Israeli bullets found inside bodies of Iranian children killed in riots: Report (thecradle.co)
from Mrkawfee@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2026 16:13
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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2026 16:48 next collapse

Israeli arms sales break record for 4th year in row, reaching $14.8 billion in 2024.

Billing one half of Iran to kill the other half.

perestroika@slrpnk.net on 22 Jan 2026 16:53 next collapse

Let’s pause for a while and think about who controls the dissection of bodies, and who can tell coroners to sign statements in Iran.

Yeah, the Iranian government which just supressed the protests. And desperately needs a scapegoat.

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca on 22 Jan 2026 17:23 next collapse

True for sure. Also the source is TASS. On the other hand it’s also true that Israel has interest in toppling the Iranian regime. It’s a well established fact that Israel 's Mossad operates within Iran and funnelling weapons furthers that interest. I don’t doubt Israel has done whatever they could to help the protest topple the regime, and I also don’t doubt the Iranian regime did what they could to pin this on Israel and other foreign actors to deflect responsibility.

ryannathans@aussie.zone on 22 Jan 2026 21:49 collapse

Israel even publicly admitted they have plenty of Mossad agents in the protest

RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2026 23:03 collapse

Because Israel is always honest.

3abas@lemmy.world on 23 Jan 2026 04:23 collapse

When they boast about their crimes or gleefully display them, yes.

RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world on 23 Jan 2026 04:27 collapse

Yeah there’s no way they would take credit for stuff just to escalate violence against Iranians 🙄

3abas@lemmy.world on 23 Jan 2026 07:20 collapse

How would taking credit for shooting Iranian children/supplying weapons to shoot Iranian children escalate violence against Iranians?

They want the narrative to be that the “Iranian regime” is shooting peaceful protestors, and for the US to bomb Iran…

RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world on 23 Jan 2026 07:41 collapse

Mosad like ISIS take credit for everything, because it induces a paranoia in their enemies.

Pretending nobody in Iran has agency except Mosad agencies is just helping Mosad, great job.

3abas@lemmy.world on 23 Jan 2026 15:33 collapse

That’s a dumb take and it’s not at all what I said. The Iranian government is capable of shooting civilians, and the Israeli government who proudly admits having many infiltrators in Iran and has conducted a massive progranda campaign prop the Zionist shah as a (exiled when his brutal US installed dictator father was overthrown) democracy loving liberal is known for shooting toddlers in the head… To dismiss that they could be involved is… just idiotic. Good job.

DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com on 22 Jan 2026 21:15 next collapse

I know this has nothing to do with it, just trying to gauge your honesty. What is the Hannibal Directive?

jimmy90@lemmy.world on 23 Jan 2026 08:05 collapse

anti jewish racism here on lemmy

never!

Paragone@lemmy.world on 26 Jan 2026 21:44 collapse

I don’t understand how the “zionists” are able to conflate Jewishness with their ideological-rabies.

The Jews protesting “Not In My Name” are JEWS, not “zionists”.

Nobody in Israel dares protest anything, now, from what’s being posted online: fear of being targetted by the ideological witch-hunt.

2k Israeli Jews dead by Hamas in that strike, 65k dead Palestinians in … whatever they call their holocausting.

( these numbers are even worse: so I was wrong. israelpalestinetimeline.org/charts/ )

Their Jeremiah & Isaiah promise that when they do that, THEIR G-D will … torch their establishment.

Apparently they reject their own prophets, now.

Empiricism, then: wait & see, & IF Jeremiah & Isaiah are right, correction is guaranteed.

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SculptusPoe@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2026 16:54 next collapse

Israel sold weapons to Iran when Iran wasn’t their enemy and Iraq was the main danger. They would have no advantage at all in squashing the uprising there. This whole article is misdirection and misleading, playing into the hands of Iran’s despots. (Reading the article closely, which is a difficult task considering the horrible website, Iranian despots are claiming that Israel gave ammo and guns to the ones trying to revolt. That does make more sense, but the way the article is written, you can tell the whole article is propaganda for Iranian despots, because they spin it as a bad thing to help the uprising and use that kid caught in the crossfire as rage bait. )

Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca on 22 Jan 2026 17:14 next collapse

The first casualty of war is the truth. We’ll likely never know it.

ryannathans@aussie.zone on 22 Jan 2026 21:51 collapse

Where is it said Israel is stopping the uprising in Iran

AmidFuror@fedia.io on 22 Jan 2026 17:14 next collapse

I've never heard of thecradle.co, but now I know not to trust their news reporting.

Mrkawfee@lemmy.world on 23 Jan 2026 02:26 collapse

Yeah just stick with trustworthy sources on Iran like the New York Times

AmidFuror@fedia.io on 23 Jan 2026 04:03 collapse

Everyone is equally untrustworthy. All politicians lie, so Trump is really just like everyone else. North Korea and the US both violate civil rights, so they're equivalent.

flandish@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2026 17:40 next collapse

how does one look at a fired round, presumably beat to shit from impact, and trace it back to a origin? unless this is people assuming the entire round fires and have no understanding?

jumjummy@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2026 17:48 next collapse

It was a kosher bullet obviously.

demonsword@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2026 18:47 collapse

how does one look at a fired round, presumably beat to shit from impact, and trace it back to a origin?

