U.S. allies and foes fear Maduro's capture sets precedent for more American intervention (www.nbcnews.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 04 Jan 22:29
https://lemmy.world/post/41158650

The lack of a clear legal justification and the precedent set by the operation have left others wondering how vulnerable they might be to U.S. intervention.

Russia and China swiftly condemned the strikes and called for the release of Maduro, who has been brought to the U.S. to face criminal charges. Iran and Cuba denounced what they called a violation of international law, their objections carrying an edge of unease that they, too, could find themselves in Washington’s sights.

Even major European allies, more cautious and measured in tone, carefully signaled concern about the operation’s legality while largely aligning with the U.S. on policy.

Taken together, these responses suggest the revival of old fears of American interventionism, prompting allies and adversaries alike to ponder where Washington might act next.

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TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world on 04 Jan 22:33 next collapse

Even major European allies, more cautious and measured in tone, carefully signaled concern about the operation’s legality while largely aligning with the U.S. on policy.

Grow a pair, Europe.

Enoril@jlai.lu on 05 Jan 01:11 next collapse

Problem is: stupid senile president + no limit or empathy or concern over any existing laws+ full control over the financial system (visa, mastercard) and the numeric infrastructure (cloud, phones, …) + capable to tax you higher than his “enemy” = not a lot of margin

It’s not for nothing we said: don’t vote for this fucker.

panda_abyss@lemmy.ca on 05 Jan 02:16 collapse

You know, some things are worth going through temporary pain.

Enoril@jlai.lu on 05 Jan 09:06 collapse

Fully agree and I can tell you that our dependence to technologies under usa control WILL DECREASE. I already asked my Executive Vice President LAST SUMMER how and when we could move on from American products.

But right now?

We use Google workspace (email, drive, etc) and phone (Android) to communicate and works across our worldwide locations, we use AWS and Microsoft as IT providers, we use Win11 and 10 000+ win servers or databases or softwares provided by American companies, we have plants in USA too, a lot of equipments used in our products are provided by American companies and our products are sold 50/50 in € & $. And the list can continue for hours ( .com is under USA control too and all our customers services use it).

So if suddenly, “Pumpkin(g) One” decide to call for a ban or a 200% increase of taxes or anything else as stupid because he don’t like our comment about his operation… WE ARE FUCKED! My company dies, my country economy is heavily fucked, I don’t have a job and lost 25+ years of my work because 30% of people across the ocean is not fucking able to detect fascists (or is ok with it).

People are PISSED right now, but they can tell as this fucker love playing a mafia boss and be a bully.

ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca on 05 Jan 02:29 next collapse

With the rise of fascism across the western hemisphere, I doubt anyone will act. 

wheezy@lemmy.ml on 05 Jan 07:26 next collapse

I said this when Trump first started and all the Europeans and Canadians were leaning into local nationalism and their neoliberal leaders doing the same. But I’ll say it again.

Capitalist Interest of the west are aligned. The fate of the working class of Europe will be the same fate as those in America. You are not somehow separated from the results of Imperialism that you have enjoyed. And you will not be able to avoid the decline of its benefits as the ruling class tightens it’s grip. Your leaders can “condemn” the legality. It’s even less effective than our supposed leftist politicians in America doing the same. Your leaders words are as useless as the words of Bernie Sanders.

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 00:01 collapse

Fascism is everywhere now, there is no escape anymore. Every country has already been bought. The wealthy won and people still worship money because they don’t know better. There is exactly zero awareness to this fact of life.

As long as wealth gaps and classism exists we are going to be stuck here.

MrMakabar@slrpnk.net on 05 Jan 13:13 collapse

The honest truth is that Europe benefits from what Trump just did. Venezuela has a lot of oil, which it can not produce due to lacking technology. What they had in that tech they bought from Russia financing the war Europe cares about the most. With more Venezuelan oil on the market oil prices will fall, which hurts Russia. At the same time lower oil prices means less money to wage wars in the Middle East, which is good for Europe.

FlexibleToast@lemmy.world on 04 Jan 23:19 next collapse

He’s already started threatening other countries. He will keep going.

saltesc@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 02:14 next collapse

Greenland, Colombia, Cuba, Iran… The justifications for them being just as bullshit as Venuzuala, so undoubtedly there’s huge concern.

