This collapse is the direct result of our forceful action against Hezbollah and Iran
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 08 Dec 15:43
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Oh. I mean I don't know how direct it is but unfortunately (???) Israel contributed to a good thing for once. If this results in a free Syria I don't know he probably won't be able to sleep at night, but either way I think he's trying to take credit for it rather than Assad falling being some kind of 5D chess move. If it was anything like that Islamists wouldn't have been leading the offensive and HTS (which is Islamist) wouldn't be set to have the most influence in the post-Assad government.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 08 Dec 16:04
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No offense but the naivety here is pretty astounding. Just look at any other imperial invasions anywhere. I recommend libya or iraq for most relevance.
If it was anything like that Islamists wouldn’t have been leading the offensive and HTS (which is Islamist) wouldn’t be set to have the most influence in the post-Assad government.
Zionists and islamists have exactly the same goals with different religious branding. It’s why ISIS apologized to the zios. Fascists work together as it suits them.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 09 Dec 01:56
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Huh? That's so wrong I have no idea where you got it from. ISIS do not represent Islamists in general, or anyone but themselves. I'm not using "bad apples" logic here; ISIS was bad enough to be rejected by other Islamists, and almost everyone else. Israel, and the West in general, absolutely despise Islamists because they among other things are fundamentally opposed to Western hegemony and Israeli Apartheid, as would be observed from US behavior during the war on terror and its consideration of every Islamist organization out there are terrorist.
Nothing good about Islamic group talking control of the country. I am all for Bashar being out but it doesn’t mean that the new rule will be better and that resistance groups in Palestine was getting arms from Syria.
This will only be good for America and Israel. They got a group that will fight Iran allies, keep Syria is rubble and allow more freedom for Israel to continue the genocide.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 15:50
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Assad was a difficult time too. The difference is stability. Syria has been fucked since 2011. At least now they can rebuild without an obvious dictator - the future will be finding someone who isn’t a dictator to take up power.
Israel, Turkey, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc all want to control Syria so some coalition of foreign tyrants will rule for a bit, but this is ultimately a better future than under Assad.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 08 Dec 16:02
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At least now they can rebuild without an obvious dictator
Ha. Good luck with that. Seems to be going great in libya, etc.
Rebuilding is just a scam the whole point of it is to drown the country in debts and allow multinational American companies to control the economy and ressources. Just like in Iraq
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Can anyone EILI5 what the implications of this might be, and why?
Nobody knows, probably all of them will start a war with each other and isis somehow will return.
I am not optimistic that this will turn out well in any way for anyone.
There are multiple groups whose goals are in conflict, at best they will form a working non religious government.
Maybe. Until they fight it out and one of them comes out on top.
That’s the whole point of imperialism.
Look at any other imperial invasion on the planet. Libya, iraq, afghanistan, etc.
The implications are that the place will be totally destroyed and everything of value will be stolen.
Natanyaho statement make me very pessimistic about Syria future
What Netanyahu statement?
This collapse is the direct result of our forceful action against Hezbollah and Iran
Oh. I mean I don't know how direct it is but unfortunately (???) Israel contributed to a good thing for once. If this results in a free Syria I don't know he probably won't be able to sleep at night, but either way I think he's trying to take credit for it rather than Assad falling being some kind of 5D chess move. If it was anything like that Islamists wouldn't have been leading the offensive and HTS (which is Islamist) wouldn't be set to have the most influence in the post-Assad government.
No offense but the naivety here is pretty astounding. Just look at any other imperial invasions anywhere. I recommend libya or iraq for most relevance.
Zionists and islamists have exactly the same goals with different religious branding. It’s why ISIS apologized to the zios. Fascists work together as it suits them.
Huh? That's so wrong I have no idea where you got it from. ISIS do not represent Islamists in general, or anyone but themselves. I'm not using "bad apples" logic here; ISIS was bad enough to be rejected by other Islamists, and almost everyone else. Israel, and the West in general, absolutely despise Islamists because they among other things are fundamentally opposed to Western hegemony and Israeli Apartheid, as would be observed from US behavior during the war on terror and its consideration of every Islamist organization out there are terrorist.
Nothing good about Islamic group talking control of the country. I am all for Bashar being out but it doesn’t mean that the new rule will be better and that resistance groups in Palestine was getting arms from Syria.
This will only be good for America and Israel. They got a group that will fight Iran allies, keep Syria is rubble and allow more freedom for Israel to continue the genocide.
Miraculous time for all those innocents tortured in Assad’s prisons and liberated since this toppeling. “A blessing from God (Allah)” they will say.
i am very optimistic for once for Syria
You should check out every other imperial invasion on the planet.
Lots of misplaced optimism in this thread.
Tahrir el sham has it’s own fair share of torture
Assad was a difficult time too. The difference is stability. Syria has been fucked since 2011. At least now they can rebuild without an obvious dictator - the future will be finding someone who isn’t a dictator to take up power.
Israel, Turkey, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc all want to control Syria so some coalition of foreign tyrants will rule for a bit, but this is ultimately a better future than under Assad.
Ha. Good luck with that. Seems to be going great in libya, etc.
Rebuilding is just a scam the whole point of it is to drown the country in debts and allow multinational American companies to control the economy and ressources. Just like in Iraq
archive.globalpolicy.org/…/0120ambitions.htm
According to Perkins, his job at the firm was to convince leaders of underdeveloped countries to accept substantial development loans for large construction and engineering projects. Ensuring that these projects were contracted to U.S. companies, such loans provided political influence for the US and access to natural resources for American companies, thus primarily helping local elites and wealthy families, rather than the poor.
Corporate Imperialism is how capital controls the world, not governments.
Empire just made another libya, iraq, afghanistan, ukraine, etc.