Worst case scenario he tries to steal the election, fails, tries to Maduro his way out of it and then asks tramp and putain for military help against the big bad EU.
You think el douchbagger in chief over here could make the difference somehow if orban steals it? The EU did pretty much surrender on about everything so far in truth. And is more concerned with bringing in the trojan horses (redesigned as trojan sheep) of chatcontrol and age checks behind the wall of liberal democracy, which is surrendering their constituents to tech. To Thiel and his ilk.
It is a lot more fucked that we realize. A lot more. I don’t trust they would defend the honest vote of hungary to nike (greek victory).
Frankly, I don’t see why sending funds requires unanimous EU approval. Hungary wasn’t even contributing, based on the article:
Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic approved the idea with the crucial caveat that they did not have to contribute to the loan.
So I’d expect that any group of countries that do want to send funds could do so absent Hungary without even affecting the total commitment.
Sanctions on goods out of Russia or something, sure. The EU controls what gets into the EU at the customs border. You have to have an EU-level decision, or goods can enter via another EU member and then there’s no control of the flow of goods internal to the EU. The EU structure doesn’t permit for that to be done below the EU level.
But I don’t believe that there’s any intrinsic reason that Hungary need sign off on funds going to Ukraine, assuming that other countries honestly do want to send that money. A country can send funds wherever it wants, on an individual or collective basis.
Of course any country can send whatever help they want.
The point of this agreement within EU, is that it is an EU decision that guarantees Ukraine enough money to sustain the war.
If each country does it individually, it can be blocked similarly within each country’s parliament.
And no single country would realistically guarantee Ukraine this kind of money.
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz
on 20 Mar 03:11
nextcollapse
Is it betrayal if he was never on their side though?
They had an agreement that Hungary wouldn’t block it, for instance Hungary was not participating in paying.
So yes Hungary is betraying their word and the agreement they accepted.
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Bets Vance told him not to go in on the deal?
He was into this kind of stuff way before Vance pulled his dick out from between those couch cheeks
I’m pretty sure Hungary is still salty that Ukraine blew up their oil supply
He should be out of office soon. Last I heard.
Worst case scenario he tries to steal the election, fails, tries to Maduro his way out of it and then asks tramp and putain for military help against the big bad EU.
You think el douchbagger in chief over here could make the difference somehow if orban steals it? The EU did pretty much surrender on about everything so far in truth. And is more concerned with bringing in the trojan horses (redesigned as trojan sheep) of chatcontrol and age checks behind the wall of liberal democracy, which is surrendering their constituents to tech. To Thiel and his ilk.
It is a lot more fucked that we realize. A lot more. I don’t trust they would defend the honest vote of hungary to nike (greek victory).
The country folk there are very pro orban. And there is lots of active brainwashing going on.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he wins with a majority everywhere outside Budapest
Frankly, I don’t see why sending funds requires unanimous EU approval. Hungary wasn’t even contributing, based on the article:
So I’d expect that any group of countries that do want to send funds could do so absent Hungary without even affecting the total commitment.
Sanctions on goods out of Russia or something, sure. The EU controls what gets into the EU at the customs border. You have to have an EU-level decision, or goods can enter via another EU member and then there’s no control of the flow of goods internal to the EU. The EU structure doesn’t permit for that to be done below the EU level.
But I don’t believe that there’s any intrinsic reason that Hungary need sign off on funds going to Ukraine, assuming that other countries honestly do want to send that money. A country can send funds wherever it wants, on an individual or collective basis.
Of course any country can send whatever help they want.
The point of this agreement within EU, is that it is an EU decision that guarantees Ukraine enough money to sustain the war.
If each country does it individually, it can be blocked similarly within each country’s parliament.
And no single country would realistically guarantee Ukraine this kind of money.
Is it betrayal if he was never on their side though?
They had an agreement that Hungary wouldn’t block it, for instance Hungary was not participating in paying.
So yes Hungary is betraying their word and the agreement they accepted.
Basically the tides are turning against Orban in Hungary so now he’s becoming desperate.
The US has southern states, I guess the EU has Hungary.