'Go get your own oil!' Trump tells UK the US won't 'help you anymore' in furious rant
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from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 31 Mar 12:34
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from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 31 Mar 12:34
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Donald Trump erupted at the United Kingdom Tuesday morning over its refusal to join the United States in its war against Iran, issuing the European nation a notice that the United States would no longer be offering it “help.”
“All of those countries that can’t get jet fuel because of the Strait of Hormuz, like the United Kingdom, which refused to get involved in the decapitation of Iran, I have a suggestion for you: Number 1, buy from the U.S., we have plenty, and Number 2, build up some delayed courage, go to the Strait, and just TAKE IT,” Trump wrote on his social media platform Truth Social.
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Meanwhile the UK is hosting USA bombers. Grow a pair - kick them out and close airspace until they show some gratitude.
Not if some of them can help it.
As with most developed “democracies”, the UK’s political class are too busy cashing the cheques of their corporate overlords to display any actual morals or virtue. They are bottom-feeders who only know how to bottom-feed.
e.g. opposing genocide is terrorism!
Grow a pair. Confiscate their bombers since they’re being used for genocide and land theft.
What they going to do, remove the UK from the continent?
TACO
If it’s so easy you just TAKE IT.
Is it not easy?
It’s not like Iran is a terrified 13 year old girl, they can fight back.
Grab em by the pussy.
Grab em by the petroleum
I’m beginning to think the hardest job in the entire world is Secret Service Agent. I mean, c’mon, millions of lives are at risk, you’re armed, and he’s right there. Instant hero.
True story.
My buddy used to work for NYC EMS. One day when Clinton was President his ambulance was assigned to an event. He and his partner were chatting with the police when some Secret Service agents walk by. The partner starts ranting about how much he hates the Secret Service.
One of the police asks him what the Secret Service did that was so bad?
“This bastards say they’ll jump on a grenade for the President, but not one of them jumped on Monica! God damn it, I’m willing to take a blowjob for my country!”
Because it went great for the Roman Empire when the Praetorian Guard were the ones choosing the Emperor. You don’t really want to open that door.
I mean… the first instance of that was replacing Caligula with Claudius. It just kinda went south after that.
Did Claudius also fuck couches?
Claudius wasn’t 2nd in command. He was way down the list.
And the first thing he did as emperor was execute some of the Praetorians for being overzealous when cleaning house.
There’s a difference between a military coup and a rogue secret service agent killing the fuck and turning himself in.
He’d sacrifice his life and be arrested and tried, he’d have Luigi level fanfare (though Luigi didn’t do it, obviously) and a clear conscious to help him sleep better at night in prison.
Being not a military coup, it might actually trigger the violent stage of the arguably ongoing civil war, Vance declares martial law and his children and top supporters start calling for the execution of everyone who ever condemned him as retribution.
The current collapse of the US empire is fast, but it sure as fuck can accelerate. People who think Trump dying solves all problems are heavily over indexing on him as the singular bad guy, he’s just a loud symptom of a nasty disease.
There’s a lot of rot, but they’ve been depending on a cluster of personality. Those often collapse when the personality dies without a sucessor with popular support, which requires the cult leader to groom the public to their sucessor.
The thing with Trump is he has too much ego for that, and Vance doesn’t have the loyalty of the MAGA militant.
Right, which is why they would kick it up a 100 noches. Once he’s gone, they’ll use everything in their power to remain in power, they won’t just go away silently.
Vance doesn’t have the loyalty, which is why Trump’s kids will rile them up on the idea of revenge, they won’t be fighting for cancer, they’ll be fighting for Trump “alongside” Vance.
Democrats will condemn the violence of the assassin, they’ll call for unity and give long eulogies for Trump, they’ll say it’s time to unite and denounce violence. Slowly, Vance will become the new figure head, or be replaced through a coup if unable, but the power won’t change. The coup won’t come from opposition, it’ll come from within.
History gives us plenty of cases where killing the strongman did not end the system. Caesar’s murder helped trigger civil war and an “avenge the leader” politics. history.com/…/julius-caesar-assassination-fall-ro…
Park Chung-hee’s assassination opened a succession crisis that Chun Doo-hwan used for an internal coup under martial law. en.wikipedia.org/…/1979_South_Korean_coup_d'état
Trujillo’s killing did not kill the machine, his family and loyalists tried to preserve it amid chaos. Indira Gandhi’s assassination becme a pretext for mass revenge on a broader population. history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/…/dr_d21
So yes, cult regimes are vulnerable when the central personality dies, but that vulnerability often shows up first as repression, martyrdom, and a fight inside the ruling group, not a clean collapse.
