Israel demands UN chief resign over Hamas attack comments (www.bbc.co.uk)
from mwguy@infosec.pub to world@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 2023 02:29
https://infosec.pub/post/4146916

By David Gritten BBC News


Israel has demanded that the UN’s secretary general retract comments he made about the Gaza war and apologise.

António Guterres said in a speech to the Security Council on Tuesday that he condemned unequivocally Hamas’s deadly attacks in Israel two weeks ago but that they “did not happen in a vacuum”.

Israeli ambassador Gilad Erdan accused him of “justifying terrorism” and called for his immediate resignation.

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ShroOmeric@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 2023 02:30 next collapse

They really have no shame.

WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 2023 02:44 next collapse

How DARE you imply our actions have consequences!

scarabic@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 2023 20:53 collapse

Walter: “Antisemite!”

pdxfed@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 2023 06:29 collapse

It’s a heavy mantle to wear when you have God On Your Side.

autotldr@lemmings.world on 26 Oct 2023 02:35 next collapse

This is the best summary I could come up with:


António Guterres said in a speech to the Security Council on Tuesday that he condemned unequivocally Hamas’s deadly attacks in Israel two weeks ago but that they “did not happen in a vacuum”.

The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says more than 6,500 people have been killed in the territory since Israel retaliated with air and artillery strikes while massing troops for an expected ground invasion.

He then told the council that it was “important to also recognise the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum”, adding: “The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation.”

He warned that the failure to include fuel risked a disaster, explaining that hospitals would be left without power and drinking water would not be purified or pumped.

The foreign minister of the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority, Riyad al-Maliki, demanded an end to what he called the “ongoing massacres being deliberately and systematically and savagely perpetrated by Israel” against the two million people living in Gaza.

Mr Cohen said the killing of 1,400 men, women and children by Hamas constituted a massacre that would “go down in history as more brutal” than those committed by the Islamic State (IS) group.


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theacharnian@lemmy.ca on 26 Oct 2023 02:51 next collapse

Netanyahu is taking Israel down a very very dangerous path. This will not end well.

roguetrick@kbin.social on 26 Oct 2023 04:57 collapse

Likud is doubling down because the Israeli public is blaming them for failing to stop the attacks. They're grasping at any attention shifting straw they can.

Looking at this situation critically is an existential threat to the Israeli right wing. It would be usefu if more world leaders called them out as such.

drmoose@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 2023 05:56 collapse

Israel was always extremist right wing anyone’s thinking otherwise is deceiving themselves.

roguetrick@kbin.social on 26 Oct 2023 05:59 collapse

They were always Zionist. I'm not a fan of nationalist shit like that regardless but that doesn't mean they were fascists like the current crop. Hoping to expel Arab citizens and cheering settlers murdering bedouins ain't the political history of Israel.

drmoose@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 2023 06:38 collapse

The nationalist concept is just so alien to me. I don’t understand how can anyone come to this conclusion unless they never left their home town in their entire existence. Most israelis have more in common with Arabs than differences. In fact even their religion is essentially the same thing. It’s trully depressing.

bioemerl@kbin.social on 26 Oct 2023 07:00 collapse

Most israelis have more in common with Arabs than differences

The Arabs will literally exterminate them.

drmoose@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 2023 07:27 collapse

Nah man 99% of Arabs couldn’t care less if not the overlord propaganda.

bioemerl@kbin.social on 26 Oct 2023 12:29 collapse

it's not like the region is long and storied history of feuds between people with different religions or anything.

These aren't happy little secular cultures like the west (and even the West has problems with Christianity even though Christianity is mostly neutered nowadays). These are shitty backwards ass cultures founded in false religions and theocratic dictatorships who can and will do everything in their power to purge all those who don't believe what they're supposed to.

When hamas was founded their explicit aim was to get rid of all the Jews. They were voted in by popular support.

theacharnian@lemmy.ca on 27 Oct 2023 13:08 collapse

You are writing shit that is racist as fuck.

bioemerl@kbin.social on 27 Oct 2023 15:40 next collapse

It's the truth and nothing but.

