Canadian air passenger traffic to U.S. down for 9th consecutive month
(globalnews.ca)
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from throws_lemy@reddthat.com to world@lemmy.world on 02 Dec 2025 04:23
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For the ninth consecutive month, fewer passengers at Canadian airports are heading to the United States amid the trade war.
New data from Statistics Canada shows total Canadian air passenger traffic in October was up by 4.5 per cent to five million travellers from the same time last year, but the number of people on U.S.-bound trips is down 8.9 per cent to 1.2 million travellers.
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“trade war” makes it sound so harmless… it’s more like “threats of annexation by the sitting president”…
It’s a form of gaslighting. They are minimizing our very legitimate concerns for our continued existence and right to self-determination and pretending we are only mad because of tariffs. They know exactly what they’re doing and why they’re doing it. The battle for Canada’s independence is already in progress. And right now it’s being conducted by information warfare. The risk is that it may not stay there, depending on how much progress they make in the information space.
“War” usually implies a cause and an opponent. This is just chaotic, and against everyone
Where? Oh yeah we don’t go there any more.
I love Canadians but please don’t return! Both for your safety and to send an economic message to all the shortsighted fools. It’s the only way some might wake up.
Yeah, no…
The world should follow Canada’s lead and nobody should visit from anywhere.
I’m American living in Germany and married to a German. I brought him to meet my family last November, because I suspected trump would win or there would be a more significant version of January 6th. People keep asking when we’re coming back, but why the hell would I endanger my husband like that? It’s simply not safe for anyone right now, but especially for noncitizens.
I miss my family and friends, but they can come visit us. We’ll even help them get started learning German and help with their visas and housing if they want to stay.
I think a lot of the world absolutely is, a few months ago I saw similar numbers from Europe, with Denmark and Germany among the biggest declines.
viewfromthewing.com/new-data-shows-europe-to-u-s-…
Denmark is not in the chart, but it is very noticeable here, and although we are a small country we have higher tan average level of traveling and economic interaction with other countries.
There will always be FFFF* tourists, but I have refused business travel to US. The world does too much unnecessary business travel.
*Fat Fucks with Flip Flops
But if they come visit you, they might get deported on their way home.
😅😬🥲
I mean, ideally they want to stay.
Well, you can’t see or eat the AI the Americans are spending all their money on.
You can experience it from home. It’s underwhelming.
Air traffic to USA down 8.9% is very significant, and way beyond any statistical variance or uncertainty. Numbers at that scale tend to change slowly, so by that perspective 8.9% is a lot.
And ironically the Canadian economy is up 2.6% in Q3, and industrial production is up 3.3%. And inflation is down to 2.2%!!
So Canada is doing very well on major economic markers despite the sanctions from USA.
USA on the other hand is not, and Trump is so embarrassed he won’t even allow his fudged numbers to be released.
I call them fudged because he fires people who release “bad” numbers, because Trump claims bad numbers are fake.
Thats nice and all, but none of this apparent success is helping cost of living in Canada. According to my Canadian family, grocery bills just keep on rising.
Except lower inflation is doing exactly that.
Most of the world has been through a period of increased inflation, but Europe is getting it under control now, and apparently so is Canada. So yes this should definitely be helping.
Having just double checked with my Canadian family, and then checking their sources, nope, inflation directly affecting cost of living is not getting under control there. Food price inflation is up 4.7% for 2025, which is more than double the rate of inflation for the last year.
Meat, Coffee, Fresh Fruit, and Fresh Vegetables are apparently the worst hit categories. Also, I got to listen to a mini-rant about Shrinkflation.
Food is not the whole picture:
www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/…/dq251215a-eng.htm
cbc.ca/…/canada-inflation-rate-unchanged-november…
So Canada has their overall inflation under control, despite increasing food prices. Where I live food is only 10-12% of an average budget, and so similarly is only 1 part out of many when the CPI inflation number is calculated.
Transportation, heat, clothes, rent and other things are also included in the inflation number, to better reflect a normal budget. Rent is often a bigger expense than food.
Compared to Canada having 2.2% inflation YOY in November USA has 3%. In USA it may be even higher than 4.7% for food IDK.
Also in USA where many people live below the poverty level, increasing rent and food prices are more serious.
Careful with looking good or tey’ll invade you.
What’s really insane is that we can’t rule it out completely. USA is being run by a bunch of sociopaths, and Trump has dementia which undermines the little self control he used to have.
There be monsters…
My in laws have a second home in the US and have been faithfully going back and forth pretty regularly to maintain it.
Now we’re finally getting to the point where they’re uncertain about going and talking about selling it.
I think there’s a lot of people coming a bit late to the party. I don’t think we’ve stabilized those numbers yet.
I mean, shit, I don’t even want to be here most days because of the absolute embarrassment that is our government and the corporatocracy this country has become. Most other English-speaking countries would be preferable to traveling to the US, imo.
Canadians have never supported aspiring fascists and dictators so this isn’t news. The US has just become something Canadians want no part of.
canadian arms sales to israel notwithstanding
That is surely why the Canadian government claims to not have sold arms to Israel since 2024… /s
Anyone still traveling to the Fourth Reich for other than life preserving reasons is openly supporting fascism, and should be called out on it constantly.
It’s always been stupid how CDNs spent billions in the US for vacation travel.
However, all this has made vacationing in Canada unaffordable, especially with Boomers gouging on AirBNB for their shacks by Mosquito Lake. Finding cottages for summer 2026 has already ended by September 2025.
compared to last year or last month?
Everyone considering visiting the US should ask themselves some serious questions: is my visit so important that it’s worth the risk of being jailed for years? What if I unknowingly break an insignificant law and catch ICEs attention? Do my skin color/religious beliefs put me at greater risk of abuse? What are the possible repercussions for the people I’m visiting, and my loved ones back home?
They can talk about numbers being “down”, but frankly, 1.2 million is WAY too fucking many.