total net worth of top 10 richest is ~$1.6 trillion: ceoworld.biz/…/richest-people-in-the-united-state…

That makes a net worth increase of $64 billion an increase of ~4%…which is the same amount the S&P 500 is up over the past few days.

“Stock market surges following Trump’s victory and billionares’ stocks go up the same amount as everyone else’s” just doesn’t make as good a headline, huh?

This is a big pile of nothing, nice job taking the clickbait and spreading it. The outrage farmers thank you.

notannpc@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 02:57 collapse

The cool thing is, my statement still works no matter how much or how little their net worth increases. Billionaires should not exist. The world would be better without them.

damnedfurry@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 18:03 collapse

Billionaires should not exist.

You’re going to have to come to grips with the fact that there is always going to be someone with the most wealth. And in an economy that is constantly creating new wealth, the peak will also be constantly growing.

This is an incredibly naive and ignorant sentiment.

notannpc@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 19:40 collapse

If you truly believe that it is naive or ignorant to have a problem with any individual hoarding so much wealth that they could solve just about any problem where money is the limitation while still living like a king and having a fortune to pass down to their children, then I don’t think we can have a meaningful conversation.

damnedfurry@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 22:00 collapse

If you truly believe that it is naive or ignorant to have a problem with any individual hoarding

Well, here’s an example of the ignorance I was referring to: no billionaire is “hoarding” anything. Their net worth comes from the value of their investments, investments into businesses that function within the economy. And investing into a business, and in turn owning a piece of it, is absolutely not “hoarding” that piece. To define it that way would be to define that owning anything equals “hoarding” it.

Ownership and hoarding are not the same thing. The fact that I have something you don’t doesn’t mean I’m “hoarding” it. That is a ridiculous notion.

so much wealth that they could solve just about any problem where money is the limitation

You have zero perspective on just how costly those problems are, nor the fact that there is almost no major problem that an injection of funds can fix all by itself.

The US government spends more each and every year than the net worth of every US billionaire combined. Over $1 trillion (which is ONE THOUSAND TIMES the amount of wealth that ‘qualifies’ someone as a billionaire) was spent last year on welfare programs alone.

It’s just not as much as you think it is, in the grand scheme of things.

I don’t think we can have a meaningful conversation.

Until you become more familiar with the facts of the matter, I definitely agree.

Damage@feddit.it on 07 Nov 2024 18:47 next collapse

Keep pulling and the rope is gonna break, sooner or later

lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 00:30 next collapse

Thank goodness, they were having such a rough time of it

nucleative@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 01:17 next collapse

So Musk’s investment in election interference of what, a million bucks a day? towards bribing people to vote now looks like an utter pittance relative to what he made back in just one day.

Of course these guys know that investing in elections has a good ROI.

tb_@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 09:08 collapse

For added perspective: spending a million as a billionaire is the same as spending $1 when you have $1000 in your bank account.

It is utterly meaningless.

nucleative@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 09:19 collapse

Especially if you did it only 45 times or so at $45 invested and got $26,500 back a day after the election

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 01:25 next collapse

$ 214 per person

JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 08:14 next collapse

Trickle down aaaaanny day now …

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today on 08 Nov 2024 16:48 collapse

Surely, now everyone will be hiring for all kinds of jobs and competing fiercely for who pays the best and offers the sweetest benefits, across all industries… Right? :D

/s

:(

uncertainty@lemmy.nz on 08 Nov 2024 10:58 next collapse

I don’t see in the article what percentage of this increased ‘value’ was actually spent on stocks. It seems such a house of cards to say the unrealised value of retained holdings is worth anything like the figure you get if applying the most recent trade’s value to all existing shares. A value beyond a percentage of the company’s assets and projected yield makes for a pretty risky game of hot potato for anyone buying in at the end and the potential for ridiculously overblown paper losses for anyone who got in at the start of the pyramid scheme with knock-on effects that propagate out to the real economy through the contagion of doomsaying. Bonds are a far more transparent way of raising funds and incentivise productive endeavours with good fundamentals as the company needs to pay from profits rather than offloading rewards to the system of finding another sucker (which can happen with bonds as well if sold before maturity in the belief that the issuer will be unable to fulfill their promise).

selokichtli@lemmy.ml on 08 Nov 2024 13:55 next collapse

And this is only to begin with.

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today on 08 Nov 2024 17:17 next collapse

It seemed really obvious, like, I had this thought before the election was called that I should start grabbing some stonks because the uncertainty dipped everything for a minute.

But I don’t have money for stocks right now, I’m simply not in the position. (Okay I own like one, for my favorite (not starbucks) coffee chain lol)

And then everything jumps massively after his “win”, because all the corpos are probably anticipating massive deregulation.

I probably would’ve been gutted on short term gains fees anyway lol.

That’s how it works though isn’t it? The secret is to already have a bunch of money and stock and general capital…then when it dips, it’s not so bad, and when it surges, you win such a payout!

How ingeniously simple! /s

pineapplelover@lemm.ee on 08 Nov 2024 18:47 collapse

I’m waiting for it to trickle

tatterdemalion@programming.dev on 08 Nov 2024 20:09 next collapse

What are you talking about? We’ve been getting trickled on for years now. Oh wait that’s piss.

pineapplelover@lemm.ee on 08 Nov 2024 20:22 collapse

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shaserlark@sh.itjust.works on 08 Nov 2024 20:46 collapse

Trickle on me daddy