US reportedly offers amnesty to Venezuela's Maduro to give up power
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The people that tried to stage a coup in Venezuela are trying to tell us that he lost and must step down?
Shame you’re being downvoted, but you’re right. While Maduro’s regime is certainly autocratic and corrupt, the US has been interfering in Venezuela for decades in order to gain access to its oil reserves (the largest in the world).
This article in The Intercept is a good overview of the history, which includes two failed coup attempts.
Any claims that this latest ploy is being carried out for the sake of “democracy” should be viewed with the utmost skepticism.
The US doesn’t care about democracy. It only seeks power.
The global oligarchy wants power and ownership of everything… They just use the US to do their dirty work… They used to pay us pretty well to turn a blind eye, but they stopped doing that
Truth can be spoken from evil places too, my friend.
Technically, it was the Trump administration, not the Biden, and that attempt was weird even to the Republicans weird standards. One would think if they really wanted him gone, the CIA would be involved, not just some weird ass mercenary group no one has heard of (Silvercorp)
I have to ask: Do you honestly think Maduro won the election, though?
With bipartisan support in Congress. Passed a nearly unanimous in both chambers bill recognizing Guaido as “the real president”.
Pelosi even held a press conference “thanking him for his courage” 🙄
Passing a bill recognizing something isn’t even remotely planning and executing a coup. These idiots wanted to become the next Blackwater or whatever Prince is calling those fuckers nowadays. The CIA even told them that if they went through with it, they were on their own.
With all the massive fuckups the Trump administration committed, at least the CIA had the sense to not touch this with a 30ft pole.
You seem completely oblivious to the more than a dozen coup attempts by the United States against Venezuela which only includes this century.
Cool.
Ignorance is bliss
Let’s take a moment to reconsider.
Can you provide the 12 examples? Factual information please.
It seems like the decision you made might not have been the most effective just posting this text without even linking a wikipedia entry.
We all have room for growth, and this might be a great learning opportunity for you. It’s important to approach these situations with thoughtfulness and understanding.
Everyone has areas where they can improve, and this could be a chance for you to reflect and develop your skills further.
We all want to see each other succeed, so let’s work together to make sure we’re making the best choices moving forward, this is my part of support.
Just admit you’re talking out of your ass
Nice attempt. Recognizing Guaidó was bipartisan . So yes, the same people
Answer my question plz.
Your question is irrelevant, it’s not the US’s concern. They are in no position to question the integrity of another countries elections when ours is questionable at best.
Answer my question plz. It’s simple
Yes
Or
No
As if anyone would trust the word of America.
Especially not the guy they’ve tried to coup already.
This must be the very reason why Maduro hasn’t released the election results by state, city, street and polling station
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Maduro faked an election. In the past the US has interfered there. The US is offering a compromise to the autocrat (amnesty) in order for the will of Venezuelan people to be fulfilled. And ML people are mad because “US = bad, so must agree with everything opposite of US”, which in this case is an anti democratic dictator. Am I misunderstanding?
You dropped this
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I’d love for you to explain your thought process, by all means please expound on your position.
It’s a giant strawman.
Like how your comment claiming that nobody who distrusts the foreign policy actions of the US with regards to the leader of a country they’ve been fucking with since before most of us were born, has any reason better than being a Marxist-Leninist “US = bad” useful idiot is a giant strawman.
Which comment are you referring to of mine?
I’d like to posit the following: every nation, including yours, is doing things to advance the interests of itself over the interests of other nations.
Now whether or not you or I agree on if the US has been involved in shady and underhanded things in the Americas, and I do agree they have, is irrelevant to the fact that this was not a free or fair election and the USA is not the only one saying this.
Using the USA as the bogeyman to justify your arguments so you can ignore the rest of the world actually does seem like a straw man though.
Regardless your opinions are fucked and your assertions are woefully uneducated and frankly when I put the period on this sentence and hit post I’m going to block you and improve my world.
I think you unveiled the real strawman on this conversation lol.
Dude don’t waste time fighting tankies they get paid on engagement and add nothing of value to the conversation.
These guys are literal internet colonizers denying others of their own right to democracy and election results because ‘USA bad’.
Other people may see what is said, if you leave bullshit alone it just stinks.
Misinformation thrives where it isn’t refuted.
thats not a strawman, its burningman.org
Both: it’s the giant strawman from Burning Man 😉
In the past? You mean the more than dozen attempted coups this century alone?
This is how Chile deposed Pinochet, right?
And once he’s gone, are there going to be new elections where the jailed/exiled candidates can also run against MCM in a proper clean election?