Trump backs off as Hyundai factory ICE raid enrages Korea (www.theregister.com)
from cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com to world@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 18:16
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Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Sep 18:31 next collapse

He’s an incompetent child rapist

TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone on 16 Sep 18:42 next collapse

You don’t know that. Maybe raping children is the one thing he’s good at?

whiwake@lemmy.cafe on 16 Sep 18:50 next collapse

Well, he’s doing a great job getting away with it!

fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net on 16 Sep 19:44 next collapse

Only because we refuse to arrest rich people. He got caught red handed

SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org on 17 Sep 22:36 collapse

Recent news showed us there's another way...

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SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org on 16 Sep 20:49 next collapse

Maybe questioning his child-raping prowess is the key to make him admit it? 🤔🤔

TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone on 16 Sep 21:03 collapse

Haha, not a bad idea!

Hadriscus@jlai.lu on 16 Sep 21:59 collapse

With the cartoonish overtones US news have been taking, I wouldn’t be surprised Trump would finally be vanquished like a morning cereal villain

guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 16 Sep 22:27 next collapse

You don’t know that. Maybe he likes incompetent children. After all, smart people don’t like him.

TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone on 16 Sep 22:54 collapse

Touche! I have observed that only tragically stupid people do like him, so I guess it stands to reason that he’d be more comfortable with those kinds of people.

Jaysyn@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 17:45 collapse

Well, PedoTrump hasn’t had any consequences for raping children yet, so you may be right.

iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 23:24 collapse

oh is that those trump files I keep hearing about, the one with his dead friend Jeffrey? LoL

comador@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 18:33 next collapse

TACO

AtariDump@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 23:21 collapse

www.tiktok.com/…/7509992684627479838?lang=en

Edit: sorry it’s a Chinese spyware link

8H2k2139@lemmy.ca on 16 Sep 18:46 next collapse

That child rapist Trump needs a bullet to the neck 🥰

Arghblarg@lemmy.ca on 16 Sep 19:06 collapse

I should upvote because Drumpf has, in a very real sense, blood on his hands from his stochastic terrorism, mafioso fascist/rhetoric and policies; I should downote because political violence really doesn’t make things better; and yet evil also triumphs when good people do nothing. What to do, what to do…

Will nothing rid us all of this turbulent turd? (Note “nothing”, not ‘no one’)

mitch@piefed.mitch.science on 16 Sep 21:24 next collapse

He had blood on his ear, too

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 00:11 collapse

type Heinz 57 blood if i’m not mistaken

BassTurd@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 21:30 next collapse

Idk, I feel better with Kirk dead. Also, he can’t keep spreading his hate to millions, so that’s better too. Political violence doesn’t always makes things better, but sometimes it does, and I think a lack of Trump would be a good thing.

Soulg@ani.social on 16 Sep 22:39 next collapse

On one have it’s definitely better he’s dead, but is that worth what they’re gearing up to do?

BassTurd@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 23:23 next collapse

They’ve been hearing for something for a while and if not Kirk it would be something else. I don’t think that this will actually amount to much more than this weird nationalistic response to the death of a YouTuber.

shani66@ani.social on 17 Sep 03:52 collapse

They were already getting ready to purge their opposition and do multiple genocides, this taking point is entirely worthless.

Soulg@ani.social on 17 Sep 13:42 collapse

They were clearly waiting for an excuse first which they’ve now manufactured after his death. You cannot tell me that it hasn’t accelerated massively in the past 7 days.

You can disagree with me but don’t call it a talking point.

shani66@ani.social on 17 Sep 19:16 collapse

They were already working on taking away the rights of trans people, this is just a talking point. A weak centrist lib one at that.

DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 00:02 collapse

I don’t feel better. I’m not white and from now on I’m even more likely to get shot than before. I’m staying inside as much as possible (was already doing that before, now I feel even less wanting to go outside). I heard a US Citizen got yeeted off the streets by ICE while walking in a park. Hell nah, fuck that. I’m rather just watch tv shows in the dark silence of an empty room in my house.

I mean, I don’t mourn any deaths, but I’m also not “happy” about it. Rather just have the Bernie wins 2016 Timeline. My head hurts ever time there’s a new announcement from the dictator.

ganryuu@lemmy.ca on 17 Sep 13:24 collapse

I’m not white and from now on I’m even more likely to get shot than before.

