chosensilence@pawb.social
on 02 May 17:22
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bye bye~! let this happen to the rest too. i hope the airline industry crashes and has to be nationalized or some shit idk. better than this. anything would be better than the current mess we have.
Why does it have to be in the future? I feel that way right now.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net
on 02 May 18:19
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There’s nothing wrong with travel. It’s airplane emissions that’s the problem
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
on 02 May 18:25
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What’s the alternative though? High speed rail would be nice, but since that won’t happen, you’d just have all those people driving cars instead.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
on 02 May 19:05
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I know: Zeppelins.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca
on 02 May 19:08
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What’s the alternative?
Names existing, tried and tested alternative that has been working well for 200 years
Naw, can’t do that, it’d be hard.
(This is you)
Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world
on 02 May 21:13
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Id love to see a bullet train from LA to Tokyo
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
on 03 May 01:41
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Okay please point out all these high speed rail projects happening around the country. AFAIK there’s only one in SoCal and its been delayed for years and several orders of magnitude over budget. You people act like its just a matter of snapping your fingers and we suddenly have a high speed rail network, walkable cities, and no need for cars or airplanes.
I’m not opposed to any of this but we’re just as likely to get transporter technology to rid ourselves of cars. Don’t get mad at me for bringing you guys back down to earth.
The alternative is simply not going on a jaunt to Greece. It’s a luxury.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net
on 03 May 00:34
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Why won’t it happen? High speed rail is a mature proven technology
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
on 03 May 01:35
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Because there’s zero political will to do so, our nation is huge, and there’s no land to build this rail on without lots of eminent domain seizures.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
on 03 May 06:11
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The USSR was a lot bigger, less dense, and less developed. They managed rail.
As far as eminent domain goes, half our cities are parking lot and road. You can also simply elevate the rail. Or you can do what the chinese do and not build the station in the city center and instead run subways connecting the rail stations everywhere. IMO this is worse than building the train station near downtown.
bridgeburner@lemmy.world
on 03 May 09:48
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Because Big Oil doesn’t profit from high speed trains, since those trains don’t run on fossil fuels (at least not directly). And everyone knows Big Oil rules the US in truth. Every president is just more or less a puppet from them.
Not in this country. It’s nearly impossible to get the land to make it possible. Then it’s the fact that large districts are far apart. The economics of rail are tough. You take a 4 hour flight, it becomes a 16 hour rail trip.
CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world
on 03 May 00:15
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Every source I’ve ever looked at has flights pegged as the most polluting form of passenger travel. Plus the pollutants are deposited directly into the upper atmosphere, which no coal rolling asshole in a dually can ever accomplish. That further magnifies their impact. I’d interested in where you’ve drawn your conclusion from.
Casterial@lemmy.world
on 02 May 17:50
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People complain video games have too many micro transactions, but they learned from the American airline companies.
I can take a 2hr trip in Asia and get a full damn meal.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca
on 02 May 19:06
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God damn son, you commie fuck, won’t you think about the shareholders?
Some guy could buy his 3rd yacht if you weren’t so fucking greedy that you need to be “treated like a human being with a modicum if dignity”
I went to rural Thailand back in 2007 to teach English for a month with a group from my university. Our plane died at the gate in Miami and, in order to make all of our connections to get to Thailand we made last minute changes that put us on Thai Air from LAX. Best damn flight I’ve ever been on and it was in basic, seated in the absolute middle of the middle section and I’m someone who’s unable to sleep on a plane unless I have the window. So I was awake for most of those 17.5 hours. Plane was beautiful, crew was beautiful and friendly. There was framed art on the walls and multiple full meals on the flight.
EDIT: Forgot to finish before I posted. The trip back we took Northwestern Airlines and, hoo boy. Meals were served out of a sense of obligation, stacked at last seat of the row to be passed out ourselves. When we hit the part where they wanted people’s seat backs and tray tables up they just went down the row and grabbed end seats with people asleep in them and pushing them up. Such a stark difference.
Casterial@lemmy.world
on 03 May 05:08
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Yeah, our airlines suck. Every time I take any airline that’s non American based (i.e EU or Asia) the experience is wild. Hell I got free alcohol on the Dutch airlines they didn’t care lol
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
on 03 May 06:00
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asian airlines does comfort over stacking people like sardines for profit, because they see the ROI as a constant revenue, rather to rip off a bandaid like with american ones.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 02 May 21:22
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At this point I agree, but solely because I’m from Boeing country, and holy mother of fuck do I hate Boeing and the absolute horseshit they’ve been doing for the last 20 years.
Fuck McDonnnell Douglas, goddamn finance bros wore Boeing like a skin suit and destroyed the company.
