Christian Nationalism Has Arrived in Britain
(jacobin.com)
from return2ozma@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 21 May 09:13
https://lemmy.world/post/47154232
from return2ozma@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 21 May 09:13
https://lemmy.world/post/47154232
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I wonder how harsh their stance on this foreign refugee will be
Aaaand of course its through Reform MPs. Why did I expect otherwise
How much do you want to bet they don’t even go to church? I’m an atheist and I’m more christian than them
Color me shocked that this is happening in a state with an established church and members of the clergy sitting in the legislature.
Over a third of all parliamentarians in 2024 chose a secular oath.
Christianity is not the only non-secular group that has overt representatives sitting in the legislature.
Yeah that isn’t gonna work here
Yup. People don’t like religion at the best of times.
Like we need any more imported American ideas. Religion and politics needs to FO
Consider also that some US Christian Nationalists are descended from people who left Britain for freedom from the national religion.
Europe dumped all their assholes and prudes in North America, and then they’re surprised that it turns to shit.
As a white boy deep in the south region of the US where evangelical Christian is the only Christianity I suggest to you, as a person who has live in this shithole, that my brothers and sisters in Great Britain nuke this shit from orbit and pour gasoline on the smoke embers. We thought this would not happen here but we let the fucking nuts congregate and feed off each other. It all started when Eisenhower let Billy Graham in the White House because, " what can a little prayer breakfast hurt?" And no one said a thing because why offend " good Christian" people. Stop it now while the chickens are still in the hen house.
As someone raised in evangelical Christianity and fought my way out, this guy’s not fucking kidding, and neither is he being overly dramatic. I suggest you act with frightening speed and ruthless efficiency, leaving no blade of grass untouched nor smallest nook or cranny overlooked. As you act, do not waver in your fortitude, and do not for even a moment to allow yourselves to consider that you may be acting “a bit rash.” It is imperative that you cease immediately the spread of this pestilence.
Fighting fascism doesn’t mean destroying your ability to self reflect or question yourself. That’s a ridiculous way to think about anything.
Edit: apparently I’m wrong. The guys who never allow themselves to question their actions or thoughts are typically known as the good guys.
No, you’re right in general, but context and frame of reference are a thing. Here the discussion is specifically around reacting to the rise of Christian Nationalism.
This is Karl Popper’s Paradox of Tolerance. If these christofascists are allowed to take power, they will aggressively erode tolerance of anyone else. And based on precedent they will lie and manipulate to get that power. The response must be swift and ironclad.
But knowing the UK cultural propensity for excessive politeness and unhealthy avoidance of social discomfort, they’re probably screwed.
But the backlash to my comment is based on a strawman argument because people cannot imagine you can partially agree with a caveat. The implication of the downvotes here is that if I would say this, I must be a secret fascist. There’s absolutely nothing objectively incorrect about what I said, in context or not. The only reason context would matter here is if you make assumptions about why I made this comment, and that requires a leap. Which apparently, people are very happy to make.
Can not upvote this enough. This man speaks the truth, and reason. He is not crazy. I’ve had a similar experience, and if anything, I think this isn’t raising the warning flag high enough for what could happen in the UK here.
Too bad there’s no “new world” to ship all the fundies off to this time.
Didn’t Christian nationalism literally come from Britain? It didn’t spontaneously form from the ether in America. A bunch of brits sailed to America to slaughter native Americans because God “wanted them to”, a few generations pass and then here we are. And no I’m obviously not saying it is actually this simple (“Americans = brits + time”), but the headline seems dumb to me too.
The Great Awakening, which is where most US Christian nationalism stems from, is a pretty American homegrown phenomenon not happening in any comparable way in Europe at the time.
So no, Christian nationalism did not literally come from Britain. It is capable of appearing anywhere where Christian fanatics congregate to a great extend, and they have never congregated so much as they have and are currently doing in the US.
Thank you for this response.
We need more “Martin Luther” and “Henry VII” shit to come back again. /s
Oh shit. You lot need to nip these assholes in the bud.
America patiently waiting to play their legal divorce uno reverse card on the church of england.