US president says he's considering pulling U.S. out of 'paper tiger' NATO (www.cnbc.com)
from stumu415@lemmy.zip to world@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 00:33
https://lemmy.zip/post/61821033

“I was never swayed by NATO. I always knew they were a paper tiger, and Putin knows that too, by the way,” he said, in comments published Wednesday.

How’s that three day ‘special operation’ going? You should ask him the next time you call him. In his published comments on Wednesday, Trump again rebuked the U.K., suggesting that the country’s Royal Navy was inadequate.

" You don’t even have a navy. You’re too old and had aircraft carriers that didn’t work," he said.

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zeppo@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 00:36 next collapse

My conservative neighbor said last week “when did he say he wanted us to leave NATO? He just wants them to pay their fair share!!”

adespoton@lemmy.ca on 02 Apr 01:02 next collapse

The Republican national sport appears to be goalpost moving.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 02 Apr 06:06 next collapse

The real reason mainstream media is so unwilling to condemn rightwing nonsense is that it'd break modern physics: Rightwing goalposts constitute a perpetual motion machine. It's a global conspiracy by Big Thermodynamics.

prex@aussie.zone on 02 Apr 10:19 collapse

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Sorry I couldn’t find an NFL one.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 02 Apr 13:10 collapse

Then when he actually does leave NATO and your neighbor gets the updated talking points: “it’s good that he left NATO”

zeppo@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 17:54 collapse

I believe he already thinks that, something like “we don’t need them“. What I have asked him is who he thinks would benefit from the US leaving NATO. The US? No. Europe? No. Russia, China? Yes. Iran? Yes. So why would we be doing that?

kreskin@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 00:59 next collapse

We knew Trump would eff up the US’s economy, government, culture, and alliances. I think maybe we collectively underestimated how he and his zionist paymasters would screw up the entire world.

Still 35 of 48 months in his term left to go too, assuming he steps down peacefully at the end of his term, which he says he wont.

cecilkorik@lemmy.ca on 02 Apr 01:05 collapse

When someone tells you who they are, believe them. Trump has told us who he is, very clearly and in no uncertain terms, and we’d better believe him. If the midterms actually go the way people are expecting them to go, I’ll eat a MAGA hat (while celebrating the democratic victory) but sadly, I think people are going to be disappointed/enraged.

TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 02 Apr 01:19 next collapse

I can’t believe someone taught him how to use the phrase “paper tiger”.

Zorque@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 05:00 collapse

Did they? Or did he just hear it a few times and thought it sounded like something he should say?

k0e3@lemmy.ca on 02 Apr 08:22 collapse

He’s basically an LLM that’s running on a SoundBlaster card.

Tolc@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 04:08 next collapse

based

jagermo@feddit.org on 02 Apr 05:23 next collapse

He won’t. The US will loose access to all its military bases in Nato countries, including things like Rammstein as well as other military bases.

fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk on 02 Apr 08:00 next collapse

Will they lose access to other German Metal bands, or just specifically Rammstein (wiki link)?

jagermo@feddit.org on 02 Apr 09:07 next collapse

Both, if I have anything to say!

hakunawazo@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 11:06 collapse

DU

DU HAST

DU HAST RAMSTEIN AIR BASE FALSCH GESCHRIEBEN

toad@sh.itjust.works on 02 Apr 11:46 next collapse

Good. Kick out the yanks

rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works on 02 Apr 15:31 collapse

He won’t.

He can’t. The US entered NATO through an act of Congress; Congress has to decide if the US leaves.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 02 Apr 06:04 next collapse

Fucking please do.

webp@mander.xyz on 02 Apr 08:18 next collapse

US president says he’s considering pulling ‘paper tiger’ U.S. out of NATO

Rule of projection.

melsaskca@lemmy.ca on 02 Apr 12:01 next collapse

Someone told him what ‘paper tiger’ means, or he watched that old Alan Alda movie, 'The Paper Lion" and got it all screwed up in the translation.

Laser@feddit.org on 02 Apr 12:11 next collapse

If Putin knows NATO is a paper tiger, why is he complaining about countries joining it? Why does he complain about NATO member countries on Russia’s borders? Surely a paper tiger isn’t detrimental to his interests? Why did they claim Russia is fighting NATO in Ukraine?

Total disconnect from reality

Bazell@lemmy.zip on 02 Apr 12:28 collapse

These are childish provocations. NATO is not obligated to participate in a war started by one of its members without an agreement from the others. This only works if one of their members was attacked first.

Laser@feddit.org on 02 Apr 12:38 collapse

I totally know how NATO works (am former soldier from a NATO country), I know Mario is a defensive treaty and even if you’re a member it doesn’t mean other member nations have to cooperate with you outside of NATO related activities. So yes no NATO members need to join, and no NATO member has to support the US (even if just by allowing to use the air space) outside of NATO missions it exercises.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 02 Apr 13:09 next collapse

I know Mario is a defensive treaty

Wahooooo!

Laser@feddit.org on 02 Apr 13:39 collapse

That swiping keyboard typo happens way more often to me than it doesn’t

Bazell@lemmy.zip on 02 Apr 13:23 collapse

I haven’t said that anyone should support the USA… I only stated that orange guy wants something that isn’t supposed to be.

Bazell@lemmy.zip on 02 Apr 12:31 next collapse

Assuming how much conflicts the USA participates in last time, it will be only an improvement to the overall stability and peace of the whole alliance.

Alandrus_Sun@ttrpg.network on 02 Apr 14:04 next collapse

If it’s a “paper tiger”, why have we fought so hard to keep Ukraine from obtaining membership? 🤔

CocaineShrimp@sh.itjust.works on 02 Apr 15:02 next collapse

Isn’t “paper tiger” a phrase in Chinese? I don’t watch a lot of trump, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard him use that phrase…

rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works on 02 Apr 15:29 collapse

It’s a calque of Chinese. It has come to be used so often because of 1) its obvious meaning and 2) the increase in global wars.

silverneedle@lemmy.ca on 02 Apr 18:21 next collapse

It’s clear that it’s in the interest of the United States to do preemptive damage control in light of tensions between RUS and EU that could escalate into a war. The Americans simply don’t want to be dragged into anything, least of which conflicts they aggravated. Same logic as privatising profits and socialising losses.

Jiral@lemmy.org on 02 Apr 18:43 collapse

What difference does it make? Does anyone believe the US as it stands nowadays would honour Article 5, when for once not triggered by the US itself?