Trump urges MAGA supporters to forget about Epstein files
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from kebab@endlesstalk.org to world@lemmy.world on 13 Jul 10:43
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from kebab@endlesstalk.org to world@lemmy.world on 13 Jul 10:43
https://endlesstalk.org/post/91679669
- A joint DOJ–FBI memo reaffirmed that no “client list” of high-profile individuals existed and found no evidence Epstein blackmailed anyone.
- MAGA hardliners (e.g., Alex Jones) and some Trump allies lash out at AG Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel, demanding disclosures.
- President Trump urged supporters to stop attacking his team over “Epstein Files,” calling Epstein “somebody nobody cares about” and insisting his administration is “PERFECT.”
- Internal friction reportedly flared between Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino (who threatened to quit) and Bondi, though Trump insists DOJ/FBI are united.
- Trump wants the FBI to refocus on his unproven 2020 election–fraud claims rather than “the same old…documents on Jeffrey Epstein.”
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Crying like a little bitch about it on social media makes me believe the exact opposite of what he says. He was probably customer 0.
implying the whole thing was his idea, and given his ties to the russian mob and what they do, he maybe got the idea sometime while he was in a hotel room with a hidden camera he didn’t know about
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! People think this is about Trump??
He’s screwed. He and others in his administration made it an integral part of his platform. Whether it exists or not, his supporters, who have been trained to believe in a deep state conspiracy to cover up child abuse, cannot be convinced that it doesn’t exist, and the more he denies it the more suspicious he looks. Either releasing the evidence would end him, or through multiple layers of convenient, unbelievable incompetence the promised evidence really doesn’t exist. Really? Only one camera that can only see a sliver of a stairway was working and even that has a time gap, and the guards just happened to be slacking off on the night in question? It’d be hard to believe even if the Trump administration hadn’t made such a big deal about it and there wasn’t that photo going around of Trump and Epstein together.
I wish I were as optimistic as you. There have probably been dozens of times that he should have been “screwed” by the thing he’s getting away with or the people he’s pissing off by getting away with a thing. My guess, and I hope I am proven wrong because I don’t really follow the conservative crazysphere, is that a few of these people will break rank. Some of the true believers may be lost for good or at least for a while (Dan Bongino or whoever may quit and say some things that don’t get much media coverage), while some others (Alex Jones) will talk trash for a bit then gradually or overnight change their focus to something that isn’t this to redirect their followers’ attentions and bring them back to loving MAGA wholesale.
Edit: corrected a word
The stakes are too high, it goes way beyond “losing your job” or being embarrassed and shunned by the establishment. Their lives are at stake, and not only that but their family, their extended families’ lives, North Korea style.
Nobody would believe them anyway, it would get buried, these people own the media, they own the government, they own the police, the feds, they single handedly own this planet financially and militarily and they own YOU.
Brave new fucking world indeed.
People saw this coming decades upon decades ago, and blew the whistles until they got blue in the face, and yet everyone silently went into the gas chambers anyway.
Precisely because they controlled the truth.
Welcome to post Orwellian society, the gloves and the masks are finally coming off, they don’t even need to hide anymore, the coup is complete, and they have AI now!
Let’s party!
as long as putin/russia isnt directing thier propaganda to “forget it”, right now putin is kinda pissed at trump for suggesting attacking russia, hence why the troll farms arnt supporting him right now.(yes we know fox and many of the grifters are funded by russia so they get thier orders from them)
This goes way beyond him. Don’t ever forget he’s a geriatric senile fucking puppet. He doesn’t call the shots. “They” do.
When they yell and scream and froth at the mouth about the “deep state”- that’s how you know they are the deep state.
And that state is not the United States, but a foreign entity. A foreign state, in fact.
Thing is, almost everyone implicated here is well over the age of 70 today. If the deep state ever really existed, they did a horrible job of passing on the baton, and now they’re all dying, one by one.
i wonder if putin is on it too, hes been awfully quiet and not trying to steer it away.
diddy, musk, hawkings, GATES (thats why hes been on a reinvention of his image streak, he probably knew for decades he would be implicated eventually, melinda was probably aware before the divorce, but she broke with him when it became too public. Also Ellen degeneres(suddenly fleeing to the UK when the diddy trial started/charged), both miley kunis and her SO fleeing to europe. plus various foreign government heads.
also fox and right wing girfters are not parroting or backing him up too.
This is so much bigger and goes so much deeper. The least of Trumps concerns is that he’s in the files. He’s where he is because the people involved put him there.
