Empty rooms and Fifa cancellations - US hotels fear World Cup washout
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from throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to world@lemmy.world on 20 May 11:14
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from throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to world@lemmy.world on 20 May 11:14
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Boycott the shit outta this fash cup
I’m gonna give you the lemmy peace prize for this, but skip me a few cool billion first
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The Aryan came third.
Shouldn’t 2nd and 3rd be at different heights?
Both losers.
Most are only higher in the middle.
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ist he 2nd? It would make sense for the stands to see the front side of the podium, no?
The German was second.
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Second, and by all account Luz Long was a standup guy.
Don’t let out of context photos dictate the narrative and warp your views.
But the system was racist, whether he was or not.
They don’t care if you or any other poors boycott, your pennies mean nothing to them. There needs to be more protestors outside the cup than audience inside it. Clog the stroads. Chant until the words of outside reality break the fantasy within.
good!
Lol…
It’s obvious what’s happening, but it’s not as good as people are thinking.
The reason to kets are so expensive, is American reselling processes.
Scalpers ought up all the tickets immediately, and instantly relisted them for higher. New scalpers are buying those, and listing them again.
Everytime they’re resold, another cut gets taken out by Ticketmaster. And Fifa is likely getting a piece of that in addition to their original piece.
FIFA is going to make a shit ton of money. Scalpers may lose some, but what little “economic incentive” from the games won’t materialize, because we’re almost guaranteed to have a bunch of “unsold” tickets that were sold 4-5 times already.
People already there may be able to capitalize on tickets being cheap right before games start as scalpers panic, but no one will travel short notice. And once the first games air with a bunch of empty seats, people will try to wait till last minute and buy tickets. Likely getting ripped off at the event and trying to enter with fake tickets
The entire thing is going to turn into a giant cluserfuck, and that’s without ICE running around like they’re almost guaranteed to.
You couldn’t pay me enough to show up in the general vicinity of one of these games
Yep, ai got tickets direct from FIFA. Two decent seats (tier 2). They cost me $450 each. They are reselling for $1200+. I am not selling but hope the scalpers lose.
good luck… tons of “at cost” tickets are not selling
Ha. Those will be $30 when they need to pack the stands for TV.
How does that work if the tickets are owned by scalpers?
Would be funny if the only people attending the games were the last scalpers left holding the bag like ‘eh may as well’
Yep, this is why the scalper issue will never get resolved, because they also benefit from it. They will literally do every convoluted way to “prevent” scalping except the actual solution: resales can only be done at original ticket price or lower, and no reselling fees go to ticketmaster.
I’d even be fine with resale prices limited to original sale price plus a nominal FLAT fee for ticket master.
Why should Ticketmaster get anything from a resale?!
TM itself can fuck off, but a ticket supplier is providing a service, and transferring tickets is part of that service. Unless the seller is literally just handing physical tickets off to a buyer, the mediating service is using resources to facilitate the transfer, which costs them money.
How much does
UPDATE tickets SET holder = @newuserid WHERE holder = @olduserid AND ticket_id = @ticketidcost?That depends, how comfortable are you with SQL injection directly from the webpage with no other security measures?
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No idea, but I doubt it costs nothing to facilitate a secure transfer. And if scalpers are ever going to be deterred, systems like this will be necessary and have costs to do so. Obviously that’s not why TM takes their cut, but it will be an expense even in an ideal system.
Look, I hate Ticketmaster too. But there’s an infrastructure cost. I started with a percentage fee, but that leads to incentive for higher resale values. A nominal transaction flat fee not to exceed $1.00 would make sense
That was pretty much how things worked for Ticketmaster in Norway when I had someone bail on going to a festival we were planning on attending together, as I recall. So it can be addressed, just probably need to be in a country with a functional government and regulations.
Seems like a good way to launder money
Wouldn’t it be fun if the scalpers would end up with loads of unsold tickets?
If they get resold 5 times, that’s four scalpers making money and one losing…
That’s not gonna solve the problem, especially since Ticketmaster offers up tickets early to large volume buyers and even reserves huge blocks for them.
Ticketmaster doesn’t give a fuck what the person who sits there actually paid or if the seat is empty
Because everytime it resells, they get the same percentage of an ever growing number.
The product is ticket sales, so they sell the same ticket as many times as they can.
Empty seats won’t solve anything. And if it keeps happening it’ll end up like airplanes where they just sell someone else a new ticket at a discount and profit off the seat again.
We need to actually fix it, and not just for the Cup
I genuinely hope not a single person shows up.
Soccer fans are nationalist assholes, they will show up, to watch players like Ariaga! Ariaga II! Bariaga! Aruglia! And Pizzoza!
OPEN WIDE FOR SOME SOCCER!!!
US = play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Oh noes FIFAs a bust.
Oh well.
Next.
Fuck FIFA and their boot licking, corrupt bullshit. Somehow I think they’ve managed to be more corrupt than any of the US based sporting organizations.
FIFA is up there as one of the most corrupt organizations out there. There’s not a US sporting org that even comes close.
Cheerleading might come close.
Bunch of pedos
Its also very dangerous and they’ve avoided being labeled a “sport” to avoid certain regulations. According to this article it accounts for over 50% of catastrophic injuries in female athletes - sportsmed.org/…/flips-falls-and-fractures-the-rea…
It may have gotten better in recent years, it’s been a while since I read up on the subject.
Good point. Cheerleading and gymnastics, although idk if that’s mainly a US problem.