I’d argue that with him alive and continuing to spew his hate and calls for violence, that probability would have unfortunately continued to go up. It went up by a bigger margin with his death sure, but it wouldn’t have stopped with him not being shot.

That being said, I do feel very bad for you and all those affected.

DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 14:06 collapse

I mean… a traffic accident would’ve caused less problems than a gunshot wound…

I don’t want anyone to die of a gunshot wound, too many ways for the media to spin it. Just anything else please. Falling on the pavement, choking on food, heart attack, like anything is better than getting shot. You can’t bcecome a martyr if you weren’t murdered.

Sanctus@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 16:56 collapse

Don’t worry! In 20 years while we’re still squabbling about climate change it will wipe the board clean! Then all will be steeped in squalor and helplessness!

FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca on 16 Sep 19:20 next collapse

I watched a documentary today about Amanda Knox, an American who was accused of murder in Italy in 2007, apparently Trump wanted America to boycott Italy over that

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 16 Sep 19:50 collapse

That’s half my diet, I’m not boycotting Italy. Live without pizza, meatball subs, and pasta? I don’t think so.

Peppycito@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 20:42 collapse

How many of those do you buy direct from Italy?

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 00:16 next collapse

before krasnov’s trade war, two liters of olive oil a year and while we did not buy meat direct from italy our salame guy does buy direct from italy. we probably get a sassage a month from him. also our deli gets italian mortadella too and fuck i gotta go get a sandwich there tomorrow don’t i.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 17 Sep 12:05 collapse

The canned tomatoes I use for sauce were canned and imported from Italy.

empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 16 Sep 19:30 next collapse

Another unsurprising TACO Tuesday.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 19:52 next collapse

Trump backs off

The damage is already done. He got to stuff hundreds of Korean workers in one of his torture prisons while extorting the company and the country for their release. He’s not backing off. He’s pulling his fist back for another swing. Fucking headline journalists are too “TACO” pilled to see the next blow coming.

shalafi@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 02:46 collapse

Trump didn’t personally order this raid. He told ICE they were weapons free, here’s your quota. Now that the predictable consequences are hitting, “Not like that!

leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Sep 03:38 collapse

Trump didn’t personally order this raid.

I didn’t shoot you with the gun I was brandishing in front of your face with the safety off while loudly threatening to shoot everyone around, it was an accident!”

shalafi@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 03:41 collapse

LOL, yeah! That’s exactly what happened. He wouldn’t have personally ordered it, but he the buck stops at the Oval Office.

IHeartBadCode@fedia.io on 16 Sep 20:14 next collapse

Hyundai already announced a two to three month delay on this plant after this whole thing. They aren't walking away, but this isn't an event they are forgetting.

It won't matter what President comes after this one, this whole thing is going to influence investment from South Korea for some time.

N0t_5ure@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 20:40 next collapse

If you were a foreign company considering investing a substantial amount of money to build a plant in the U.S., and then the unstable authoritarian dictator of that country pulls a stunt like this, you’re going to reconsider putting any more capital at risk.

moncharleskey@lemmy.zip on 16 Sep 22:38 next collapse

I’ve seen this plant, and it’s massive. I don’t know how close to completion they are, but billions have been spent. If they pull out they are going to take a hell of a loss. Hopefully that means they’ll work to weaken Trump and the GOP in order to help their bottom line.

davidagain@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 23:21 next collapse

Sunk cost fallacy.

Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 23:37 next collapse

I wish more people understood this

NeilBru@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 00:36 collapse

Indeed.

The actuarial calculation must be the billions more that will potentially be lost when exposing themselves to further harassment and extortion from Trump and his cronies versus the definite billions lost if they were to cancel everything now.

huquad@lemmy.ml on 17 Sep 00:13 next collapse

Its not just them too. They might be in too deep at this point, but other companies aren’t. One look and they’ll do business elsewhere.

MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca on 17 Sep 01:51 next collapse

That might mean they don’t send as many of their workers and it takes longer to finish.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 17 Sep 04:16 collapse

korea seems to suck up to the gop quite often, probably i wont hold your breath. because they build in exclusive red areas. The only change will come , if Korean citizens refuse to relocate to the USA for work.

leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Sep 03:34 next collapse

An unstable authoritarian dictator who, as way of a supposed apology, has literally told you that he’s going to do it again as soon as he’s stolen your technology, with the stated intention of putting you and your whole country out of business.

Only reasonable course of action seems to write the factory down as a loss and never set foot in the USA again.

Jaysyn@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 17:44 collapse

They apparently are however.

How stupid corporations can be.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 17 Sep 04:14 next collapse

if i were korea, i would just cut my losses and build in another country, like mexico and canada. or build it in a blue states, but foreign companies love the lack of labor protections in red states

ronl2k@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 19:24 collapse

Nah. Things will return to normal after we elect a stable president and congress.

lka1988@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 21:02 collapse

(X) Doubt

Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca on 16 Sep 20:14 next collapse

Yup they won’t be coming back and why on earth would they do anything else with them in the future.

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CptOblivius@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 23:26 next collapse

Holy $&#+ that’s horrible.

kautau@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 23:46 collapse

I’m not sure if you meant shit or fuck but I think fuck is more appropriate here

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 00:02 collapse

i think it was a worse third thing. i’m tired and bad at swearing though so i am not sure. bird?

TuffNutzes@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 00:40 collapse

“We’re acting exactly like Nazis in Nazi Germany and I just don’t understand why no one wants to do business with us!”

MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca on 17 Sep 01:50 next collapse

Also the guy from Ireland who had his subdermal piercings involuntarily cut out without anesthetic.

indomara@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 02:10 collapse

WHAT??!

bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 17 Sep 06:31 collapse

Ice also abducted all of the adults out of a minivan, leaving two small children behind, who had to be rescued from the heat by bystanders.

indomara@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 22:56 collapse

Horrible.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 02:20 next collapse

If we’re going off history, it’s bad news because fucking EVERYBODY still did business with the Nazis.

echodot@feddit.uk on 17 Sep 14:04 collapse

Yeah because the Nazis weren’t stupid enough to alienate their own customers. MAGAs are.

QuantumDuck@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 17:24 collapse

The MAGA voters were NEVER their customers. The extremely wealthy are and always have been the customer. MAGA has just been that “useful idiot” to get him in the White House. If you remember that the point is to run out all the foreign owned businesses and buy up what they leave behind for cheap, it’ll start to make more sense.

Cethin@lemmy.zip on 17 Sep 13:59 next collapse

To be fair, lots of companies wanted to do business with the Nazis. Most businesses now don’t have an issue with Trump being a fascist, but that it’s unpredictable. That’s bad for business.

fodor@lemmy.zip on 18 Sep 04:36 collapse

In the aftermath of WW2, it was decided that all those companies that worked with Hitler building bombs and guns and other military goods, they were all innocent of wrongdoing. It wasn’t their fault, they said, it’s unavoidable – that’s just how business works, they said.

Hadriscus@jlai.lu on 16 Sep 21:57 next collapse

This was such a preventable suicide, lol

Typhoon@lemmy.ca on 16 Sep 23:26 next collapse

This entire train wreck was preventable.

WanderWisley@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 23:44 collapse

Death by a thousand cuts, but we are cutting ourselves.

rayyy@piefed.social on 16 Sep 22:42 next collapse

Epstein's Taco chickens out again.

Sunshine@piefed.ca on 16 Sep 23:06 next collapse

Divest from America! Shrink their economy!

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 23:58 next collapse

Statesian here. I fully support this. Some people don’t learn unless it hurts.

prex@aussie.zone on 17 Sep 13:24 collapse

I’m sorry that you get hurt by this too.
Seriously, the rest of the world:

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Juice@midwest.social on 17 Sep 01:03 collapse

Revolutionary defeatism stock is rising

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 23:42 next collapse

Quintessential loudmouth chickenshit performs as expected

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 23:59 collapse

you took the word (specifically chickenshit, as in “hey krasnov, why you being such a chickenshit”) right out of my mouth.