Would you like to point me to the secular and accepting middle east so I can revise my understanding?

lightnegative@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 2023 17:11 collapse

Nah, that isn’t racist.

Here’s the racist version:

Sand removeds gon’ sand nigg. They’ve been sand nigging for thousands of years and they will continue to sand nigg regardless of outsiders attempts to interfere.

Honestly we should just leave them to it

middlemanSI@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 2023 04:05 next collapse

Riddle me this…Fuck __________

mwguy@infosec.pub on 26 Oct 2023 04:16 next collapse

Batman

PugJesus@kbin.social on 26 Oct 2023 04:29 collapse

authoritarian warmongering shitheads

jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de on 26 Oct 2023 05:17 next collapse

Are they going to ask for Biden to resign too?

mwguy@infosec.pub on 26 Oct 2023 06:47 collapse

Likely not. That’s the Israeli government’s position too. That the West Bank settlers starting a ruckus risks the conflict’s expansion.

The UN Sec Gen is essentially saying that a region that has had self rule for 20 years has been under a smothering occupation for 56 years. That’s simply untrue.

bamboo@lemm.ee on 26 Oct 2023 07:06 collapse

The self rule is fairly irrelevant when it’s a very small territory under a land, air, and sea blockade. The area is densely populated, unable to be self sufficient in terms of water, fuel, and agriculture, and has a huge refugee population. There isn’t a chance for a good outcome in a situation like that.

mwguy@infosec.pub on 26 Oct 2023 16:12 collapse

I mean if you ignore the billions of aid dollars that it’s been provided then yes. But there has been more than enough aid for it to build infrastructure and live peaceably with it’s neighbors. They’ve just squandered it on constant, useless war.

bamboo@lemm.ee on 26 Oct 2023 16:54 collapse

Providing a small amount of aid for basic necessities they are otherwise denied due to land theft is literally the bare minimum, nobody is living a good life in those conditions. War is inevitable because terrible conditions are inflicted upon people which causes radicalization. It’s literally a “the beatings will continue until morale improves” situation.

mwguy@infosec.pub on 26 Oct 2023 19:25 collapse

Providing a small amount of aid for basic necessities they are otherwise denied due to land theft is literally the bare minimum,

It’s not the bare minimum anywhere else in the world. Imagine if we had redirected the last decade’s worth of aid to Guatemala or the Dominican Republic how much more effective that aid would have been.

There are a thousand places on the planet with less than Gazans, none of them demand the God given right to genocide their neighbors.

Gamoc@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 2023 08:23 collapse

You don’t know enough about this situation and should go learn about it before you embarrass yourself like this again.

mwguy@infosec.pub on 28 Oct 2023 07:21 collapse

I know plenty about this situation. Palestinians widely believe that they don’t have to accept a two state solution, and that they can and are entitled to terrorism their way to victory against Israel on the dime of international aid.

corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca on 26 Oct 2023 07:20 next collapse

Israel could leave the UN.

scarabic@lemmy.world on 26 Oct 2023 20:51 collapse

A day or two after 9/11 I attended a memorial service at Bill Graham Auditorium in San Francisco. A black minister who spoke to the assemblage made a similar remark about US policy in the Middle East. Dianne Fienstein stood up and walked off the stage in protest.

R.I.P. bitch.

The best security policy is not manufacturing enemies.

mwguy@infosec.pub on 27 Oct 2023 03:41 collapse

The best security policy is not manufacturing enemies.

I wish that were true.

scarabic@lemmy.world on 27 Oct 2023 05:04 collapse

How about this: the worst security policy is manufacturing enemies.

mwguy@infosec.pub on 28 Oct 2023 15:29 collapse

Indeed that hasn’t been effective for us. But we’re going to try again by funding Al-Qaeda in Syria. Maybe it will work differently this time.