But look how long it took for other nations to react when Hitler started occupying country after country. Sadly, shouldn’t have hopes up.

nforminvasion@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 13:42 collapse

Fascists always need an enemy to shift ire onto.

logicbomb@lemmy.world on 04 Jan 23:45 next collapse

If a home invader breaks into your house, and kidnaps your sister, then says, “I’m taking her out to my van. I’ll be right back to kidnap you next,” you’d be freaking out, yes, but it would be weird to say that you’re freaking out because of the precedent.

TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works on 04 Jan 23:57 next collapse

It’s utter lawless lunacy. They’ve given carte balanche to dictators everywhere

switcheroo@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 00:45 next collapse

All other countries should just ban the orange fuckhead from their lands. Use the fact he is a rapist, a pedophile, and a felon. Then those countries should join together and say they’d arrest ON THE SPOT a criminal like that, citing that’s what the US thinks it can do.

Drusas@fedia.io on 05 Jan 02:16 next collapse

He should be tried by the ICC.

Witchfire@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 07:48 collapse

Unfortunately the US has the Hague Invasion Act and I guarantee 100% Trump will pull that trigger even if his buddy Benny is caught

Not that I disagree, though

Lexam@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 00:45 next collapse

“intervention”

Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf on 05 Jan 00:53 next collapse

Europe and the rest of the same world need to start sanctions on the Trump regime now and nip it in the bud, we all saw what happened when Putin got away with attacking Georgia and then invading Crimea without any serious consequences, Trump will only get bolder next time.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 05 Jan 01:07 next collapse

intervention

You mean unprovoked invasions, right? No need for the cutesy wording used here, this is what it is

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 01:43 next collapse

Stop calling it intervention. It’s the terrorist state declaring war on the world, congrats Americans you are the Nazis now. And you are all cowards for not standing up to this by all means

optissima@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 12:43 next collapse

And you’re a coward for not working on creating solidarity amongst them yourself. Way to attack those also oppressed by america. Try building a movement in your own country that doesn’t just let it lick the US’s feet before you go demanding that others do it in a country that has infinitely more guns pointed against them.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 22:24 collapse

Why would I want solidarity among Americans? They’re nuts. Together they would be an even worse threat to humanity

optissima@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 12:17 collapse

Because that’s your only hope to stop your land from being invaded by the American government? Literally a majority of Americans oppose most of Americas actions when given context? You call others cowards but you have no real solutions yourself, your mindset is only a few degrees off from a Nazi think if you paint with such a large brush.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 05 Jan 18:04 collapse

And what is YOUR country doing to resist the exact same Far Right pressure on your government? We’re the canary on the coalmine, and while you keep blaming the canary, the poison is growing in your country, too.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 22:22 collapse

Im indigenous, my “country” is what you all took

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 05 Jan 23:50 collapse

Valid.

sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jan 01:59 next collapse

Correction: Former Allies

obvs@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 02:32 next collapse

There’s no such thing as a U.S. ally, and the quicker other countries know that, the better.

Formfiller@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 07:41 next collapse

The Turd Reich

rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works on 05 Jan 07:49 next collapse

Intervention Invasions and acts of war

ftfy

WanderWisley@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 13:47 next collapse

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AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 22:36 collapse
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works on 05 Jan 21:26 next collapse

Someone go grab Kim Jong Un for the lulz

☢️🚀⤵️ 🌇💥🔥

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 23:57 collapse

For real, if anyone deserved to be abducted it would be Kimmy Boy. Could you imagine the crocodile tears that mammas boy would produce. Would be worth every penny to see that monster break down.

DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jan 00:00 collapse

Oh lol I was just having a intrusive thought like: I wonder what happens if you just yoink the leader if a nuclear-armed state… nuclear war?

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 00:05 collapse

In a sane world of course not. We don’t live in a sane world though. Hell, a country like Israel has nuclear weapons. That is the equivalent of a wolverine with rabies.

This was the whole point of nuclear disarmament. We can’t trust human beings.

SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 22:31 next collapse

Execute the pedo king!

TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jan 23:51 collapse

Stop calling it an intervention. It’s an act of war and a war crime. Don’t downplay this shit.

phx@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 01:56 collapse

Yeah they mis-spelled invasion