In reality they will consolidate to 2 companies that collude on price fixing but don’t get broken up, and you’ll eat shit and smile like a good consumer.
expatriado@lemmy.world
on 02 May 17:50
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there is guys, we lost the spirit, the rest of the economy goes next
The right wing would be instantly defederated from the rest while the left wing builds three identical versions that all say they wanna go forward while pulling the plane in different directions.
Everybody hates the huge central fuselage but can’t disconnect from it without falling from the sky.
Most of the discussion focuses on snide comments between the slightly different wing designs while all the critical tail components are held together by 3 single selfhosting admins. Then one of them goes on holiday and the tail fin just disappears.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
on 02 May 19:04
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This is one of the single most accurate and succinct analogies of a tech space I have ever read, save possibly for the one that Neal Stephenson wrote about operating systems being car dealerships.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca
on 02 May 19:11
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The two wings entirely forgetting that the point of their existence is to support the massive population in the centre of the airplane just trying to get where they’re going is pretty peak political commentary
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
on 03 May 06:08
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And the pilots debate nihilism while the flight attendant asks if there’s a doctor on the plane.
vapordays@leminal.space
on 03 May 01:12
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I’ll chip in as long as I can fly it – I have 1000+ hours in flight simulator
trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf
on 03 May 05:34
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I can vouch for this individual, I’ve watched them successfully complete most of those hours
I could imagine us mounting a huge effort to get the fediverse jet and even have an instance based on the thing. We would always have a bird in the air, so that the fediverse would belong to no nation and would survive any conflicts.
But then somebody would mention how bad flying the plane is for the environment, and calculate that it breaks down to multiple kg of CO2 per post, and we’d all be like “shit, you’re right” and shut it down.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
on 03 May 06:03
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i remember she was supporting " some sort of progressive " initiative, but immediately turned around and complained about her plane being tracked and looking like a hypocrite she is by being polluting. Also hanging out Magat/friends fans.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
on 03 May 06:17
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Real shit though, a fediverse-based co-op would be sick!
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca
on 02 May 19:09
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As if you and me are allowed to benefit from the “free” market like that lol. No. Don’t worry, everything that isn’t already spoke for or owed to someone will go to someone who already owns things for a living.
Usually these are auctioned of at industrial/buiness auction houses.
So check out the various bancruptcy auction houses or find out who is their liquidator and ask them.
But be warned, it’s rarely worth it.
If you live near one of their hubs thete probably will be some interesting stuff that can be had for cheap. I’ve gotten pretty good deals at industrial auction before.
its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works
on 02 May 21:53
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Just an FYI
‘Sorta’ is a slang contraction of ‘sort of’
You don’t need an ‘of’ after ‘sorta’
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
on 02 May 22:17
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They will contact one of the larger auction places on your country and let them handle it. Here in Australia it’s Slatterly for cars and vehicles, and Ross’s for other stuff. I’ve bought catering equipment, servers, printers and office furniture from auction. But they sell anything from jewelry and wine to Komatsu mining dump trucks the size of my house.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com
on 02 May 18:26
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Cant wait for all the planes to become mobile spirit Halloweens
Bonesince1997@lemmy.world
on 02 May 18:42
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Pilots bailing out mid flights /s
uncommoncorvid@piefed.blahaj.zone
on 03 May 04:13
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they prevented this by not having a flight in the air at the time they ceased operations
lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world
on 02 May 21:13
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If you were willing to play the game, Spirit was an effective way to fly cheap. I have a backpack that’s the maximum size permitted for “personal item”, never carried luggage to check in and brought my own snacks and drinks.
The leg space was atrocious but I’d get their emails to bid on exit row seats, bid the lowest amount ($5-$15) and often win.
I had enough points for a free one-way flight, but alas.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
on 02 May 22:16
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I genuinely appreciated being able to do a round trip for under $100 all in including train tickets. Like you I had my own backpack, snacks, water and wore extra clothes. Going to miss those deals.
Spirit was the fucking shit. I booked a round trip cross country flight day of for $160. I knew the get down, backpack, pack light. Anyone else would have been $500+ I also got bumped into their BIG seats on one flight and it was phenomenal. I have nothing but good things to say about them which people are always surprised to hear. All the major airlines have become Spirit anyways with the whole basic economy being a thing and charging for carry-ons. Everyone nickels and dimes you, at least Spirit had a low base price. I will miss them.