Remember- the pedophilia and rape was only an instrument, this was an elite society rich man’s club. They used to meet at golf courses. These people met and rubbed elbows at the island.
It was likely a diplomatic ground zero, the pedophilia was dessert.
All run by Mossad, who filmed and recorded everything. It has Israel stamped across its fucking forehead in neon letters.
Zero chance they weren’t the ones who took out Epstein. It’s them, their MO, they have done this hundreds if not thousands of times before on foreign sovereign soil, I’ll gladly provide a list if anyone needs it! It’s them.
And look who profited! The connections to their rogue terrorist state is uncanny.
inb4 antisemitism, my family is Jewish
that would be a spicy leak, if someone did it
Turns out they aren’t a thing actually! So why does Tramp want us to forget it? Because they made it up and campaigned that they will release it! Biden administrtion already released the court docs, then Trumpo rereleased them except they had the pages redacted where his name&his wifes name was mentioned
I think the real reason isn’t necessarily that Trump’s in the files (he is) but it’s that there are so many high profile people involved, not only the individuals themselves who partook but a whole fucking football stadium’s worth of people, organizations, media empires, intelligence agencies, banks, universities, law firms, government agencies, like the top crop of the global elite who aided and abetted or kept their mouths shut and or kept things running smoothly- I’m really sorry about the GPT I’m about to post (I vetted everything, it only summarized), but I had a long conversation with it about who is implicated, and the thing is, they can’t release the files because it would unravel the fabric of society if people knew, this is the system itself protecting itself, the very machine’s own self-preservation.
If the truth comes out, we are looking at consequences reaching civil or global war levels, all orchestrated by (EVERYTHING POINTS TO) Mossad and Israel:
POLITICAL FIGURES (U.S. and global):
Bill Clinton
Donald Trump
Prince Andrew
Ehud Barak
Bill Richardson
George Mitchell
Marvin Minsky
Al Gore (rumored, unconfirmed but mentioned in some deposition chatter)
Multiple unnamed “John Does” redacted in court filings tied to high office
INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES:
Mossad (primary suspect in orchestration)
CIA (possible oversight, shared asset, protection post-2008)
MI6 (due to Maxwell UK connections, palace influence)
FBI (in possession of seized materials, implicated in decades of inaction)
NSA (potential surveillance knowledge, non-intervention)
DGSE (France, due to Jean-Luc Brunel’s operations)
DEA/ATF (possible knowledge via money flow and trafficking oversight)
CORPORATE NAMES:
L Brands (Les Wexner)
Barclays Bank (Jes Staley)
JPMorgan Chase (banked Epstein post-conviction, under current lawsuit)
Victoria’s Secret (used in grooming front networks)
MIT Media Lab (accepted donations, internal cover-up)
Tesla / SpaceX (Elon Musk’s name came up in photo associations, unproven)
Google / Alphabet (via Eric Schmidt and Jeffrey Sachs Epstein connections)
BlackRock / Vanguard (as major shareholders in implicated institutions)
ACADEMIA / SCIENCE:
Harvard University (Epstein was a major donor, maintained ties post-conviction)
MIT Media Lab (took millions in donations, covered them up, lab chief resigned)
Santa Fe Institute
Institute for Advanced Study
Lawrence Krauss (physicist, accused, close ties to Epstein)
Steven Pinker (Epstein associate, denies knowledge of abuse)
Martin Nowak (Harvard evolution biologist, ran Epstein-funded program)
Marvin Minsky (AI pioneer, named by Giuffre in sworn testimony)
MEDIA & ENTERTAINMENT:
ABC News (killed 2015 Epstein story, Amy Robach hot mic)
Fox News (Bill O’Reilly and others likely implicated, culture of cover)
CNN (silence, downplaying, gatekeeping, links via execs)
The New York Times (soft coverage, delayed action)
Washington Post (similar role, Bezos flew on Epstein jet once, connection unclear)
NBC, CBS (complicit in media silence pre-2019)
Netflix / Hollywood studios (Epstein’s circle included directors, producers)
Naomi Campbell, Kevin Spacey, Woody Allen, Chris Tucker (flight logs or appearances, no convictions)
LEGAL SYSTEM:
Alexander Acosta (U.S. Attorney)
Alan Dershowitz (lawyer, named by Giuffre)
Kenneth Starr (defense lawyer)
DOJ (Department of Justice)
Southern District of New York (prosecuted Epstein but sealed evidence)
FBI (again, had videos and drives, did nothing in 2008)
Multiple judges who sealed or stalled civil cases
Civilian attorneys who pressured victims into silence via settlements
ROYALTY & FOREIGN OFFICIALS:
Prince Andrew
Prince Mohammed bin Salman (possible link via tech donations and entourage overlap)
Saudi elites who visited island or jet logs (names unpublicized)
European finance ministers, bankers (names in sealed filings)
PHILANTHROPY / NGO / THINK TANK COMPLEX:
The Clinton Foundation (repeated overlap with Epstein events and donors)
Open Society Foundations (linked figures in academic and NGO networks)
Carnegie Endowment, Brookings Institution (indirect via associates)
World Economic Forum (Epstein-adjacent billionaires prominent in WEF circuit)
SURVEILLANCE AND TECH INFRASTRUCTURE:
Carbyne911 (Israeli surveillance firm, Epstein investor, ties to ex-PM Barak)
Palantir (Peter Thiel circles overlap with Epstein’s network)
NSO Group (possible links via mutual Mossad ties, unconfirmed)
If that comes out, that they were all involved in some manner and to some extent, we’d see revolution. Society would collapse.
