Israel: Settler group advertises new properties in southern Lebanon
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from solo@slrpnk.net to world@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 12:19
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The Movement for Settlement in Southern Lebanon said the settlement of the area will bring ‘true and stable security to northern Israel’
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Lebanon is not in Israel. Not. Their. Land.
They are still fighting over the stories in a 4000 year old book.
I think the wealth of nations is not that old
Doesn’t even stop them for doing it in Gaza and West Bank. That piece of land, that Israel we know now, is a combination of land grab through purchasing and warfare.
That’s what happens when you resort to violence. The strong win and the weak cry about injustice. Maybe next time they’ll not bombard Israel with rockets if the price tag is too high.
Spoken like a true fascist.
There there. I was only kidding. Everybody knows violence results in the weak winning and the strong crying about it. 🙄
Wow! You’ve just changed me entire outlook on the Holocaust!
Israel would be living safely if they didn’t decide to colonize Gaza, the West bank and many other Arab land in 67
Israeli attacks on Lebanon have killed more than 1,974 people, including 127 children. At least 9,384 people wounded.
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There is also the fact that Israel has been committing genocide for over a year.
Clearly, more violence is what will fix this. /s
Be sure to let me know when an #-page report is released and/or casualty projections are large enough that the price-tag isn’t worth it. Otherwise you’re using violence to justify violence and this cycle of death continues… to whose benefit again?
If you read the first three chapters of that report, you’ll have your answer
Israel has repeatedly chosen violence over peace. They’ve even assassinated the Principal Peace Negotiator multiple times, in order to continue delaying peace negotiations
The question was rhetorical. But no, I’m not reading your clearly biased copypasta.
Now you’re calling a Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor Report a ‘biased copypasta’ and completely disregarding the entire report.
Yes, I am. Didn’t get a paragraph in when these criticisms became obvious to me before I even checked. OFC I disregard the report. It is biased af.
Ooof, I’ve never seen someone use MBFC as a source before. That’s just sad.
Not as sad as what 42k dead? Keep on defending violence with violence though. Definitely not sad.
MBFC is a terrible way to consider whether a source is credible or not. But even if you look at the MBFC for Euro-Med, is shows no failed fact checks and a bias for human rights… If you consider that kind of bias worth disregarding, what does that say? You’ve given no genuine reason to ignore the Report.
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Like I said, MBFC is not a good way to determine if a source is credible. Credibility is about facts and honest reporting, both of which are present in Euro-Med Monitor reporting. Nor do they omit context, the entire first two chapters of the report are about the context of the conflict. The MBFC page even contradicts itself by admitting the sources used by Euro-Med are also credible. Euro-Med and other Human Rights Organizations apply International Law equally to all parties. The amount of violations is obviously disproportionate when one side is committing genocide, that does not mean these organizations are ‘one-sided’ as MBFC wants to believe, they each have multiple reports condemning human rights violations by Hamas and other resistance organizations. You’re refusal to consider these reports when it comes to the human rights violations of Israel shows how one-sided your views of this conflict are.
I’ll make my own determination tyvm. And as already stated, I agree with their analysis. Find a less biased source.
How can you make your own determination if you steadfastly refuse to even consider all the facts?
That’s impossible with your ridiculous premise that bias is somehow inherently bad and also more important to consider than factual reporting.
Are Israeli sources like B’TSelem and Breaking the Silence also too biased to you? Works done by Israeli Historians such as Ilan Pappe and Avi Schlaim?
The reality of this genocide, the Apartheid, and the daily violence of the Occupation are well documented and readily available.
Just a question do you get tired of being a genocide apologist or does it just come naturally to you?
I guess you could consider Israel strong if you remember that this strength comes from the US taxpayers being swindled out of their healthcare, social support and education money, which is funneled into donations to Israel and a massive armed forces that keeps its genocide regime propped up, while US tuition prices skyrocket and schools barely have teachers and facilities in many places, certainly not to the same level as it used to be.
Meanwhile hordes of people live in tents, work 60 hours a week living paycheck to paycheck and have no medical, paternity leave or sometimes even the same number of paid time off days as the rest of the world. Even the president takes a huge crap all over protesting rail workers, who wanted some sick leave and some safety in their workplace, which sees American railways eroding in quality and safety in favor of bigger trains and less personnel operating them.
I guess genocide has a price that someone has to pay. Honestly, i wouldn’t see that necessarily as strength. More like outright exploitation of the American people, the Palestinians and now the Lebanese for an old fairly tale that some magic being told a long time ago.
Thats … awkward. By your understanding the WW2 holocaust was …fine and normal.
Thats how deep your morality goes huh. Wow. So you’re a Nazi then?
Nope, just somebody that can understand complete sentences.
OOC what’s the casualty count at? You think name calling is going to bring them back, or is it just to make you feel better for not doing anything substantial to save lives?
