Rutte says some NATO allies failed US test
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from stumu415@lemmy.zip to world@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 17:40
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Rutte always has bend over to get the Trump mushroom. Called him Daddy. This guy betrayed the Netherlands and now he’s betraying Europe. I don’t know for sure but it feels like Rutte and Trump met on some island…
Impeach this guy, Trump’s bootlicker.
Well Mark, tell me, where those expectations realistic or even reasonable to begin with???
Rutte has failed my test. He can fuck right off.
What sort of arsehole cunt comes up with weird tests to their allies? Tests that involve participating in a illogical and illegal war. I didn’t celebrate my country joining NATO so that we could go bomb some country in the middle east.
All of this is so infuriating. We don’t need Rutte making things extra stupid.
My brain tries to visualise things when I read and this… was tricky to do.
I’m deeply sorry for making you picture that
No need to apologise. I just visualised Trump’s puckered mouth. All mind-expanding.
Absolutely, this is more shit to divide NATO. Dont give time or quarter to anyone attacking the EU or NATO at this stage. Criticism is alright but should not go as far as encouraging the end of the orgs
Surprise! The members of a defensive treaty aren’t jumping for joy when one of the members begins an invasion and commits war crimes and then calls for the aid of the other members. Especially when said member previously lied before and got many killed for their false cause.
If the purpose of NATO is lost on Rutte then he should step aside and let in someone who actually knows what the organisation is supposed to do.
A US agent
This is the guy under whose ‘leadership’, Dutch politics turned into a toxic cesspool. Education has worsened, the housing market has crashed, environmental problems were not solved and his party made sure that the energy infrastructure was not kept up properly, so that the citizens now pay for a hastened upgrade of said infrastructure. He has claimed to have no vision and is a compulsive liar with a very selective memory. I have not even touched all the debacles he facilitated.
This guy is now the boss of NATO and calls Trump ‘daddy’. He is a fucking disgrace. I am ashamed to be from the same country as this piece of shit.
Rutte was a terrible PM. But he’s a pretty good diplomat. Which I suppose is what NATO needs atm, a diplomat to keep Trump on board, even if it means licking copious amounts of orange ass. There’s no low he won’t go to in order to achieve that goal. He’s doing everything he can to keep Trump from dragging the US out of NATO, which I suppose kind of fits his job description.
Lack of respect for reality to appease a fascist child is not working.
*sycophant
See that mast disappearing behind the horizon? That ship sailed a long time ago.
Exactly, he is keeping the US distracted while the Rest of NATO builds a parallel structure to put in place when the US attacks them or just splits off.
The best thing is that I don’t think he knows that…
Rutte needs to go.
Remember folks NATO was always dominated by the US. So no matter who is in the chair policy will be directed at keeping the US happy
Nope not anymore, several NATO allies supported Greenland with troops to protect against a US invasion.
This of course pissed off Trump.
EU of which many member countries are also NATO members, threatened USA with using the Bazooka, and anti coercion instrument that was originally made to defend against coercion attempts from China.
This Bazooka if used, could dramatically undermine US economy.
This warning of course also pissed off Trump.
I think it’s pretty safe to say that Europe and very much Canada too, are tired of pleasing Trump.
But for some reason Rutte hasn’t got the memo, or more likely he didn’t understand it.
And now Trump is pissed off because NATO allies won’t let USA use their airbases for the illegal unprovoked war with threats of genocide that Trump entered without a plan, and without notifying NATO allies.
Tired yes but the current structure of NATO has it where if the US got the boot the Institution would than collapse and have to be rebuilt from the ground up.
On the Greenland situation while Trump was pissed the more Imperialist Faction of the administration (the political figures that like to keep the Western Institutions that the US built) rather like Europe making use of their own military to defend their respective sphere (which included Green Land for obvious reasons) as doing so means the US has more assets to bomb Iran and such.
Yes which is why in reality NATO has already collapsed, it’s just not been dissolved yet.
But we can’t trust USA to lead NATO anymore. Are you aware that if a NATO operation were to happen in the middle east, USA would have control of the British nukes?
Obviously we can’t allow that.
That is pure fantasy, USA has not redirected anything from the arctic or Greenland to be used against Iran.
Erm that’s not how that works. The US as the leader nation doesn’t give them control over Eroupe’s military.
Really? The US didn’t move assets away from Greenland after the Eroupean powers increased and establish a deal was reached to have the US back off on it’s annexation threat?
That’s exactly how it works.
Really. So if Trump where to hit the nuclear button the UK and French would also be launching their arsenal at who Trump commanded?
If there is a war that NATO is engaged in as an official NATO engagement then yes. But that is never gonna happen under Trump. Hence NATO is dead.
Question, what is the definition of an official NATO engagement?
From Google:
An official NATO engagement, in the context of military operations, refers to actions taken by NATO-led forces authorized by the North Atlantic Council (NAC)
And when was the last time such a deceleration happened
Oh for fucks sake, google it yourself, why is that in any way relevant?
Even if it never happened, it remains the purpose of NATO, because it will definitely happen if article 5 is called, and there is an actual country that is the enemy, and the only country to ever call article 5 was USA. But that was based on a terrorist attack, so a bit of a weird situation.
It’s relevant because you are the one making the claim that the triggering of Article V causes all the military to fall under the sole authority of the US.
I am trying to explains that it doesn’t. Even if Article V where triggered (let’s say Russia invades the Baltic’s) Eroupe would still retain command and ownership of their respective militaries.
The test was to see if EU countries made good lackeys and if they were good and well under Trump’s boot. That’s not the test you want to pass.
Mark Rutte is an idiot, and a traitor to the values of NATO just like USA.
USA failed all tests when they threatened to invade Greenland, and Trump fucking even brought it up again during their meeting!!
And Rutte has the audacity to make this idiotic statement?
USA also threatened genocide against Iran, and Rutte thinks we should help him? Jesus Christ what a moron.
NATO is a defensive alliance, not an alliance to support unprovoked illegal wars.
Hasn’t the US failed NATO by engaging in a war of aggression without consultation and then demanding NATO members to help?
please. its to trumpy to be the actual us. its a trumpy trump test.