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 02:36 next collapse

Fat idiot.

brucethemoose@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 02:38 next collapse

When Foreign Companies who are building extremely complex products, machines, and various other ‘things,’ come into the United States with massive Investments, I want them to bring their people of expertise for a period of time to teach and train our people how to make these very unique and complex products, as they phase out of our Country, and back into their land," the president posted on Truth Social, adding “I don’t want to frighten off or disincentivize Investment into America by outside Countries or Companies. We welcome them, we welcome their employees, and we are willing to proudly say we will learn from them.”

You know what’s missing there?

An apology.

trublu@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Sep 03:08 next collapse

Also several inappropriately capitalized letters. Trump didn’t write this.

cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Sep 03:25 next collapse

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!

JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone on 17 Sep 04:50 next collapse

Mr torgue?

JigglySackles@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 13:57 collapse

Did someone say…EXPLOSIONS!!!

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today on 17 Sep 05:11 collapse

SAD!!!1

echodot@feddit.uk on 17 Sep 12:31 next collapse

Well yeah, it stayed on topic the whole way through

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 17 Sep 12:59 collapse

He can’t write anything. The stroke rendered his right hand unusable, and he’s probably permanently loopy, more than usual. It’s “Weekend at Bernie’s: The White House Years.”

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 17 Sep 04:14 next collapse

trump, apologizing never. Like most right winger, they give a typical corporate apology, a non-apology or they deflect the attention on an percieved enemy.

D_C@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 08:30 next collapse

You know what’s missing there?

The unredacted Epstein list!

GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca on 17 Sep 14:36 next collapse

When has Trump use a word as big as disincentivize in the last 15 years? His media representative needs to up their game.

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 14:43 collapse

he did not write that.

shalafi@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 02:50 next collapse

Y’all acting like Trump personally ordered the raid and is suddenly backing up, TACO.

Trump told ICE, “You’re weapons free, you got a quota.” And they went for it. Because of course they did.

This is Trump screaming, “Not like THAT!” Which is somehow hilarious and horrifying at the same time.

Railing5132@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 03:01 next collapse

Well, the desk in the oval office used to have a simple plaque on it that said: “the buck stops here”.

JoeyHarrington@lemmy.ca on 17 Sep 03:05 next collapse

The buck still stops there because dump loves the dollar menu

shalafi@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 04:01 collapse

Mother was a narcissist, not on Trump’s level, but I’ve never known another person so eat up with NPD. Impossible to overstate that these people cannot understand personal responsibility for their actions. Their failures are always someones else’s failures. They cannot fail.

I was well into my 40s before it occurred to me, mother never once admitted fault or said she was sorry. Sure, some people act like that, sometimes, but you can tell they have a sense of guilt, a sense of wrongdoing. Sure, we’ve all know people who misdirect blame. A true narcissist cannot feel those emotions, cannot be wrong.

Telling a lie is a falsehood you know is false. Trump has never lied. He believes every word that has ever come out of his mouth. It tears my brain apart every time he’s accused of lying or bending the truth. Anyone having a hard time with the notion I just described is suffering cognitive dissonance. Have fun with that, he can’t feel it. You can because you’re sane.

Trump isn’t playing games. He isn’t a tactical or strategic genius. He’s simply a wealthy narcissist who struck political gold. He got dumb luck, like some of us do, and ran with it.

echodot@feddit.uk on 17 Sep 12:33 next collapse

The idiot leader was too stupid to provide contingencies. And the ICE goons are too stupid to understand them anyway.

SeriousMite@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 14:21 collapse

A competent leader would apologize on behalf of the United States, whether it was his fault or not.

D_C@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 08:37 next collapse

He chickened out again?
Pfft, a proper real man and leader would’ve gone down to that concentration camp and punched each one of those Koreans himself!!!

hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de on 17 Sep 13:58 collapse

And then visited their parents. Popped in for a tea. Made some small talk.

And theeen spat in their mothers face. And fuck their fathers in the ass.

echodot@feddit.uk on 17 Sep 12:30 next collapse

He really has got porridge for brains. It amazes me he can manage simultaneous walking and talking.

Why on earth would foreign companies want to invest in the US right now? He is the one that’s making it less likely, there was plenty of foreign investment in the US under previous administrations then this moron came along and ruined it all.