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Neither was the Golan Heights.
They still are not!
Not yet, but soon, they’d say.
I’ll throw in a few random thoughts there:
“The war will give us the land. The concepts of “ours” and “not ours” are peace concepts, only, and in war they lose their whole meaning” (Ben-Gurion, War Diary, Vol. 1, entry dated 6 February 1948. p.211)
So lets look at what will unfold in the next few months concerning Gazan land in the Israeli legal system, and in the future, Lebanese land. Once a peice of land is considered Israel, Non jews are forbidden by the torah from owning it, and jews arent allowed to sell or transfer it to non jews. They are permitted to lease it to nonjews for up to 50 years until a “jubilee” year, at which point all leases automatically terminate and the land is returned to its rightful owners regardless of other considerations. torah.org/…/weekly-halacha-5773-noach/ Thats for land not in a “town”. If its in a town those rules do not apply. If the land has no buildings or inhabitants (which is Gaza, now) its not a town anymore and is just “land”.
To add to this underdstanding of who owns ‘just land’, If you “find” land and improve it, with a single stepping stone even, if no one contests you after a period of 1 year, the land can be registered as yours thereafter. That is, barring any local laws which forbid such things (if say, you live in another country). But in war those laws are suspended as it is contested land. Land owners can also contest it by building an even better improvement than the interloper.
This derives from the idea that all land is actually owned by god, and Israelis are the people of god, amongst other concepts. Leviticus is chock full of land ownership rules, most of which never realy were implemented, although they are cited in disputes.
So, as we cross a year of north gaza being destroyed, religious israelis will now legally refer to all of it as unimproved land where no town sits.
As an ancillary consideration-- there are now few functioning religious sites present. This pertains to an exception about land reserved for religious purposes, and is why Palestinian graveyards were exhumed and erased, and mosques attacked. A mosque isnt a mosque if no one goes to it, and a graveyard isnt a graveyard if the bodies and markers are removed.
On the day the consideration is made the Israelis can clear out any inhabitants on it. If no one shows to the trial to contest, gaza will henceforth and forever be owned by israelis who register the land, and thus “gaza” will cease to legally exist as militarily occupied land, and will legally be considered Israel, by Israelis at least, and by people who consider these land rules to be a legitimate practice-- which surprisingly a lot of countries will do, because its customary to honor the laws of foriegn lands.
So look for that in the actions of their military in the week after the US election in November. They’ll probably eventually do it in souhtern Lebanon as well, if they can make enough excuses to bomb city blocks and hold them vacant for a year. The US will back the ownership transfer and say they customarily dont get involved in internal government issues, and have no room to comment, if local laws were followed. They will tell people to take it up with the Israeli courts.
Forced gentrification is a thing the racists and weirdos want to do now huh?
Its's been an Israeli tactic for 50 years now.
This doesn’t seem to pass the sniff test and might be propaganda-
reddit.com/…/multiple_people_on_twitter_are_claim…
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You can easily Google that guy
But maybe your problem is the source?
Do you trust an Israeli news agency more? Not sure why anyone would, but here you go.
haaretz.com/…/00000190-2b9d-d340-a1f8-2b9d1822000…
The only thing being pointed out there is that the settler group Uri Tzafon is not directly associated with the Israeli government. The article posted here doesn't say that they are.
Sure, this fringe group may be taking advantage of Israel's incursion into Lebanon for their own purposes, but the fact that the Israeli government doesn't say "Hey, cut that shit out," is telling. I would further expect that when "settlers" (occupiers) decide to take up residence in another country and then rightfully get kicked the fuck out of that country by force, that the Israeli government/military might then protect them in Lebanon. All while still saying "Oh, they're not at all affiliated with the Israeli government!"
Isn’t that way we call them settlers?
For me settling is primarily about stealing land. I’m not so concerned about the “legal status” of that theft under the thieves’ regime.
My point was that settlers are technically not considered Israeli.
They’re definitely Israelis. Are they agents of the government? Well this is a little subtler than you might think. No they are not on government payroll. Yes they hang on their government’s week to week, mile by mile policy posture toward settlement and constantly take as much as they can get away with without alienating that government. It’s such a tight relationship that yes, you should effectively hold the government responsible for their behavior.
It seems I am wrong. I thought certain settler groups weren’t Israeli citizens to begin with.
It sure is. It’s telling the exact same story the West Bank has seen play out for decades now.
Lebensraum
Lebanonsraum
They’re going to build right up to the river they told everyone to get north of.
So non military Israelis are invading a soverign country and claiming land? I hope Lebanon treats them as the invaders they are.
Aside from the obvious, has anyone noticed, that those stairs lead to a wall?
Like Netanyahu’s politics?
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This chair appears to have the reflection of a back, but not an actual back.
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Any day now, “AI” will stop producing this garbage. They just need another trillion dollars…