ThePantser@sh.itjust.works
on 28 Oct 18:41
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What cease fire?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
on 28 Oct 19:20
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They declared a cease fire, so now Europe and the Arab world can go back to business as usual.
Are you saying the Israelis did something to violate the peace? We’ll form a committee to conduct a survey to discuss a vote about beginning an investigation.
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca
on 28 Oct 18:44
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We’re going to need one of those 500,000,000fps high speed cameras to record the duration of the ceasefire.
Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 28 Oct 18:57
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Ceasefire for thee, not for me.
expatriado@lemmy.world
on 28 Oct 19:03
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dude has an addiction and needs his fix
lowleekun@lemmy.funami.tech
on 28 Oct 19:09
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No guys but Israel are the gooood guys!? They need to throw bombs to keep their (not at all corrupt and fascist ) leadership in office and the war economy going. But they promise to only bomb the “terrorists” (every Arab is one sadly). Pretty plllsss.
I’m starting to understand the art of the deal now. You see, it’s to get fucked over so many times on purpose so that you appear like you can’t negotiate shit. Then one day you turn the tables and catch everyone off-guard, scoring a major win. I have a feeling trump is just waiting for that golden opportunity. Truly a master at the craft, truly.
What do you mean? Ignore the kayfabe anger / hostility with Netanyahu for a minute, and this might be the best deal trumps ever negotiated by his standards ( there’s always a winner and a loser in a negotiation- and Netanyahu os a friend, hamas is an enemy)
He got his ally (not the israel- us alliance, the trump- Netanyahu one) exactly what he wanted- all the living hostages, and many of the dead ones, which was one of the main Israeli complaints about the war.
He gave both sides a tough guy act, hamas bought that he was really going to be tough on israel, and gave up their main leverage in exchange for prisoners israel doesnt really care about, and didnt get a peace deal, just a ceasefire, and the begining of negotiations- and they didnt even get a good starting point for those.
The baseline is basicaly gaza surrendering all weapons, disolving hamas, and getting an israeli ally-controlled government/ reconstruction. (All that reconstruction money is going to get eaten up in graft by trump allies) And If they refuse, trump drops the tough on Netanyahu act, blames everything on hamas for refusing to negotiate, peace talks and ceasefire over, and the killing starts again in earnest, now with no fear of hitting Israeli hostages.
Tldr, the anger with bibi was fake- and hamas bought it. They did the half of the deal (hostage swap) without getting any guarantee in return, and now trump will push them until he has ‘no choice’ but to go back to full throated backing of israel’s total war.
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What cease fire?
They declared a cease fire, so now Europe and the Arab world can go back to business as usual.
Are you saying the Israelis did something to violate the peace? We’ll form a committee to conduct a survey to discuss a vote about beginning an investigation.
Sounds good. Schedule it for 2026!
You see that cease fire was for the Oct 2023 attack. This is a fresh conflict right out of the oven.
Is the ceasefire gone? I looked away for like a minute.
It never existed
We’re going to need one of those 500,000,000fps high speed cameras to record the duration of the ceasefire.
Ceasefire for thee, not for me.
dude has an addiction and needs his fix
No guys but Israel are the gooood guys!? They need to throw bombs to keep their (not at all corrupt and fascist ) leadership in office and the war economy going. But they promise to only bomb the “terrorists” (every Arab is one sadly). Pretty plllsss.
It’s scary, they gave him an out to stop being such a war monger and he took offense and said “fuck you im the warriest monger”
I’m starting to understand the art of the deal now. You see, it’s to get fucked over so many times on purpose so that you appear like you can’t negotiate shit. Then one day you turn the tables and catch everyone off-guard, scoring a major win. I have a feeling trump is just waiting for that golden opportunity. Truly a master at the craft, truly.
What do you mean? Ignore the kayfabe anger / hostility with Netanyahu for a minute, and this might be the best deal trumps ever negotiated by his standards ( there’s always a winner and a loser in a negotiation- and Netanyahu os a friend, hamas is an enemy)
He got his ally (not the israel- us alliance, the trump- Netanyahu one) exactly what he wanted- all the living hostages, and many of the dead ones, which was one of the main Israeli complaints about the war.
He gave both sides a tough guy act, hamas bought that he was really going to be tough on israel, and gave up their main leverage in exchange for prisoners israel doesnt really care about, and didnt get a peace deal, just a ceasefire, and the begining of negotiations- and they didnt even get a good starting point for those.
The baseline is basicaly gaza surrendering all weapons, disolving hamas, and getting an israeli ally-controlled government/ reconstruction. (All that reconstruction money is going to get eaten up in graft by trump allies) And If they refuse, trump drops the tough on Netanyahu act, blames everything on hamas for refusing to negotiate, peace talks and ceasefire over, and the killing starts again in earnest, now with no fear of hitting Israeli hostages.
Tldr, the anger with bibi was fake- and hamas bought it. They did the half of the deal (hostage swap) without getting any guarantee in return, and now trump will push them until he has ‘no choice’ but to go back to full throated backing of israel’s total war.
Ladies and gentlemen, the people that experienced Holocaust.
Yep, it’s pretty ironic. That just means anybody could get sucked into ethnic cleansing bullshit, given a few decades.
They actually did not experience it near 100% of them were born afterwards.
This fuckface just can’t stay out of the news
The ceasefire was fake.
The ceasefire was a trap to lure their targets back in to the open, where they can be easily grouped and eliminated.
The move away from passive voice is refreshing, even if very late