Who is leading Haiti today? (haitiantimes.com)
from 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org to world@lemmy.world on 14 May 10:43
https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/34526481

Haiti has no president or elected officials. Instead, an expensive nine-member presidential council holds power without oversight or accountability.

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onoki@reddthat.com on 14 May 11:27 next collapse

Interesting to hear news from the smaller countries too. Thanks for sharing!

S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 May 11:59 next collapse

And how did the council handled the gangs? Damn it’s sad to see this country goes basically unnoticed and without help.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 14 May 12:36 collapse

Without help with active sabotage from the West.

Edit: To everyone asking what I'm talking about: Aside from France bleeding the country dry, the US occupied it until 1934 and controlled its budget until 1947 when it finally paid off its "debt" to France. Whatever chance Haitians might've had at a decent life before 2050 was crushed by France and America, leaving it in a worse position than even African post-colonial states. And yes, the effects of colonialism do last that long; just look at Africa. America and France have a responsibility to fix the mess they created in Haiti.

ChicoSuave@lemmy.world on 14 May 15:09 next collapse

I haven’t heard of this (outside of whatever happened 200 years ago). Which western nations are doing what?

njm1314@lemmy.world on 14 May 17:56 next collapse

Outside of what happened 200 years ago? You think no one’s been fucking with Haiti since then? America has invaded Haiti since then. Brother read up on the history of Haiti. It’s basically been a shit show for the last 200 years.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 15 May 02:18 collapse

Check the edit.

Skiluros@sh.itjust.works on 14 May 16:51 next collapse

What active sabotage?

This is conspiracy theory level thinking. The “West” very much wants the situation to stabilise. They might not be willing to contribute enough resources, but that’s the same thing as actively wanting Haiti to be ruled by gangs.

ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works on 14 May 17:45 next collapse

The CIA bro

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 15 May 02:19 collapse

Check the edit.

Skiluros@sh.itjust.works on 15 May 04:38 collapse

Not denying the historical commentary w.r.t. colonialism. It’s still a conspiracy theory to think that western countries currently want Haiti to be unstable and be run by gangs.

As I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, they might not want to bear the financial burden (I would speculate you need several billion USD a year for security and institution building), but it’s not like they actively benefit from Haiti being unstable.

That being said, I am open to alternative commentary from someone living there (unfortunately I’ve never been to Haiti).

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 15 May 04:41 collapse

That's true, I meant that Haiti was historically actively sabotaged—rather than simply neglected—by the West. In hindsight I should've worded that differently.

S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 May 01:45 collapse

Alright and the west did…

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 15 May 02:21 collapse

Check the edit.

S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 May 02:58 collapse

Yeah but I mean current situation. How the current council deals wifh the gangs?

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 15 May 03:09 collapse

Oh, that part isn't directly the West's fault beyond historical responsibility. I meant to say that Western sabotage, not just neglect, is what led to Haiti's present state, not that they're being sabotaged right now. I should've worded that better.

LesserAbe@lemmy.world on 14 May 13:58 collapse

Very challenging situation. To me seems like the thing to focus on is lack of electoral legitimacy. Maybe I’m using the wrong frame of reference coming from a larger country, but $8 million a year for a country’s leadership expenses doesn’t seem overly expensive. But I do understand being mad to spend any money on people who haven’t been chosen by the country’s citizens.

demonsword@lemmy.world on 16 May 13:25 collapse

$8 million a year for a country’s leadership expenses doesn’t seem overly expensive

it is when the whole country is dirt poor and its citizens are starving