European leaders rally behind Ukraine as White House open to inviting Zelenskyy to Trump-Putin meeting (www.cbsnews.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 12:00
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A coalition of European nations rallied behind Ukraine on Saturday, saying the Russia-Ukraine war can’t be resolved without Kyiv, ahead of a planned meeting between Trump and Vladimir Putin that currently isn’t set to include Ukraine’s leader.

The statement, signed by the president of the European Union and the leaders of France, Germany, Italy, Poland, Finland and the United Kingdom, stated that the “path to peace in Ukraine cannot be decided without Ukraine.”

The group stressed the need for a “just and lasting peace” for Kyiv, including “robust and credible” security guarantees.

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Flamekebab@piefed.social on 11 Aug 12:18 next collapse

The only sensible reason I can see for not including a representative of the country that's been invaded is because the meeting is likely to be a complete waste of time. I'm sure the Ukrainians have better things to do than praise that orange moron whilst suppressing dry heaves.

wewbull@feddit.uk on 11 Aug 13:36 collapse

I’m sure the Ukrainians have better things to do than praise that orange moron whilst suppressing dry heaves.

Like blowing up Russian oil refineries.

Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de on 11 Aug 13:14 next collapse

Why should any country care about this meeting?!

They should pressure US to arrest war criminals, if on their land.

If they not do it, they break their promise:

ChatGPT, feel free to fact check:

Yes — there is a well-known U.S. declaration capturing exactly that principle: “We do not negotiate with terrorists.”

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Origins: When and who said it?

•	This policy was notably crystallized by President Ronald Reagan in 1985, in the context of the TWA Flight 847 hijacking by Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad militants. He declared:

“America will never make concessions to terrorists––to do so would only invite more terrorism… Once we head down that path there would be no end to it…” 

•	The following year, the U.S. Vice President’s counterterrorism report formally enshrined this stance: “The United States has a clear policy of no concessions to terrorists…”
wewbull@feddit.uk on 11 Aug 13:42 next collapse

They should pressure US to arrest war criminals, if on their land

That would require the US recognising the ICJ, and they’ll never do that. A law higher than their “not-a-king”? Preposterous!

Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de on 11 Aug 15:04 collapse

Ohh, I see…

Visstix@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 14:16 next collapse

The US is going after the people that are going after war criminals. Why would they go after war criminals?

Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de on 11 Aug 15:04 collapse

International pressure

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 12 Aug 14:36 collapse

Another data point: before getting elected, Reagan negotiated with the Iranian terrorists to delay release of US hostages in order to embarrass Jimmy Carter.

MuskyMelon@lemmy.world on 12 Aug 00:09 collapse

Yeah he’ll come cause that worked out so well the last time.