Paddzr@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 12:45 collapse

Trump walks? I only ever see him behind something hiding how fat he is.

buttnugget@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 20:57 collapse

The one good thing about Trump ffs

plz1@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 13:56 next collapse

TACO Don…

Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca on 17 Sep 14:35 next collapse

Canada, on the other hand, would be happy to host a Hyundai plant once again.

rekabis@lemmy.ca on 17 Sep 14:37 next collapse

At this point, I wouldn’t blame any company that immediately ceased expansions in America and started to consider moving existing production facilities to adjacent countries, like Canada.

Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 15:13 next collapse

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samus12345@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 17:13 collapse

A rare case where the AI slop is less repulsive than the actual person. Still repulsive, of course.

Gates9@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 15:52 next collapse

To any foreign entities, companies, individuals who haven’t caught on to the obvious truth: You are not safe here, your investments are not secure here, any visas, treaties, contracts are all 100% revocable despite any perception that they are legally binding. Do not come here. Despite the fact that there are good and rational people fighting to change this, the hard fact is that we are flaming out, and there is no telling what destruction and chaos is coming.

Just look at the destruction and chaos we perpetrated around the world when our society was at its height and our population had the most accommodating economic conditions in history.

stringere@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 23:08 collapse

our society was at its height and our population had the most accommodating economic conditions in history

I think that’s the thing the populace isn’t feeling yet. It hasn’t impacted their comfort enough for them personally, yet. I never understood the mindset people had that led to “first they came for…”. I no longer have that naïveté, for I am seeing it unreeling in real time.

Gates9@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 23:15 collapse

Well, yeah, the number of people even aware that this happened is probably small relative to the adult population, and the number of people aware enough to remember what you’re talking about if you asked them on the street is even smaller. Of course, there’s a lot of awful things of important magnitude happening at a faster pace than usual, so I can see how difficult it can be to keep track.

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FuckFascism@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 16:14 next collapse

Taco

Jaysyn@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 17:40 next collapse

Pretty sure this is how racists determine a suitable client race. Abuse them & see if they come back for more.

South Korea needs to tell the USA to pound sand & open those factories elsewhere.

Awkwardparticle@programming.dev on 17 Sep 21:31 next collapse

They need to start by removing the support structure from the building itself, they should not have a working facility when it is seized.

phx@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 23:38 collapse

Canada would be happy to host more production facilities, and treat them a hell of a lot better than the US too

DarkFuture@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:26 next collapse

Lowest IQ president in U.S. history.

Also a literal traitor to our nation, its Constitution, and democracy in general.

b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 17 Sep 20:56 collapse

Don’t forget degenerate pedophile and co-conspirator of Jeffrey Epstein.

Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 22:47 next collapse

Its too late, damage is already done you dumbass

LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 01:13 collapse

Honest question: why were highly skilled Korean engineers working “illegally” in USA to begin with? Why didn’t they go through the process to get a worker’s visa or whatever?

Another honest question: why do we have a scumbag for president? Who the hell voted for him anyway?

booly@sh.itjust.works on 18 Sep 03:31 next collapse

why were highly skilled Korean engineers working “illegally” in USA to begin with?

Most of them say they had valid visas or work authorization.

The U.S. has a visa waiver program where people can come into the U.S. without a visa, and have certain rights similar to visa holders. Many of the South Korean workers have taken the position that the visas they had that allowed them to work for 6 months, or the visa waivers they had entitled them to do temporary work for less than 90 days, and that they were within those time windows.

The lawsuits being filed also allege that immigration officials acknowledged that many of the workers did have legal rights to work, but that they were deported anyway.

So no, I don’t think it’s been shown that the workers did anything illegal. It really sounds like ICE fucked up by following a random tip a little too credulously.

fodor@lemmy.zip on 18 Sep 04:33 collapse

You have accidentally blamed the victims. It is common around the world for people to work abroad, and we almost always do what our bosses tell us. Our bosses, of course, understand the laws of the places where we’ll be working, and they tell us what papers to fill out for immigration and visa purposes. Every multinational company has several people in HR who are experts on this topic.

So the real question to ask is, “Did their employers try to circumvent the law?” … I think probably the answer is no, but if you think the answer is yes, then you should immediately ask, “Why didn’t ICE arrest the employers, then?”

Also, immigration violations are almost never illegal. They’re not crimes; they are civil infractions. Like parking tickets.