We Can’t Curb Nuclear Proliferation If We Don’t Acknowledge Israel’s Nukes (truthout.org)
from technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to world@lemmy.world on 13 May 14:49
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/68762395

No credible nonproliferation policy begins by pretending not to see the bombs your ally already has.

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thefluffiest@feddit.nl on 13 May 17:08 next collapse

That the US gave them. So much for “non-proliferation”

Geologist@lemmy.zip on 14 May 02:06 collapse

This seems like a bad, revisionist take. France kick started Israel’s nuke program, and they tested their stuff with South Africa.

During the development of their program, I don’t think the US and Israel were even on good terms.

rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works on 14 May 02:41 collapse

France kick started Israel’s nuke program, and they tested their stuff with South Africa.

These things can never be truly confirmed, but rumor has it that their original stockpile of uranium came from US labs.

couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip on 13 May 20:19 next collapse

Omg they have nukes??? ??

Madison420@lemmy.world on 13 May 20:59 next collapse

It’s like 99% certain they purchased both the material and plans from France.

Tiral@lemmy.world on 13 May 22:50 next collapse

Fucking French. If they aren’t laying down their weapons they’re selling them.

rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works on 14 May 02:43 collapse

If they aren’t laying down their weapons they’re selling them.

Couldn’t be a more accurate definition.

Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca on 13 May 23:07 collapse

Actually in collaboration with apartheid South Africa during the sanctions against them and using technology that Israel stole from the US

redsand@infosec.pub on 13 May 21:50 next collapse

Probably since the 90s yeah

NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net on 13 May 23:14 collapse

Since the 70s.

redsand@infosec.pub on 14 May 01:34 collapse

Something about france and south Africa and egypt and Turkey. Been a long long time since i went down that particular rabbit hole

NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net on 13 May 23:12 collapse

Have a look at the Vela incident.

They don’t just have nukes, they’re one of a select few countries that refuse to sign the nonproliferation act, and refuse any inspection into how many they have.

panthera_@lemmy.today on 13 May 21:43 next collapse

Incorrect. Stop new countries from acquiring nuclear weapons and reduce excess stockpiles of nuclear bombs.

cmbabul@slrpnk.net on 14 May 00:04 next collapse

We blew past nonproliferation like long ago, as soon as Russia was allowed to invade Ukraine after Ukraine GAVE UP THE NUKS THEY HAD it was clear to anyone with a fleas understanding of geopolitics is that the lesson of the 20th and 21st centuries is to get nukes as soon as possible and then never ever ever give them up. It’s the only thing to curb the bullying power of the larger and more powerful states

rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works on 14 May 02:48 collapse

The US isn’t interested in non-proliferation. The US is interested in keeping all non-Israel countries to heel, and non-proliferation just provides the right excuse.