The US has tried assassination of it’s presidents twice already. No matter the lunatic in charge murdering democratically elected leaders is not the way. There are mechanisms to pursue Trump that should be used.
The SS? Clue might be in the name, there.
Turn the US into an authoritarian empire, and you risk turning the Praetorians into something similar to the Roman ones…
The problem is that the SS is staffed with people who think Trump is the good guy. Lots and lots of “patriotic” Mormons.
I’m so tired
Do it yourself idiot! 🤮 🤡
But USA can’t, and if they try they will just be further humiliated.
Maybe Trump thinks the military is refusing his orders, so he wants UK to do it for him instead.
The man is insane and has dementia on top of that. Congratulations to the Americans that elected him, you are the laughing stock of the world, especially those that want to harm USA.
If Steiner attacks, everything will be all right.
Trump started this shit and he should finish it (but sadly, he cannot).
He should cut his losses and go cry in a corner.
I would also accept crying his losses and cutting himself in a corner (though a trial for treason and a public hanging would be ideal)
Iran is so angry that the only thing ending the war any time soon is reparations.
Think that’s what he’s doing. Though, Trump’s version of “cry” is actually “blame everyone else, sulk, and act like he’s on the high road”. It takes the maturity of an infant to actually cry, Trump can’t even manage that
Or more likely lash out like a drowning man, grab anybody that comes too close and try to climb out on their backs in a wild panic while pushing the wannabe rescuer below the waves. Most know this and stay away.
He should absolutely not finish it.
WTF kind of idea is that? He started killing random people so he must kill all of them?
I’m no mapologist, but getting oil from the straight of Hormuz to the UK seems like an incredibly long way around. Surely the UK gets their oil from elsewhere?
In a way it doesn’t matter who gets their oil from where.
Whoever was getting oil from Hormuz, is now getting it from wherever the UK was.
Yeah, that’s a problem for sure. But also means that securing Hormuz doesn’t solve anything, because tomorrow the pedo will invade some other oil critical country. Can’t exactly plan around a lunatic.
Obviously, it will be better for everyone if oil is moving through the Strait.
Actually it’s best if we focus on reducing carbon emmitting energy source usage. High oil prices make that easier.
Or you know… do both?
The Hormuz situation is about to precipitate a financial crisis the likes of which we have never seen.
We can’t avoid it by all buying EVs.
Suez canal
Still a long way given Norway (and the rest of the north sea oilfields) is right next door.
US and Norway according to this
You would not believe how stupid and outdated the infrastructure is in that region.
Everyone just grabs the money.
My understanding (and I am not an expert) is that it “kinda doesn’t matter” since you’re just sending out trains of huge tankers. The throughput is maintained even if the latency is increased. There is extra cost to taking a longer route to be sure, but it’s been optimized for cost to the point where markets don’t even take a big hit when ships go all the way around Africa instead.
Trump: “Go to the strait and just take it” Spain: “OK.” Trump: “WAIT NO NOT LIKE THAT”
Uhm…turns out…the green transition was a core security policy. That is why maga, russia, gulf countries were against it…
So the US has more naval power than the whole of Europe together, and they need help fixing the mess they started?
What a boorish sack of shit, Jesus Christ, dealing with that man on a daily basis must be fucking exhausting.
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Yes, but only for people with functioning brains
hey, I’m a certified idiot and even I can’t take any more of this! I have these primal instincts of trying to stay alive and reproduce, and I find that my chances at both are highly correlated with being decent to the other members of my race (humans, I mean). No brain, no problem!
… it’s a sliding scale
You and I are likely on the same category, yet compared to MAGA, we are basically geniuses
Guess where the UK gets their oil from?
This rant is extra ignorant with a cherry on top.
The UK already gets most of its oil from the US and Norway (sauce)
The Orange Child Rapist apparently did not know oil is a global commodity and therefore all/most oil cost the same around the world. I guess he figured if the USA did not get oil from Iran, US Oil was not going up in price?
What an embarrassment of a country to have this pustule of a person as president (elected twice!)
The art of the deal guy didn’t understand opportunism in pricing? If they’re charging more, we can charge more.
Supreme leader trump hs declared that to protect capitalism domestic oil producers are restricted from selling on the global market.
Patriots must sell oil only to the homeland and forego the global markets.
CPAC has burst into chants of USA USA and free market analysts on Fox News are calling this an obvious win.
Comrades, trump has said if any privately owned oil fields produce oil for export he may have to seize the means of production. Truly a new golden age is upon us.
If the USA isn’t going to participate in the global oil market then there’s no reason for the global oil market to use US currency.
And just like with Venezuela the Oil Motive for war becomes obvious. Greedy old dumbass dinosaurs still think oil is worth killing for instead of working on the many alternatives that we have already available.
