BombOmOm@lemmy.world
on 17 Jan 2024 16:40
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The US needs to get a Ukraine lethal aid bill passed. It has been bogged down too long. Funding American companies, to pay workers good wages, to create arms for Ukraine to blow up the invader is a win-win-win.
Theprogressivist@lemmy.world
on 17 Jan 2024 16:42
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Yup, a la FDR.
TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
on 17 Jan 2024 17:01
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Republicans are bought and sold to Putin via the NRA and the RNC server being hacked in 2016. It’s not going to happen.
Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
on 17 Jan 2024 17:05
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Congressional leaders and the President should be talking about that right about now.
maness300@lemmy.world
on 18 Jan 2024 11:28
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Israel comes first.
They need US support to commit their genocide against a much weaker military.
Ukraine will just have to get by because checks notes, Israel’s sovereignty is better for the world than Ukraine’s.
What a shitty world we’ve built for ourselves.
TacoBellAbuser87@lemmy.today
on 17 Jan 2024 17:02
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Why? They’re winning already
AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world
on 17 Jan 2024 17:09
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Russian has access to nuclear and other “illegal” weapons. The use of these weapons are generally agreed to be illegal because they are not limited to the target they are fired at. Russia has indicated in the past they are considering nuclear and other chemical weapons in Ukraine. Assuming that those in power know more than we do would indicate an increased fear of a new or illegal weapon about to be used.
AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world
on 17 Jan 2024 17:09
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Russian has access to nuclear and other “illegal” weapons. The use of these weapons are generally agreed to be illegal because they are not limited to the target they are fired at. Russia has indicated in the past they are considering nuclear and other chemical weapons in Ukraine. Assuming that those in power know more than we do would indicate an increased fear of a new or illegal weapon about to be used.
Theprogressivist@lemmy.world
on 17 Jan 2024 17:09
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What’s your point?
TacoBellAbuser87@lemmy.today
on 17 Jan 2024 17:26
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If you are totally dominating this war, you don’t need extra help…
Theprogressivist@lemmy.world
on 17 Jan 2024 17:32
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Thanks for the armchair analysis there, general. Clearly, you know nothing.
TacoBellAbuser87@lemmy.today
on 17 Jan 2024 17:36
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Russia is using cold war weapons and ancient tanks, you are just beating a dead horse
Theprogressivist@lemmy.world
on 17 Jan 2024 17:38
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Good. No quarter.
TacoBellAbuser87@lemmy.today
on 17 Jan 2024 17:54
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Ukraine is totally obliterating Russia even without our weapons.
Theprogressivist@lemmy.world
on 17 Jan 2024 17:57
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Cool.
TacoBellAbuser87@lemmy.today
on 17 Jan 2024 18:13
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Yep
mo_ztt@lemmy.world
on 17 Jan 2024 17:39
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Not since late last year they’re not. They spent early 2023 winning back the north of the country, then had a summer counteroffensive which captured essentially 0 of the East, then over winter they got nothing in terms of the ammunition and weapons aid they’d need to have to fight against an opponent which can outproduce them 20:1. They’re now desperately trying to hold the front line even though after 3 months of nothing they’re basically out of ammunition.
The big aid packages out of the US and EU are stalled apparently indefinitely. There’s that little package from the UK which hopefully will help a little, but unless the GOP stops being compromised by Russia sometime soon, it seems like they might be in real trouble.
StinkyOnions@lemmy.world
on 17 Jan 2024 17:56
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maness300@lemmy.world
on 18 Jan 2024 11:31
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It’s so fucking dumb that Ukrainians didn’t mine their border out of fear that it would look bad on the world stage.
They really got played for fools by the people who now withhold help from them.
Remember when they were promised protection for de-nuclearization? I bet they feel pretty stupid now for getting rid of nukes and not setting up robust border defenses.
Hopefully, we can remember this and cite it in the future whenever a nation is in a similar position.
just_change_it@lemmy.world
on 17 Jan 2024 17:28
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Does this mean Biden is positioning to enter the Ukraine war? Would probably help his numbers in the upcoming election against Trump.
HuddaBudda@kbin.social
on 17 Jan 2024 18:04
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Over two days of talks in Brussels, NATO’s top officers are expected to detail plans for what are set to be the biggest military exercises in Europe since the Cold War later this year.
While I understand the importance of showing might, this was a bit underwhelming compared to the tile of "NATO top officers schedule war game."
These things happen a lot more then people realize.
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The US needs to get a Ukraine lethal aid bill passed. It has been bogged down too long. Funding American companies, to pay workers good wages, to create arms for Ukraine to blow up the invader is a win-win-win.
Yup, a la FDR.
Republicans are bought and sold to Putin via the NRA and the RNC server being hacked in 2016. It’s not going to happen.
Congressional leaders and the President should be talking about that right about now.
Israel comes first.
They need US support to commit their genocide against a much weaker military.
Ukraine will just have to get by because checks notes, Israel’s sovereignty is better for the world than Ukraine’s.
What a shitty world we’ve built for ourselves.
Why? They’re winning already
Russian has access to nuclear and other “illegal” weapons. The use of these weapons are generally agreed to be illegal because they are not limited to the target they are fired at. Russia has indicated in the past they are considering nuclear and other chemical weapons in Ukraine. Assuming that those in power know more than we do would indicate an increased fear of a new or illegal weapon about to be used.
Russian has access to nuclear and other “illegal” weapons. The use of these weapons are generally agreed to be illegal because they are not limited to the target they are fired at. Russia has indicated in the past they are considering nuclear and other chemical weapons in Ukraine. Assuming that those in power know more than we do would indicate an increased fear of a new or illegal weapon about to be used.
What’s your point?
If you are totally dominating this war, you don’t need extra help…
Thanks for the armchair analysis there, general. Clearly, you know nothing.
Russia is using cold war weapons and ancient tanks, you are just beating a dead horse
Good. No quarter.
Ukraine is totally obliterating Russia even without our weapons.
Cool.
Yep
Not since late last year they’re not. They spent early 2023 winning back the north of the country, then had a summer counteroffensive which captured essentially 0 of the East, then over winter they got nothing in terms of the ammunition and weapons aid they’d need to have to fight against an opponent which can outproduce them 20:1. They’re now desperately trying to hold the front line even though after 3 months of nothing they’re basically out of ammunition.
The big aid packages out of the US and EU are stalled apparently indefinitely. There’s that little package from the UK which hopefully will help a little, but unless the GOP stops being compromised by Russia sometime soon, it seems like they might be in real trouble.
Non-paywall link to the article mo_ztt is referring to: ghostarchive.org/archive/GZYwY
It’s so fucking dumb that Ukrainians didn’t mine their border out of fear that it would look bad on the world stage.
They really got played for fools by the people who now withhold help from them.
Remember when they were promised protection for de-nuclearization? I bet they feel pretty stupid now for getting rid of nukes and not setting up robust border defenses.
Hopefully, we can remember this and cite it in the future whenever a nation is in a similar position.
Does this mean Biden is positioning to enter the Ukraine war? Would probably help his numbers in the upcoming election against Trump.
While I understand the importance of showing might, this was a bit underwhelming compared to the tile of "NATO top officers schedule war game."
These things happen a lot more then people realize.