itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world
on 11 Jun 12:26
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After Starmer, what’s left of trust in Labour or its leaders?
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
on 11 Jun 15:46
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I think Andy is a good display of why Kier isn’t the problem, Andy has more rizz but he largely holds the same positions as Kier if a tiny bit bolder.
The real problem is without a left-pole the center-left just collapsed into right-lite and that doesn’t really motivate people to get involved in the party beyond voting.
I’m not sure it’s really solvable without a better voting system and labor is stuck straddling votes of the center-left and trying to get left voters, so it tends to drag down parties (Democracts would be another good example), whereas in countries with better elections the actual-left can sit outside of the party and you can form a coalition, but that requires being able to compromise with parties to your left (Spain/Portugal/etc)
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After Starmer, what’s left of trust in Labour or its leaders?
I think Andy is a good display of why Kier isn’t the problem, Andy has more rizz but he largely holds the same positions as Kier if a tiny bit bolder.
The real problem is without a left-pole the center-left just collapsed into right-lite and that doesn’t really motivate people to get involved in the party beyond voting.
I’m not sure it’s really solvable without a better voting system and labor is stuck straddling votes of the center-left and trying to get left voters, so it tends to drag down parties (Democracts would be another good example), whereas in countries with better elections the actual-left can sit outside of the party and you can form a coalition, but that requires being able to compromise with parties to your left (Spain/Portugal/etc)
“King” hahahaha… after a stream of months old PMs, the importance of the office is completely diluted
It would be more appropriate to call him “Intern of the North”