NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
on 08 Oct 13:50
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Don’t worry, they’ll fix that by bombing them directly, fixing that pesky living habit they have, so they don’t have to worry about dying of cancer. It’s really a service when you think about it /s
Yeah, it’s probably way down the list of shit they have to worry about right now. There’s bombing, snipers, starvation, lack of potable water and polio that will kill you way before the asbestos gets you.
idunnololz@lemmy.world
on 08 Oct 16:08
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Ohhh I see. Israel is just helping Gaza demolish their old and aging builds so they can build newer, better ones! /s
I admit, first time I read that headline I was like, “WHAT? Israel adding Asbestos to their bombs now? How sinister. What’s next - radon?” It took a minute to get up to speed.
beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 08 Oct 15:02
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Same. Per the article, the structures being destroyed have asbestos in them from when they were built; this is the cause of it being released
Edit: I’ve never before seen a comment like the reply to mine here below that was so clearly made by an AI bot
Asbestos is a massive curse that the world should never have been put into their buildings. There are tons of buildings all over the world that still have asbestos in them.
It has great material properties aside from, you know, destroying people’s lungs. So I can understand why the world was eager to use it before understanding the risks.
The ancient Romans made it a point to not buy slaves from the asbestos mines due to their poor health, it has been known for far too long that asbestos is harmful. It also happens to be insanely useful.
Well, my second thought was, “that’s pretty short-sighted if you’re gonna Zionist all over the destroyed area… why would you introduce a carcinogen when…” and by then it clicked. The zionists don’t want carcinogens either, but explosively spreading existing asbestos is the price they’re willing to pay for genocide.
Why did they build their buildings with aspestoes?
cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world
on 08 Oct 14:19
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At one point, it was thought to be very safe because of its fire resistance, treated as a miracle material. many buildings throughout the world were made with asbestos, and many still exists.
for the most part it is only harmful when disturbed, either when mining and processing, or when destroyed.
If you are in a building anywhere in the world that was built before the 70’s/80’s, there is a very high chance it’s got asbestos in it. They used it for everything because it’s cheap and durable and has useful properties. Similar to things like lead paint.
CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world
on 08 Oct 16:41
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IIRC, the only problem with asbestos is when you tear up/demolish a building. Injested asbestos particles cause the health problems. If the building doesn’t suffer any damage, the asbestos remains inert and doesn’t cause any harm.
That is mostly true—many of the products that contain it count as having it encapsulated, so you can leave asbestos tile on a slab and cover it with another material. However if you go to demo the tile, and start hitting it with hammer drills etc. as a frangible material it can become aerosolized and be inhaled in the lungs, where you get the horrible health effects, so you have to follow remediation protocols to do that. Obviously hitting those types of materials with explosives is going to virtually guarantee try st it gets airborne.
That said there were many applications of asbestos, like old wrapped pipe insulation for instance, where the asbestos is already in a spun (think like fiberglass or rock wool) format, and those types of things need to be remediated just for existing as they are hazardous and can leach particles into your environment easily.
Edit: have to add, that I was completely flabbergasted by that, because I thought asbestos was completely illegal like FCKW (sorry, not English native speaker, seems the abbreviation is CFC - the stuff we put into refrigerators before we figured it produces an ozone hole)
Russia mining companies say though, that their asbestos is safe and it’s just western propaganda to keep them out of business)
mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
on 08 Oct 15:14
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People didn’t know better decades ago. Same as in US.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
on 08 Oct 15:24
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Because asbestos is fucking awesome. Which made everyone overlook its little inconvenients annoyances.
Omnificer@lemmy.world
on 08 Oct 15:34
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I think you’ll be surprised at how much asbestos is still used worldwide, including in the US. We’re not using it as wall and ceiling insulation anymore, but it’s still used for things like pipes and vinyl floor tiles.
How nice of Israel to help dismantle all those dangerous old asbestos filled buildings for them.
index@sh.itjust.works
on 08 Oct 17:45
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This is the sort of collateral damage nobody talks about. Even for these cheering at the bombing of terrorists, you still have to take into account the consequences of your actions, bombing everything to dust has a price.
The people claiming to cheer at bombing terrorists cheer at murdering brown people. The entire “war on terror” narrative has been a veil and continues to be a veil for white supremacists to enjoy murdering brown people.
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
on 08 Oct 19:21
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Israel also was heavily backing the war in Iraq. While they weren’t the sole or even main factor behind it, the resulting nearly 1 million Iraqi deaths the complete destruction of the country, and the subsequent Syrian Civil War (which was a direct consequence of the Iraq war) really destabilized the region big time.
Israel wants their neighbors to be as unstable as possible because stable and prosperous Arab nations piss them off.
Jordan is practically their ally yet they speak of Jordanians like they are foaming at the mouth to kill israelis when every Jordanian/Israeli skirmish was provoked very blatantly by Israel.