LOL. Liberty Media, Indy 500…
No one outside of USA has heard of either. FIFA is a global organisation.
No one outside the USA has heard of Formula 1? Ok.
Indy 500 has nothing to do with Formula 1. Different cars, different rules, different drivers, etc.
Liberty Media owns Formula One Management (FOM), the company responsible for the production of F1 as a piece of media, while the International Automobile Federation (FIA) is responsible for the rule formula itself, the stewards, marshalls, race director, etc.
So when the person said, “no one outside of the US has heard of either” they were wrong. Liberty Media certainly isn’t as well-known a name as Formula 1, but it owns Formula 1.
And Formula one is massively corrupt. F1 races are also hotbeds of human trafficking.
There may be some races, but ladies, that’s not why your husband is there.
IndyCar is run by a few billionaires who all support MAGA, and your government spends hundreds of millions of your taxpayer dollars supporting teams.
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Roger Penske getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom for no reason.
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According to some Russian propaganda conspiracy forum?
Sure, nobody who goes to a race goes to see cars drive quickly…
Who said F1 had anything to do with indycar? Fucking read?
Indycar is broadcast in 200 countries. It’s just another big corrupt sport.
I’m not familiar with the corruption of Indy 500 and I hadn’t heard of Liberty Media until reading this comment chain. Is Liberty Media a US based org or does F1 just have some events in the US?
They have always been a corrupt to the bone org.
Your pedo boss made it crystal clear that it doesn’t want “aliens” in the US. Why are you all acting surprised when no “aliens” are coming? Or is the surprised because we are the “right kind of alien”?
Apparently white South Africans are the right kind.
Only white ones when he had a say in it
Only if they are white and Nazi enough.
Many of us aren’t surprised at all. This outcome was obvious to us from a mile away.
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I’ve been slapping these bad boys on gas pumps all over town
Thanks to everyone refusing to spend money in or toward my country right now, you’re literally keeping money away from an organization trying to terrorize and imprison us or worse.
Screwing over FIFA is a nice cherry on top too.
I’m leaving the US and one of the first things I did was convert all my USD to local currency. I’m doing my best to actively extract from the US and bring it elsewhere, to hell with my home country
I’m confused as to why you think converting your money was a notable act? What was the alternative?
More people dumping usd means lower demand for it, potentially lowers it’s value. I know it’s more complicated than that and my contribution is basically pennies but I’m hoping it helps a bit
That’s… not how currency markets works. At all. Tell me, what do you think happened to the dollars?
You essentially exported them. More US dollars are now in international use than before.
As you said, not a significant amount in any way, but just bizarre to celebrate contributing almost nothing to the wrong outcome.
Hope nobody goes
Ah, yes, FIFA, mhm, yes, they’re on the list of institutions that should properly fuck themselves to death.
‘Peace and quiet’ prize for no one attending the world cup :D
That doesn’t bode well for the future of the FIFA Peace Prize as an institution
I was really looking forward to some longevity there.
Good.
No problem.
FIFA’s inaugural Peace Prize winner will fix everything.
To be clear… you mean he’s going to determine the winning team, right?
only after bettin errr I mean investing heavily in a totally random team, and not the definitive winner… wink wink
If by “winning team” you mean “claims the trophy for himself”; yes. But don’t worry, there’s a feast of room temperature McDonald’s waiting for the victors.
It will really say something if people are no show for us world cup. It takes a lot ot keep fans at home.
No, thank you
Hey just a general PSA; can anyone help me find my tiny violin I think I lost it somewhere
I think they found it first.
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Okay
cuz ICE ain’t so very NICE?
So, a lot of tickets have been sold, but no hotels have been booked so far? Maybe ticket scalpers don’t need hotels?
And why the heck should anybody travel to the US under the current administration, where ICE puts random people in concentration camps?
Yep bunch of scalpers gonna be out cash…and honestly hope no one from a foreign country comes here until ICE is gone. I think people are realizing how dangerous it is to come here as a foreigner right now.
This article is still trying to sale the world cup to Americans. Blue dot fever is everywhere this summer. The only reason you should be traveling for the world cup is to hold up a sign on the outside calling for the arrest BB and Trump.
I must be out of the loop. What does “blue dot fever” mean?
Blue Dot Fever is a reference to the symbol and color used by ticket services (ie Ticker Master) to indicate an open seat at a event.
Edit: Many events have been canceled by artist and shows so to the population (manly in America) not having money because of oligarchy is running rampant.
It’s a reference to Carl Sagan’s “pale blue dot” speech. The blue dot is planet Earth. Blue Dot Fever is about the whole world coming together to reject fascism in Israel and the United States.
I was looking to visit but then saw the ticket + hotel prices and noped out
Next Iran wins Against murica in fifa 2026
It should be the first game. Imagine Trump trying to shut the whole thing down after a loss lol.
Iran’s not going to play in the US. It would be suicidal with how Trump is behaving.
Hmm…does this mean the Mexican and Canadian host cities are going to get swamped instead?
I have zero interest in attending a game, but I do have to make trips to Toronto and the traffic, even at the best of times…
If the World Cup has a lot of half empty stadia, I’d be happy.
It might be interesting if the Mexican and Canadian stadia were full though.
That will never happen. Based on some of the events and attendance of those events the World Cup will be fine. Everybody just won’t be able to charge 1000% markups.
I know I wouldn’t want to travel here. White ladies from Canada, UK, and Australia have ended up in detention centers. They’re supposed to be the demographic MAGA pretends to want to protect.