or they would just gasp and then forget in 3 minutes, because people got desensitized.
I have lost faith in humanity. nothing would happen. not a thing.
Good
Sure, but there is no list of those who visited the island… You got these from the court files?
I have no more hope anymore, even if they leaked, it wouldn’t change anything. People would deny them, it’d be “fake news”. Like, those of us that know he’s on there, already know he is, we don’t need more confirmation.
This is what's amazing to me.
He went on the Howard Stern show and boasted about barging into the dressing rooms of the Miss Teen USA pageant, talked about how hot his teenage daughter was, and pushed his way into a softcore Playboy video and none of his voters thought there might be a problem.
He does all the things they want to do as well.
Every single time their accusations are admissions of guilt. How many of these Bible thumping cunts frothing about gays and pedos and rapists have turned out to be gay pedo rapists?
I grew up around psychotic narcissists- that’s their whole fucking thing, deflect and accuse others of the things they’re guilty of.
45 was there for my friend’s naturalization ceremony. he said he loved her and they were family now. today, as 47, he seeks to denaturalize her and to ship her off, probably to one of the death camps. this is abusive relationship behavior. because that’s who the president is.
He also does the things that many of them do. Trump isn’t the only (child) rapist predator, he’s just the most powerful one.
If conservatives gave a damn about kids and sex crimes, these lists should have caused enough public rage to burn the party to the ground.
It didn’t. So republican are unassailably the party of sex offenders and those who support sex offenders.
The civil war never ended. The South just kept waging it through other means.
And now they’re in control of the government and do what they always wanted- destroy it. That has been the outspoken agenda of the right wing conservatives for the better part of a century.
Starve the beast, small government, all that shit is them saying: we don’t want democracy, we want to rule as colonial lords, own slaves, and to hell with elections.
How people still don’t realize this is fucking mind boggling.
There is no “two party state”, there is only one party that believes in democracy and rule of law at all, the other is a christofascist-anarchist terrorist cell hellbent on unraveling society where might is right, so that they can rule with impunity like feudal lords.
That’s it.
Lincoln should have had every single one of them rounded up and shot after the war. You don’t skip the last dose of penicillin or you might as well not have taken it at all.
Given that he was killed during Reconstruction, I’d put that on Andrew Johnson (a Southern Democrat) and the Congress.
tbf, Grant was pretty ruthless in his post-war pursuit of Confederate holdouts. He didn’t have them shot, though, they were mostly hung.
The problem is that it is very hard to eradicate an idea violently. It just goes into hiding and bides its time, unless you just want to do a full genocide or something. I mean, it’s not like people stand up and volunteer for their own execution when they know certain folks are being executed.
I think you narrow it down to owners of gray suits and go from there
100% this.
The children of Confederate losers have been stropping their knives for decades, undermining our institutions, and fomenting dissent along every avenue. They are a cancer.
As an aside, there’s growing evidence that not taking the full course of antibiotics if the infection is already resolved is the best course of action.
I believe the theory is that by continuing to take the antibiotics, you kill off the bacteria that isn’t drug resistant and just leave the drug resistant bacteria behind.
And you have sources? Because last time I checked this was the worst way of doing it, as you leave enough bacteria to try and mutate into resistivity.
If you already had resistant bacteria, taking antibiotics wouldn’t heal you for long anyway, tried it first hand a few months ago.