I simply cannot believe just how monstrous a people can be. They are entirely on par with the Nazis. In some cases even worse.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist at all, and there’s more than enough evil shit with irrefutable evidence that puts Zionists on par with the Nazis already but it just makes sense at this point that they were the ones pulling the strings to make 9/11 happen.
WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 09 Oct 11:42
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I do not believe that they were behind 9/11. Despite what some people say, the CIA and FBI and other agencies were aware something was going down. The fact that 9/11 happened without a hitch from the authorities is a monumental intelligence failure that will never be forgotten by any intelligence agency ever.
Shortly after 9/11 there were claims that Muslims were singing and dancing in the streets to celebrate. But this never happened. Even people in Iran held vigils for the people who died. The footage shown of Arabs celebrating were often of people celebrating sports victories by their preferred football (soccer) or other events.
The only people confirmed to have been dancing to celebrate the 9/11 attacks were… mossad agents. But I believe their disgusting joy can be explained by the fact that the US was now going to do genocide level events on Muslims in retaliation.
I mean Churchill cranked open his favorite (and most expensive) bottle of booze after Pearl Harbor happened and after Hitler idiotically declared war on the US. He wasn’t happy that the US lost a fuckload of people in the attack. He was happy that now the US is forced to join the UK in full force.
Well, being antisemitic and supporting Israel can go hand in hand. Be it because they share the idea of ethnically homogenous nations, because they want to send the Jews to live somewhere else, or because they are happy for Israel to murder Arabs for them.
Some of the greatest supporters of Zionism were antisemites, like Lord Balfur.
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
on 08 Oct 19:13
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Every last one of those IDF crooks involved in this needs to be hanged for this crime.
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Don’t worry, they’ll fix that by bombing them directly, fixing that pesky living habit they have, so they don’t have to worry about dying of cancer. It’s really a service when you think about it /s
Yeah, it’s probably way down the list of shit they have to worry about right now. There’s bombing, snipers, starvation, lack of potable water and polio that will kill you way before the asbestos gets you.
Ohhh I see. Israel is just helping Gaza demolish their old and aging builds so they can build newer, better ones! /s
Why the half measures? The should just nuke them outright so that all that asbestos becomes safe by turning into glass.
I think they cannot due to close approximately with their own cities. Otherwise they would have done it way back.
I admit, first time I read that headline I was like, “WHAT? Israel adding Asbestos to their bombs now? How sinister. What’s next - radon?” It took a minute to get up to speed.
Same. Per the article, the structures being destroyed have asbestos in them from when they were built; this is the cause of it being released
Edit: I’ve never before seen a comment like the reply to mine here below that was so clearly made by an AI bot
Asbestos is a massive curse that the world should never have been put into their buildings. There are tons of buildings all over the world that still have asbestos in them.
It has great material properties aside from, you know, destroying people’s lungs. So I can understand why the world was eager to use it before understanding the risks.
The ancient Romans made it a point to not buy slaves from the asbestos mines due to their poor health, it has been known for far too long that asbestos is harmful. It also happens to be insanely useful.
The ancient Romans used asbestos?
Edit: damn, it has been used since forever…
www.unrv.com/economy/asbestos.php
I am aware of its incredible fireproofing ability. Also it is one of the few, if only, minerals that can be woven into fabric.
I wouldn’t have put it past them.
Me too - wouldn’t put it past them, Israel is disgusting enough to sink to that level.
I mean… the effect is the same. The buildings didn’t explode themselves.
Well, my second thought was, “that’s pretty short-sighted if you’re gonna Zionist all over the destroyed area… why would you introduce a carcinogen when…” and by then it clicked. The zionists don’t want carcinogens either, but explosively spreading existing asbestos is the price they’re willing to pay for genocide.
Yeah the problem is the building material used. The headline had me confused as fuck too.
Why did they build their buildings with aspestoes?
At one point, it was thought to be very safe because of its fire resistance, treated as a miracle material. many buildings throughout the world were made with asbestos, and many still exists.
for the most part it is only harmful when disturbed, either when mining and processing, or when destroyed.
And even then, it would likely have to be repeated occupational exposure to cause issues, not a one-off dust event.
This isn’t cyanide or something
problem is you can get a deadly exposure and not realize at the time, because it will take 20 years until the effects destroy your lungs.
Because besides the pesky cancer side effect, it’s an incredible building material.
If you are in a building anywhere in the world that was built before the 70’s/80’s, there is a very high chance it’s got asbestos in it. They used it for everything because it’s cheap and durable and has useful properties. Similar to things like lead paint.
IIRC, the only problem with asbestos is when you tear up/demolish a building. Injested asbestos particles cause the health problems. If the building doesn’t suffer any damage, the asbestos remains inert and doesn’t cause any harm.
