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The Biden administration has given up on ceasefire talks after first proposing a deal for a 21-day ceasefire between Hezbollah and Israel just two weeks ago, CNN reports, citing U.S. officials. The U.S. is “not actively trying to revive the deal,” the outlet wrote.
Two weeks ago, CNN reported that senior U.S. officials have also suspended efforts for ceasefire negotiations between Israel and Hamas amid Israel’s genocide in Gaza. Officials said the effort isn’t totally canceled but admitted there is no political will for a ceasefire to happen; though officials blamed Hamas and Israel, Israeli officials have been openly sabotaging ceasefire negotiations, while Hamas officials have voiced support for numerous ceasefire proposals.
Though officials are admitting to the suspension of ceasefire talks in private, however, in public, officials are still claiming that the administration is pushing for a ceasefire. Just on Monday, in a statement recognizing the anniversary of the October 7, 2023, attack, President Joe Biden insinuated that talks are ongoing.
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I really hate that the administration is doubling down on one of Biden’s most unpopular (2021) (2024) positions. This feels like exact opposite of what they should do to gain more support in swing states for the election when it comes to foreign policy.
I see what you mean but an article from 3 years ago is basically worthless in this conversation.
Good point, I added a recent one from September 2024
not necessarily if it shows that it has been that way for years. but yeah, it’s better now that it has the newer article
This is his most unpopular position? Maybe to far leftists, but the article you linked relating to 2024 numbers says this:
Twice as many adults under 30 as those 65 and older think the US must stop supporting Israel’s war in Gaza (23% vs. 11%).
Twice as many adults 65 and older as those under 30 think the US must support Israel’s war unconditionally (26% vs. 13%).
Now I’m not saying that 23% of the population is insignificant, but that’s not 23% of the overall population, but only the sub 30 population, the population most likely to support Gaza over Israel in the first place. Based on the data, the overwhelming majority of people (77-89% depending on demographic) don’t give a shit if Biden supports Israel, and a good portion of those thinks that not only should Biden support Israel, but he should so so unconditionally.
Now I’m not making an statements about who’s right or wrong insofar as policy is concerned with the Israeli genocide, but what I’m saying is that the vast majority of people outside of your echo chamber (sadly) do not give a shit, even if they should.
Pluralities across all age groups think the United States must make its support for Israel’s war effort conditional on reaching a ceasefire, with adults under 30 the most likely to think so. There is certainly a generational divide, but I think you’re misinterpreting the data if you think 77-89% don’t care.
Here are 3 other polls, 2 from May and another from Nov 2024. The last one is the one I initially linked. I’ve screen capped graphs from the polls within the spoilers
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> In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withhold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they’d be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they’d be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely. <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6e9cc08e-f3d0-4890-aac2-b1083c960c66.jpeg"> <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/be7337d9-c268-4259-a67e-12b213723e58.jpeg">
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<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/25266a51-d7c1-4651-b688-39307a65d2ff.png"> <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5035196a-eab3-4aab-bf04-3be9ce4a8e71.png"> <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/55464094-7df4-466a-8706-4d06ecc06fda.png">
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> Majorities of Democrats (67%) and Independents (55%) believe the US should either end support for Israel’s war effort or make that support conditional on a ceasefire. Only 8% of Democrats but 42% of Republicans think the US must support Israel unconditionally. > Republicans and Independents most often point to immigration as one of Biden’s top foreign policy failures. Democrats most often select the US response to the war in Gaza. <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d89bb81d-ec75-4333-8910-9100963805fb.png"> <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/042756d5-6029-4a42-ac55-59c4bf8b6fd8.png">
And Netanyahu’s obvious provocation strategy is playing out exactly as intended.
Oh but they kept saying how hard they’d been working on a ceasefire. Now what will they say when asked?
Iran? Wtf? They’re problematic for sure, but uh… How could you possibly come to the conclusion that they’re our top enemy? Smells like either motivated reasoning to support the bafflingly pro-Israel stance of the establishment or being scared to name an actual global power because you don’t want to complicate the relationship further (e.g., China). Still, Russia is right there.
“It’s like America invading Iraq, because some Saudi Arabians destroyed the world trade center” --Clarkson
Dems prefer genocide to winning.
Cornell West 2024!
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Irredeemably evil people.
It was all a show the whole time anyway. They stopped because it was increasingly absurd and embarassing. Israel never wanted peace, or the hostages back.