from HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 01 Jun 16:47
https://sh.itjust.works/post/39182294
A Palestinian father who had lost nine of his 10 children in an Israeli airstrike has died from wounds sustained in the same attack, local health officials have said.
Hamdi al-Najjar, 40, a doctor at Nasser hospital, was critically injured when Israeli forces bombed the family house in the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis on 23 May, killing nine of his children. He had just returned home after accompanying his wife Alaa, a paediatrician at the Nasser medical complex, to work when the building was struck. He had initially survived alongside his son Adam, 11, who is still in hospital.
Even by the terrible standards of the Gaza conflict, their deaths had shocked the international community.
Footage shared by the director of Gaza’s health ministry and verified by the Guardian showed the burnt, dismembered bodies of Najjar’s children being pulled from the rubble of their house near a petrol station as flames engulfed what remained of the family’s home.
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Imagine being 11 and having your entire family of 10 other people die at once. Hopefully the hospital he's staying at isn't bombed.
Many and many large family had the same fate. Israel evilness has no limit
Iirc, it’s the same hospital his mom, who is also a doctor, works at. So they have each other at least.
Damn, both parents are doctors? Wow. I wish the family the best.
It’s like they’re trying to create a new generation of terrorists that despise them
Ugh … as if I didn’t already know Netanyahu literally helped keep Hamas in power so people would be less sympathetic to Palestine.
We have some really disgusting people running this world these days. I thought humanity would figure things out eventually but we seem wholly incapable of learning anything from past attrocities for longer than a few generations
It’s in the article and the summary above …
idk if you are a troll or someone who reads the title only then imagines the rest of events from his ass.
Every news article and witness reported the same story. Their mom was at hospital when their dad and kids got bombed. dad and 11 yr old survived for one day. now only that kid
Even worse for that 11 year old survivor boy. Almost makes me think he will be better off not surviving this. 😢
Mom is still alive, she was working when the house was bombed and the bodies were brought in. I hope he survives so they at least have each other.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
I am hurting so much for them, and every parent that lost a child, and every child that lost a parent. Being a parent and a child myself, these stories are heartbreaking. Unforgettable stories.
“Death is so terribly final, while life is full of possibilities.”
❤️
I wonder how many Gazan women find it frustrating that Hamas doesn't accept women. To many like this man's wife the prospect of lobbing IEDs at Jews is probably at least a little tempting.
Edit: I'm not trying to push Israeli talking points, though I guess it might seem that way; I just didn't want to portray your average Palestinian as something they're not. We don't need to gloss over Palestinian antisemitism to believe that pretty much everything Israel did to Palestinians in the last 90 years was abhorrent.
Jews are a part of Palestine as much as other Semitic peoples, like Arabs. It’s Zionists and their industrial terror engine who are the real enemies of the people, chosen or otherwise.
True, but Palestinians (and Arabs in general) don't understand that. The Middle East has fallen for the Zionist lie that they represent Jews everywhere hook, like and sinker, so the distinction between Zionists and Jews doesn't really exist there. I mean hell, growing up I thought "Zionist" was another word for "Jew". It's another thing Zionists broke that needs fixing, but for example when Arabs hear of another Israeli atrocity thet don't curse Zionists, they curse "the unjust Jews and those who support them". So yeah, someone in this situation is going to want to lob IEDs at Jews, not Zionists (though it's not like Israel has a significant number of non-Zionist Jews).
Yeah people tends not to act reasonably when you bomb their entire family.
People who support collective punishment deserve collective punishment.
So you deserve collective punishment?
I think it’s more in the sense of: if someone demonstrates that they are OK with collective punishment (i.e. by doing it), then they forfeit the right to complain about collective punishment when they are on the receiving end of it.
I oppose collective punishment, but if someone has already agreed to it being OK then I don’t have any reason to stand up in opposition when it happens to them. After all, they have already agreed to it and proven that it is acceptable to them.
If you oppose collective punishment, then that also means that you don’t engage in it. No getting to have it both ways. I’m not very tolerant of double standards.
Don’t spread the Zionists propaganda for free. They desperately want you to associate opposition to their colonial project with plain old bigotry.
I’m going to assume you mean well, but comments like your do the Zionists (who are mostly white, by the way) work for them.
She’s frantically busy saving/trying to save lives as a doctor in the same hospital, one of very few still running.
Only an idiot or an antisemitic asshole uses “Jews” as a stand in for “Israelis”.
Yes, that's intentional. I mean don't get me wrong I'm not trying to confirm Israeli propaganda, but it felt weird to say "Zionists" when thinking about a hypothetical Gazan who most likely wouldn't be making that distinction.