That is mostly true—many of the products that contain it count as having it encapsulated, so you can leave asbestos tile on a slab and cover it with another material. However if you go to demo the tile, and start hitting it with hammer drills etc. as a frangible material it can become aerosolized and be inhaled in the lungs, where you get the horrible health effects, so you have to follow remediation protocols to do that. Obviously hitting those types of materials with explosives is going to virtually guarantee try st it gets airborne.
That said there were many applications of asbestos, like old wrapped pipe insulation for instance, where the asbestos is already in a spun (think like fiberglass or rock wool) format, and those types of things need to be remediated just for existing as they are hazardous and can leach particles into your environment easily.
Russia still is the largest exporter of asbestos in the world and is still used in large parts of the world
www.asbestos.com/mesothelioma/worldwide/
Edit: have to add, that I was completely flabbergasted by that, because I thought asbestos was completely illegal like FCKW (sorry, not English native speaker, seems the abbreviation is CFC - the stuff we put into refrigerators before we figured it produces an ozone hole)
Russia mining companies say though, that their asbestos is safe and it’s just western propaganda to keep them out of business)
People didn’t know better decades ago. Same as in US.
Because asbestos is fucking awesome. Which made everyone overlook its little
inconvenientsannoyances.I think you’ll be surprised at how much asbestos is still used worldwide, including in the US. We’re not using it as wall and ceiling insulation anymore, but it’s still used for things like pipes and vinyl floor tiles.
Because some people didn’t expect an Israeli Inquisition
How nice of Israel to help dismantle all those dangerous old asbestos filled buildings for them.
This is the sort of collateral damage nobody talks about. Even for these cheering at the bombing of terrorists, you still have to take into account the consequences of your actions, bombing everything to dust has a price.
The people claiming to cheer at bombing terrorists cheer at murdering brown people. The entire “war on terror” narrative has been a veil and continues to be a veil for white supremacists to enjoy murdering brown people.
Israel also was heavily backing the war in Iraq. While they weren’t the sole or even main factor behind it, the resulting nearly 1 million Iraqi deaths the complete destruction of the country, and the subsequent Syrian Civil War (which was a direct consequence of the Iraq war) really destabilized the region big time.
Israel wants their neighbors to be as unstable as possible because stable and prosperous Arab nations piss them off.
Jordan is practically their ally yet they speak of Jordanians like they are foaming at the mouth to kill israelis when every Jordanian/Israeli skirmish was provoked very blatantly by Israel.
I simply cannot believe just how monstrous a people can be. They are entirely on par with the Nazis. In some cases even worse.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist at all, and there’s more than enough evil shit with irrefutable evidence that puts Zionists on par with the Nazis already but it just makes sense at this point that they were the ones pulling the strings to make 9/11 happen.
Please explain.
Just simply asking the question of who gained the most from the aftermath of 9/11.
And looking at their current behaviour. There’s absolutely no evil act they won’t commit.
I do not believe that they were behind 9/11. Despite what some people say, the CIA and FBI and other agencies were aware something was going down. The fact that 9/11 happened without a hitch from the authorities is a monumental intelligence failure that will never be forgotten by any intelligence agency ever.
Shortly after 9/11 there were claims that Muslims were singing and dancing in the streets to celebrate. But this never happened. Even people in Iran held vigils for the people who died. The footage shown of Arabs celebrating were often of people celebrating sports victories by their preferred football (soccer) or other events.
The only people confirmed to have been dancing to celebrate the 9/11 attacks were… mossad agents. But I believe their disgusting joy can be explained by the fact that the US was now going to do genocide level events on Muslims in retaliation.
I mean Churchill cranked open his favorite (and most expensive) bottle of booze after Pearl Harbor happened and after Hitler idiotically declared war on the US. He wasn’t happy that the US lost a fuckload of people in the attack. He was happy that now the US is forced to join the UK in full force.
This may surprise you, but “white supremacists” 🙄 Aren’t all that fond of the jews, regardless of their skin tone.
Well, being antisemitic and supporting Israel can go hand in hand. Be it because they share the idea of ethnically homogenous nations, because they want to send the Jews to live somewhere else, or because they are happy for Israel to murder Arabs for them.
Some of the greatest supporters of Zionism were antisemites, like Lord Balfur.
Every last one of those IDF crooks involved in this needs to be hanged for this crime.
Dont be so violent
They would be better put to use doing manual labor rebuilding Gaza and Beirut after conviction
OK, hang the higher ups, make the grunts do the grunt work.
Don’t give them the opportunity to sabotage.
Is there any justification for this? Is it still about Hamas now?
Was it ever just about Hamas? Or could the desire to get that waterfront land and remove more of those “people” be at the heart of it all
It’s okay, I hear that asbestos got a bad rap and the movement against it was run by the mob.
motherjones.com/…/the-trump-files-asbestos-mob-co…
But it’s “100 percent safe, once applied.”
New campaign slogan:
Trump for cancer 2024
I apply it directly to my nuts constantly