This took 5s to find using DDG

flandish@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2026 20:08 next collapse

nice.

ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Jan 2026 20:32 next collapse

And it doesn’t answer the question. Examination of the bullet can tell you something about what kind of gun barrel it was fired from. It cannot tell you that the ammunition itself is “Israeli military grade” unless Israel is doing something unusual with the composition of their bullets. As that page says (under the Criticisms section), comparative bullet lead analysis is not necessarily a reliable indicator of where the bullet was manufactured.

I sort of think that staring at bullet striations is basically tea leaf reading, but even if you think it’s perfectly reliable, without a suspect weapon to compare to it can only tell you what kinds of gun barrels could have fired the shot.

ryannathans@aussie.zone on 22 Jan 2026 21:54 collapse

Comparing metal composition to known samples has been around since the 18th century

ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Jan 2026 21:56 collapse

Well, this is what the linked article says about it:

Prior to September 2005, comparative bullet-lead analysis was performed on bullets found at a scene that were too destroyed for striation comparison. The technique would attempt to determine the unique elemental breakdown of the bullet and compare it to seized bullets possessed by a suspect.[47] Review of the method found that the breakdown of elements found in bullets could be significantly different enough to potentially allow for two bullets from separate sources to be correlated to each other. However, there are not enough differences to definitely match a bullet from a crime scene to one taken from a suspect’s possession.[48] An additional report in 2004 from the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) found that the testimony given regarding comparative bullet-lead analysis was overstated and potentially “misleading under the federal rules of evidence”.[47] In 2005, the Federal Bureau of Investigation indicated that they would no longer be performing comparative bullet-lead analysis.[49]

RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2026 20:51 next collapse

Are you AI?

Because it took you 5s to find an incorrect answer and confidently link to a Wikipedia article, that doesn’t answer the question.

carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works on 23 Jan 2026 11:20 collapse

5 seconds of reading and critical thinking would dismiss what you linked. The posted article is for linking bullets to found guns. They didn’t seem to find the guns. Just the bullets.

Also like much of forensics, forensic tool mark and bullet mark analysis is crock full of shit. Like much forensics, attempts to ground it in robust reproducable controlled science and statistical work has fared poorly. I would not rely on it for this or really anything.

RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2026 20:50 next collapse

Israeli military-grade ammunition embedded

Lol, lmao even, as opposed to civilian-grade ammunition.

Might as well describe Lemmy as a ring of gurlerilla servers using military grade encryption run on servers with links to Israel (e.g there’s at least 1 kernel developer in Israel).

chillhelm@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2026 20:58 next collapse

So the Iranian Regime claims the children shot during the riots were shot by Israelis?

GTFO with these fake ass fake news.

kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 22 Jan 2026 20:58 next collapse

Tbf here too, IMI surplus ammo is extremely common.

carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works on 22 Jan 2026 22:21 next collapse

The chain of custody for this reporting is so rank it stinks to heaven. It seems to go IRG to TASS. The Iranian government is anything but leftist. It is not your friend.

hoch@lemmy.world on 23 Jan 2026 06:20 next collapse

Oh neat, the source in the article is a Russian state-owned news agency.

Your propaganda is not welcome here.

Mrkawfee@lemmy.world on 23 Jan 2026 11:53 collapse

Yeah its better to stick with CBS and other psyops “news” softening Americans up for regime change.

Edit: How many people will you terrorists kill on behalf of your masters in that satanic Zionist colony.

Jankatarch@lemmy.world on 23 Jan 2026 19:32 collapse

Russian news are untrustable, unlike US owned news outlets which have never once shown bias or deception on the topic of Israel. /s

Mrkawfee@lemmy.world on 23 Jan 2026 21:30 collapse

US liberal media is not afraid to tell the truth that Amerikka is a benevolent superpower that only cares about freeing people from tyranny.

NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net on 23 Jan 2026 11:39 next collapse

Fork found in kitchen

GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca on 23 Jan 2026 16:38 collapse

If America and Israel were supporting protests in hell, I would have no choice but to support the devil

Mrkawfee@lemmy.world on 23 Jan 2026 16:46 collapse

They have killed so many innocent people it boils my blood that they suddenly feign an interest in the “poor protestors” to manufacture consent for criminal air strikes and regime decapitation.

And of course liberals are there to pearl clutch about human rights and run cover for neocons as always.

GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca on 23 Jan 2026 19:08 collapse

I don’t know how so many people are still falling for this. Sure, the Iranian government isn’t exactly “good”, but they’re the only major counterbalance to the genocidal Nazi imperialists that’s left in the region.

Mrkawfee@lemmy.world on 23 Jan 2026 21:32 collapse

True. It is really something that Saudi Arabia is now getting closer to Iran when for the last decade they’ve been making overturns to get into bed with the Zionists.

Everyone in the region knows that if Iran falls then no one is safe from israel deciding one day that you have to die.

GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca on 23 Jan 2026 22:03 collapse

They have no defined borders, the most extreme among them claim the whole middle east, and they just keep getting more extreme. The progression is obvious