I broke it, you fix it.
Lol grandpa is triggering himself. What a stable genius
I mean, same should be said about Trump’s son.
“We have plenty”
that we stole from VenezuelaFunny to think that the UK thought one of the advantages of Brexit was that the USA and the UK could now finally get as close as they wanted without the interference of the EU.
There’s plenty of leopards for everyone!
But we have plenty of oil. Middle Eastern oil accounts for barely 2%.
That’s the correct speech. He’s preparing to abandon Israel alone at the war.
Hopefully this unites the Arab world against Isreal again, they have been bought off by the US for awhile but it’s time for a good Ole fashioned jihad.
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Ok, he may be only trying to mislead people and manipulate stock markets too.
But that’s the speech he’d use if he was intending to go away and abandon the war.
Israel will do a false flag “Iranian” terrorist attack, or release more Epstein files before they let him just walk away.
He’s so incredibly stupid; honestly the biggest moron I’ve ever seen in any government.
He started this war, he didn’t think it through - it was well known attacking Iran would lead to them closing the strait of hormuz, and it would be extremely difficult to open it without a ground invasion. Israel has wanted to go after Iran for decades but every US president had common sense and said no. Trump has done what no President has ever done. The US allies are not stupid enough to be drawn into the this pointless war as it’s unwinnable.
Now this so-called “business man” doesn’t even know how global markets work. You remove 20% of the oil supply, then prices go up because demand goes up - you still have 100% of demand. The US isn’t protected from that as a net shale oil/gas exporter.
First: everyone in the world is bidding for oil and gas supplies so it goes to the highest bidder; thats how a market works - everyone ends up paying more including americans. Second: the US is a net exporter but it also imports a lot of gas and oil. It’s exports are driven by Liquid Natural Gas. But it imports Crude Oil, because it can’t produce enough of that for domestic demand. Third: As energy prices go up, you get “demand destruction”. In other words, some activities are no longer economical as the price of oil and gas is too high and obliterates profits. That means the global economy goes into decline - a recession. And the US is in no way insulated from that - it is totally integrated into the global economy.
Trump has fucked over the US, allies like the UK, Canada and EU and the rest of the world. This isn’t his allies’ war, and they’re not getting involved - it’s politically toxic and it’d just escalate this mess. Trump can get frustrated at the mess he’s made and lash out as much as he wants, but he can’t get away from this mess. He has two choices and both are shit: Invade Iran with troops or admit defeat and cave into the Iran’s demands. I suspect he will cave in and try and spin this as a “victory”.
Sounds exactly like what his admin did with PPE during COVID.
Except now the whole planet is stuck essentially Ebaying for essentials or paying Iran’s tolls.
Yup. Same thing happened when Russia invaded Ukraine. The US got a negligible amount of oil from Russia and prices still spiked. Gas and oil are global commodities.
Small correction: US consumers and businesses will be hit. The US oil & methane gas industry and their billionaires will pump out as much as they possibly can and sell to the highest bidder at ridiculous prices.
And there as many, many times before, we have one of the biggest reasons for this war.
Is it stupid? Yes it’s still stupid. But the better question is: is it evil? Even more so than you already thought.
Once again the “most powerful military on earth” has to beg for help to defeat a single rogue state, and throws a tantrum when they don’t get it.
He’ll be never see it, but.. get fucked you orange faced cunt.
The Brits supplying the British airfield from which US heavy bombers take off:
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That’s on them for continuing to do it!
All friendships burned, all choices burning themselves, digging their own grave deeper and deeper. Total collapse is inevitable.
Remember all those Hollywood productions about post apocalypse worlds, only showing the US? I always wondered how the rest of the world would be. I guess just normal, it’s just the US being a post apocalypse hell hole.
And Trump did all of that just to try to distract everyone from him being a pedo sex offender buddy of Epstein.
Well that, and the footage they got of him decades ago in Moscow when he tried to get his businesses up over there. Golden showers and whatnot they say. By now it should be obvious to everyone what his assignment is: Final blow in the divide and conquer scheme that has been running in US since the soviet days. Social media and of course China joining the cause behind the curtains really gave this campaign a big boost.
Good. Trump’s “helping” hand is covered in blood and shit.
We (the UK) don’t need oil from the Strait of Hormuz. Most of that goes to Asian countries.
They’re far more likely just to pay Iran a nominal amount to keep it flowing.
The UK actually imports more from the US than anywhere else. We should stop propping up tinpot regimes, and buy from local friendly countries, or better still, just use a lot less of it.
They weren’t helping anyone else before.
At best, they were helping themselves (mostly) without actively interfering with others ability to do the same.