from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 10 Feb 03:42
https://lemmy.world/post/42939179
European nations wanting “insurance” against Russia are looking to France and Britain to share their nuclear deterrents.
European countries that spent decades sheltering under America’s nuclear umbrella are now openly discussing a new form of protective alliance against Russia built around French and possibly British atomic weapons.
It’s a direct response to Donald Trump eroding confidence in NATO’s Article 5 common defense pledge by trashing allies, questioning U.S. commitments and turbocharging doubts with threats to seize Greenland.
Leaders in Sweden, Norway, Germany and the Netherlands — some of Europe’s most pro-American countries — have publicly confirmed in recent days that they’re holding conversations about a European nuclear deterrent to complement the American version.
#world
threaded - newest
yayyy just what we need! more nukes!
I mean, you joke. But compare Cuba, Iran, Venezuela, and North Korea right now. One of them has absolutely no fear of a US invasion.
It’s true North Korea isn’t genuinely worried of a US attack, but I doubt it’s arsenal is why
NK dont fear invasion because China would not want to run the risk of having US forces on their doorstep. And China would not want to deal with millions of NK refugees. Hence that’s likely an even bigger reason than nukes. Sure, nukes is also a really great deterrence, but even without they wouldn’t get invaded.
Precisely.
Attaboy Mr President. You win ‘race to armageddon’… The ‘Pillock of Peace’ will be all yours once there’s no one around to make war.
Charles de Gaulle was right about the americans
So was the Ayatollah.
Nice try , There is no comparison between Ayatollah .and Charles de Gaulle.
Ayatollah . will go down in history for very different
events that have had a major impact on the Middle East today.
Mass murder of his own people
Khomeini nailed that the US is the Great Satan. A fact that much of the world outside of the West is in agreement with.
Khomeini was also mass murder of his own people ,right or not ?
If you’re scoring by mass murder. I think the US wins hands down
I think ,you need to read the sentence again, which part of the sentence you don’t understand ? “Own people” perhaps ? I’ve seen Iran in 1970 , I’ve seen it in 2024
You saw the Savak in 1970? If you knew history you’d know the Shah, an ally of the US and israel, was a brutal dictator who killed and tortured thousands.
But the MSM isnt mentioning that, or the brutal sanctions in place by the US which has caused enormous suffering in Iran, because it doesn’t fit the neocon agenda of convenient humanitarianism
No nation is “the great Satan”, that’s just religious swill. Some nations are good, some are bad, many are Grey. I’ll give you the US is bad, but no need to bring religion into your geopolitics. That’s always bad and often leads to genocides.
Yep
What did he say?
I’m not liking the nukes element, but l understand how even letting the US know it is being considered is a tool. They will be part of the structured and comprehensive response for our economic and sovereign safety. A so called ally has shown that we need to change the balance of power and influence for our futures. Hopefully, ne without nukes!
“Holding conversations” on something in the EU means nothing is set in stone yet, which is worrying.
Good.
Every country needs to have a nuke now. If the US is a-okay with electing people whose brains don’t work (and we’ve elected two in a row), mutually-assured destruction is your only protection from the next madman we elect.
the entire world will be arming up with nuclear weapons now, and someone somewhere will use them.
Putin’s concept of infighting among the Western powers is disturbingly functional, unfortunately.