these measures have also pushed up unemployment and the poverty rate
Hard to believe this is going to be good for Argentina when the people can’t afford even to live. Seems like he’s just giving the country away to business.
ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml
on 18 Dec 05:24
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That’s essentially the case. His changes, other than the austerity related ones, were intended to make Argentinian goods more competitive (cheaper) globally while actively hurting the purchasing power of Argentinians. If it “works,” it’ll mean inflation slows, and they hope the business profits will trickle down while businesses capture the government, income inequality increases, and businesses and billionaires accumulate more of Argentina’s wealth.
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world
on 18 Dec 05:48
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Sounds like a libertarian paradise. Be extremely comfortable as long as you’re part of a certain 5% of the population.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world
on 18 Dec 09:39
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I guess I will have to counter OP’s simping for Miliei once again.
The austerity has also caused deep economic pain in Argentina, with nearly 60% of Argentines now living in poverty, up from 44% in December 2023, according to the Catholic University. Milei has balanced the budget by slashing financial transfers to provinces, removing energy and transport subsidies and holding wages and pensions steady despite inflation.
If somebody sets a house on fire and then the firefighters come to spray water on it, should we blame them for causing water damage? Although I guess in your thinking Milei is putting out the fire by bulldozing the house with the people inside.
Whichever it ends up being, I think it’s still generally true that in the political world, people who increase fixed costs, causing future financial problems, are never among those who are most blamed for the problems. It’s always the fixers who are blamed.
And yet that’s exactly how the burden of proof works. You made a claim: that it is the only way to deal with the problem. That is a purported statement of fact. The onus is on you to back that up.
elflakoinri@lemmynsfw.com
on 18 Dec 11:23
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The only way? The suffer of people is the only way? You are an asshole
Last trimester’s GDP growth is almost at the point of significance. In the last chart, I’d wait until either we get a point over the blue line or we have a few more points over the dotted line before doing a victory lap.
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Hard to believe this is going to be good for Argentina when the people can’t afford even to live. Seems like he’s just giving the country away to business.
That’s essentially the case. His changes, other than the austerity related ones, were intended to make Argentinian goods more competitive (cheaper) globally while actively hurting the purchasing power of Argentinians. If it “works,” it’ll mean inflation slows, and they hope the business profits will trickle down while businesses capture the government, income inequality increases, and businesses and billionaires accumulate more of Argentina’s wealth.
Sounds like a libertarian paradise. Be extremely comfortable as long as you’re part of a certain 5% of the population.
Guess what Trump’s plan is
I guess I will have to counter OP’s simping for Miliei once again.
apnews.com/…/argentina-milei-budget-congress-econ…
He’s dealing with the problem by massively increasing suffering. Why is that a good thing?
Other than for the upper class, I mean…
If somebody sets a house on fire and then the firefighters come to spray water on it, should we blame them for causing water damage? Although I guess in your thinking Milei is putting out the fire by bulldozing the house with the people inside.
Whichever it ends up being, I think it’s still generally true that in the political world, people who increase fixed costs, causing future financial problems, are never among those who are most blamed for the problems. It’s always the fixers who are blamed.
You didn’t answer my question. Why is massively increasing suffering a good way of dealing with the problem?
Because it’s the only way to deal with the problem.
Please provide evidence to back up that claim. Or is that just a guess?
I’m not sure if I accept you dropping the burden of proof on me here.
And yet that’s exactly how the burden of proof works. You made a claim: that it is the only way to deal with the problem. That is a purported statement of fact. The onus is on you to back that up.
The only way? The suffer of people is the only way? You are an asshole
In case anyone wants to look at the data: …gob.ar/…/sh_oferta_demanda_desest_12_24.xls
Here’s the data on an XMR chart (excluding the pandemic)
And here’s the last section with the downward trend removed.
Last trimester’s GDP growth is almost at the point of significance. In the last chart, I’d wait until either we get a point over the blue line or we have a few more points over the dotted line before doing a victory lap.