북한 or 조선? South Korea debates what to call North Korea (www.theguardian.com)
from Valuy@lemmy.zip to world@lemmy.world on 02 May 11:42
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IcePee@lemmy.beru.co on 02 May 12:51 next collapse

Basically, each half of the peninsula wanted to absorb the other half under it’s legal, monetary and language and naming systems. Both halves wanted a reunification under their terms. Both halves believe they are the real Korea. To the south, the northern states a rebel states. To the north the southern states are capitalistic pig-dogs in hock to the USA.

New approaches from the south is looking to reconciliation and respecting the north’s self determination.

With that summary of my understanding of this article out the way, maybe a model for their relations is the devolved UK.

While I think a, devolved union is better for the world, it can’t be under a reactionary dictatorship. I fear this red line is too much for each side to come to agreement on.

Hegar@fedia.io on 02 May 14:08 next collapse

South Korea calls its northern neighbour Bukhan (북한), or “north Han”, a variation of how the South refers to itself: Hanguk (한국), meaning “Han nation”, a shortening of Daehan Minguk (대한민국), the Republic of Korea.

However, North Korea calls itself Joseon (조선), a shortened version of Joseon Minjujuui Inmin Gonghwaguk (조선민주주의인민공화국), or the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. It has traditionally referred to the South as Namjoseon (남조선), or “south Joseon”.

zaphod@sopuli.xyz on 02 May 15:13 collapse

Han refers to the Han river, which flows through Seoul. It barely borders North Korea, but it’s north of the river, so the name Bukhan works in a way. Joseon is a reference to a historic name of Korea from the Joseon dynasty. It refers to the entirety of the Korean peninsula, not the best name to refer to just North Korea. Similar with the name Korea which comes from Goryeo, the name of unified Korea before the Joseon era.

Hegar@fedia.io on 02 May 15:31 collapse

Thank you!

I vaguely recalled Joseon and Goryeo being different dynasty/periods.

But i had heard that Han as a designation for Korea ultimately comes from the Chinese Han dynasty which was heavily influential/directly controlled large areas of modern day Korea/Vietnam.

Was the river named to honor the dynasty or is that just not true?

frongt@lemmy.zip on 02 May 15:11 collapse

Save your time and clicks. The article just says “maybe this, maybe that, only time will tell”.