They don’t see ‘jews’ attacking them and hate jews, they know what the IDF and the US is, of course there are likely antisemitic people there as there may be anywhere, but most people know the difference between Jews as a group and the people they see shooting and bombing them wearing the flag of Israel or the US.
Why do you think they wouldn’t make a distinction? Islamic texts reference Jewish and Christian prophets, they don’t just naturally automatically hate each other.
I'm extrapolating from my own experience (not Palestinian, but from a country in the vicinity). "Couldn't Hitler have gotten rid of all of them and spared us the trouble" is pretty much a universal position from Morocco to Iraq, and I see no reason Palestinians—who have by far suffered the most under Israel—would be any different. This
Seems to confirm my suspicions. This is one of the things that I find very frustrating about my people, so I'm really not keen to sweep it under the rug.
Because they only ever have the misfortune of interacting with Jews who want to see them dead, would be my bet. Everything an antisemite in Palestine would think about Jews is confirmed by looking at their own lives, meanwhile there's very little challenging those assumptions, so they persist.
Abbas is not necessarily the best source to quote, that quote in particular was something like 30 years ago and he had clarified his stance later emphasizing the horrific crime against humanity that the holocaust was, but he sucks anyway and has very low approval in Palestine, with a reported 90% of Palestinians wanting him to resign. But it is unfortunate that antisemitism like you describe is very common in the Arab world.
This is pure conjecture but it could be possible Palestinians would have a more accurate view of the situation because of their proxmity and history and therefore have less explicit antisemitism versus anti-Zionism, recognizing the distinction.
I assert that any Palestinian antisemitism will almost entirely evaporate the moment the Palestinians get national liberation. There is no deeply held, culturally rooted antisemitism in Palestinian culture, as exists for example in German or Russian culture. There is only the very understandable hatred of the oppressed for their oppressors. The same reason why for example Turks were traditionally hated throughout the Balkans. The problem is in fact that the Apartheid experience is creating such a culture in Palestinians, which is a moral catastrophe for which Israel is squarely responsible.
Certainly true, but by the time this all ends one way or another we'll be looking at more than a century of Zionist colonialism, which I fear is more than enough to culturally root antisemitism in Arab culture. I certainly hope I stop hearing neo-Nazi conspiracy theories as fact from people I otherwise respect, but I think it'll be up to the generation born after Zionist rule is over to fix this mess.
Yeah definitely, no argument there.
Death to america.
–Iraq Lobster
Fuck Israel
Shouldn’t have launched missiles at Israel on October 7th. I know they’ve been fighting since 1948, but perhaps that bombing put Israel’s barrage into overtime.
Who would have thought that Jews and Muslims can’t share the same land.
A fight over the holy land, and people care more about the Muslims than the Jews and their 6 million death genocide during WW2.
Is it because Trump supports Israel?
Is it because the Palestinians are the rightful owners of the holy land?
Either way, you can thank the almighty Great Britain for this holy war and bringing down the ottoman empire.
It’s a tough situation for either side. A whole planet and the two contradicting ideologies are trying to inhabit the same land.
Hopefully, both sides find peace.
Everybody sucks here. Neither side deserves the land, nor has a moral upper hand. They should both be shunned permanently.
No, Israel sucks here, the Palestinians have the moral upper hand, and the Israeli apartheid state has no right to exist. They’re committing a genocide, and have been ethnically cleansing the Palestinian people for over three quarters of a century. The Palestinians have been exercising their right to resist the ethnonationalist, apartheid, genocidal, colonial occupiers, which is perfectly legitimate under international law.
We don’t need this kind of stupidity. Here, anywhere, now, or ever.
They lived together fine for many years. People are concerned about Palestinians because there is accepted scholarly consensus that they are being killed en masse in a genocide waged by Israel and supported materially by the US and it’s allies. Likely at least 100,000 Palestinian people have been killed since October 2023.This isn’t a competition for who is the most worthy victim historically between Muslims and Jews, innocent families, entire neighborhoods are being obliterated by Israel right now. Thousands of children are at risk of starving because of the total blockade by Israel. Many Jewish people disagree with what is happening and would prefer to share the space in peace.
Supporting Palestine and recognizing this as genocide has nothing to do with recognizing the horrors of the holocaust and feeling sympathy for the Jewish victims of antisemitism, they are not contradictory positions.
Tbf, not everyone needs to get informed or involved with issues like this. Realistically, many people would be better off engaging minimally with social media and focusing on their own health and wellbeing and just generally embracing casual anti-racism, rather than trying to internalise it.
I bet you would have been against the Warsaw uprising as well.