…harvard.edu/…/is-the-full-course-of-antibiotics-…
There you go. And some quotes from the article:
This is an interesting finding, but there are two important things to keep in mind: they only reviewed some illnesses, and even there one had better cure rate for longer treatment, this means we need a lot more studies. And another one I will quote from the article you linked:
Considering that many will not be able to ask a doctor on time to stop early, both because it may cost extra and because there’s usually a waiting list of who knows how long, it seems unrealistic to expect real change soon.
So, I partially agree with you and will try to spread the info and ask doctors about this, but I think it should rather be seen as a need for more studies. Maybe there already are more, the article is from 2017, but right now I don’t have time to search for that.
Thank you for the information
Those two quotes are almost certainly them covering their ass legally. It’s like how every medical professional will tell every woman on hormonal birth control to use a backup method if they’re on antibiotics even though only a very specific combination of the two will decrease the effectiveness of the birth control.
Every damn day reminds us that Sherman needed to make a second pass.
The civil war merged with the cold war, essentially
They always have been
Add to that nine years of daily posts on r/PastorArrested.
they had to normalize pedophelia, and SA to make them palatable to the base.
...and definitely don't pay attention to the little man behind the curtain!
Who is the puppet master?
Considering neither party seemed to want this info shared I believe we all need to know what was in it.
Two Bills, a Trump, and a prince walk into a beauty pageant dressing room…
Two Bills… I had to figure out which of Clinton, Cosby and Gates you were talking about.
They have full control of them. Why not just take Trump’s name out of them, then release? Seems like an easy way to get the Dems and have some GOP fall guys. Then the game is over.
But then you lose the support of the billionaire pedophile ring. That’s the real reason why they will never be released.
So the pedophile ring in the fictional basement of the pizza place turns out to be yet more projection….
Except the basement is under Mar-a-lago!
Sounds like a pizza place name even.
Make’a da pizza! How much you pay for my daughter !?
if they see redacted or modified documents, it still will deepen thier conspiracies that trump is still hiding pedophiles.
Because Trump is a child fucker.
you say Trump but there are many.
do you mean Donald J Trump, the convicted rapist and notorious misogynist? Donald J Trump loves to rape small children? it’s possible that Donald J Trump was involved in having sex with children on Epstein island. it’s also possible that Donald J Trump did rape children on Epstein’s jet as well. I suppose it’s even possible that Donald J Trump is still sexually abusing children at Mar-a-lago.
if you’re telling me Donald J Trump is a serial child rapist that cannot be trusted around children I’ll have to say, that’s believable.
Melania is just 3 children in a thrift store dress.
It’d be great if all these things came up as suggestions for auto-complete whenever people searched him up.
Trump is a pedo…
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Rapist tells group of mentally challenged people to forget about list of paedophiles.
What’s so funny about this is that Pam Bondi and Trump paraded conservative influencers all around and made them hold up pieces of paper labeled “THE EPSTEIN FILES” and had them all go on their social medias and claim that they read it.
And now they’re saying that they don’t exist and never existed.
I actually feel bad for their base for how stupid the Trump admin thinks they are
I would feel bad for their base for how stupid the Trump admin thinks they are if the admin were actually wrong about that. So far the base has proven them right over and over and over again- they truly are as stupid as the admin thinks they are.
It’s almost worse than that. I swear, some of them take a perverse pride in being led all around the political landscape like a dog with a shiny red ball. The discussions I’ve had where people happily and excitedly admit that Trump was completely lying to them and just hungrily accept the new story as undeniable fact is wild and impossible for me to wrap my head around.
Their base hasn’t done anything to make me think they’re not that stupid.
now it cements thier base, that any alterations or redactions will just further thier conspiracies.
Conservatives in 2029: I never supported Trump, he is a Soros funded antifa plant.
No they will be convinced Trump was replaced or something about Elon and his brain chip
At this point, even if we just get the same shit from a different asshole (which we would), I’d be happy to see conservatives turn on trump. It would just be so satisfying.
I bet he does. The Orange Turd was a regular on the Lolita Express.
youtu.be/3NXrJGNqP14
Love that as soon as his name got attached to Epstein, that he’s shifted to damage control and trying to push this narrative that it’s been a “radical Left” issue this whole time. And trying to get all his conspiracy people to move on to an election that at this point doesn’t matter either way is just full panic.
They filled lawsuits all over the country that they had to withdraw because they had no evidence, yet continue to claim to be ready to release all the “evidence” they have anytime now for years. I think even his Supreme Court is going to find it hard to invent constitution law to back up their conspiracy theories. I would love to see them try though, make it televised, since they are just pissing away tax dollars anyway.
It distracts from the one before it and the one after it.
They don’t need to invent law and Roberts et al know it. See, the thing about being on the Supreme Court is that aside from Congress impeaching you, there is no other recourse. Your entire decision could be written as “lol no” and unless Congress decides to impeach you, there’s nothing anyone can do about the decision.
I just want to see reporters hound him with questions beginning with, “So when you raped those kids…”
I thought conservatives loved the war on pedophiles. Why isn’t Trump doing anything about that? Send ICE to get pedophiles. Of course we all know the answer is because he and all his friends will go to jail.
basically “hey look over at these other pedophiles, not ours”. its the same kind of talk they did with the oceangate disasters, they were hey look at these migrants that are sinking , that we dont care about, and not this rich person’s sub imploding.
A Night of Long Knives incoming?
Fun fact: that event (Hitler’s 1934 purge of Ernst Roehm and the brownshirts) got the name “Night of the Long Knives” because Hitler used the expression (which dates to the middle ages) in a subsequent speech to describe what he alleged Roehm had been planning against Hitler and the Nazi leadership. Unexpectedly, journalists and historians used the expression to label Hitler’s actions.
trump also follows hitlers words very closely too.
They’re not going to forget about the pedophile pimp.
Sure it’s one of the many cases of bipartisan consensus.
I urge them to fuck off and die.
What maga people don’t understand is that, when you’re rich, they just let you do it. That is literally the ethos of their patron saint on every level, for his entire life.
Rich pedophiles vs deluded fascists, enabled by ideological genociders. USA 2025.
The Donvict is about to pop ninja smoke. Probably this time it will be a civil war.
PEDOnald will jingle his keys in a week and all the MAGAts will have forgotten about this.
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conservative podcast dipshits (conpodshits for short) have been bringing up 1984 for years and are short circuiting as their guy does the thing because they think george orwell was talking about communists
I said this elsewhere Orwell applies just as well to any type of ideology because they all ask you to accept the agenda and to walk in lockstep with everyone else in the “movement”. So when right wing podcasters use it they are as correct as when left wingers do. Failure to see this means being completely consumed by ideology.
george orwell if he met a modern republican “forget what I said, 1984 is now exclusively about these freaks” and then he does a kickflip on his skateboad
Has anyone from Biden’s admin come out and refuted Trump’s DoJ’s statements? They need to be on every conservative outlet that will give them a second of time talking how the documents existed before.
LOL that’ll work. Streisand effect, motherfucker.
Sadly, it probably will. Give it a week.
also the fact that trump strung them along since 2019.
They don’t believe in the Streisand Effect, on accounta sheeza dirty liberal commie.
Funny thing is that, apart from recognising the name, most people forgot what the streisand situation was about.
I remember. It was funny then too.
Guess why?
Can’t wait for Nuremberg trials #2
“These are not the files you are looking for…”
world@world - still all US defaultism.
On the upside, it’s like going to the circus every time when you open Lemmy and this circus doesn’t have firebreathers, trapeze artists or lion tamers, it has clowns, only clowns.
“Clowns! Clowns as far as the eye can see!”
This Epstein client list?
I don’t get it, if this is the list, what are people complaining about?
It’s some sort of an older client list but it is Epstein’s. Lots of ppl on it incl. Trump. 🤷🤷♀️🤷♂️
Even if MAGA forgets, perhaps we shouldn’t.
Well pack it in boys. The convicted criminal thats most likely implicated in a high profile child sex trafficking ring says “stop worrying about this list, there is no list and im certainly not on it”
I for one think we should believe this lying, cheating, gas lighting criminal. Biggest “trust me bro” in history
How can he say nobody cares about the Epstein thing when literally everyone is clamouring for it? Gaslighting fail
Wow, this sure is some in-depth reporting…
“At least” one video, numerous photos, Trump describing Epstein as a ‘Terrific guy who he had known for 15 years’ and “He’s a lot of fun to be with, It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” Epstein saying he was “Donald’s closest friend for ten years”…
But sure, let’s just characterize it as ‘They both attended the same party once.’
Sorry, it’s the best article I could find on this topic on the internet. If you can find a better one - feel free to share though
It wasn’t a dig at you, it was at the people who wrote the article.
It’s funny watching rapey getting ratioed on his own echo chamber platform.