RavingGrob@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 03 May 04:08
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Gave up the ghost
jordanlund@lemmy.world
on 03 May 05:50
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This has been reported as US Internal news, but Spirit did service Mexico, the Caribbean and other places in Central and South America.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
on 03 May 06:10
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Okay, that’s kind of funny. Because I’ve flown Spirit Air, and fuck Spirit Air (the seats are deliberately designed to be more uncomfortable than usual).
But also, it’s kinda sad because it disproportionally impacts people with lower income who need to travel on a budget.
But also, where can I buy their planes? I don’t have any money, or a place to park them. I’m just curious…
Never heard of Spirit Airlines until yesterday. Seems people liked it due to the cheap flights.
Here in Europe we have Ryanair for that, but I always feel bad when the only decent price I can find is from Ryanair; they treat their employees like disposable garbage. They were banned from landing in Kastrup for some time because of this.
Usually if I have to pay a little extra to avoid Ryanair, I’ll do it. I hope Spirit Airlines has a better reputation.
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bye bye~! let this happen to the rest too. i hope the airline industry crashes and has to be nationalized or some shit idk. better than this. anything would be better than the current mess we have.
I think there will be a time in the future where people will look at how frivolously we travelled around the world with a level of disgust.
Why does it have to be in the future? I feel that way right now.
There’s nothing wrong with travel. It’s airplane emissions that’s the problem
What’s the alternative though? High speed rail would be nice, but since that won’t happen, you’d just have all those people driving cars instead.
I know: Zeppelins.
What’s the alternative?
Names existing, tried and tested alternative that has been working well for 200 years
Naw, can’t do that, it’d be hard.
(This is you)
Id love to see a bullet train from LA to Tokyo
Okay please point out all these high speed rail projects happening around the country. AFAIK there’s only one in SoCal and its been delayed for years and several orders of magnitude over budget. You people act like its just a matter of snapping your fingers and we suddenly have a high speed rail network, walkable cities, and no need for cars or airplanes.
I’m not opposed to any of this but we’re just as likely to get transporter technology to rid ourselves of cars. Don’t get mad at me for bringing you guys back down to earth.
The alternative is simply not going on a jaunt to Greece. It’s a luxury.
Why won’t it happen? High speed rail is a mature proven technology
Because there’s zero political will to do so, our nation is huge, and there’s no land to build this rail on without lots of eminent domain seizures.
The USSR was a lot bigger, less dense, and less developed. They managed rail.
As far as eminent domain goes, half our cities are parking lot and road. You can also simply elevate the rail. Or you can do what the chinese do and not build the station in the city center and instead run subways connecting the rail stations everywhere. IMO this is worse than building the train station near downtown.
Like the ones they did for the border wall?
Because Big Oil doesn’t profit from high speed trains, since those trains don’t run on fossil fuels (at least not directly). And everyone knows Big Oil rules the US in truth. Every president is just more or less a puppet from them.
Not in this country. It’s nearly impossible to get the land to make it possible. Then it’s the fact that large districts are far apart. The economics of rail are tough. You take a 4 hour flight, it becomes a 16 hour rail trip.
Its billionaires emissions that are the problem…
what do you mean? just because there were like 200 private aeroplanes at some billionaire’s wedding, doesn’t mean the billionaires are at fault!
just in case
/s
Per passenger per mile, the emissions are less than cars and ships…
Every source I’ve ever looked at has flights pegged as the most polluting form of passenger travel. Plus the pollutants are deposited directly into the upper atmosphere, which no coal rolling asshole in a dually can ever accomplish. That further magnifies their impact. I’d interested in where you’ve drawn your conclusion from.
People complain video games have too many micro transactions, but they learned from the American airline companies.
I can take a 2hr trip in Asia and get a full damn meal.
God damn son, you commie fuck, won’t you think about the shareholders?
Some guy could buy his 3rd yacht if you weren’t so fucking greedy that you need to be “treated like a human being with a modicum if dignity”
I went to rural Thailand back in 2007 to teach English for a month with a group from my university. Our plane died at the gate in Miami and, in order to make all of our connections to get to Thailand we made last minute changes that put us on Thai Air from LAX. Best damn flight I’ve ever been on and it was in basic, seated in the absolute middle of the middle section and I’m someone who’s unable to sleep on a plane unless I have the window. So I was awake for most of those 17.5 hours. Plane was beautiful, crew was beautiful and friendly. There was framed art on the walls and multiple full meals on the flight.
EDIT: Forgot to finish before I posted. The trip back we took Northwestern Airlines and, hoo boy. Meals were served out of a sense of obligation, stacked at last seat of the row to be passed out ourselves. When we hit the part where they wanted people’s seat backs and tray tables up they just went down the row and grabbed end seats with people asleep in them and pushing them up. Such a stark difference.
Yeah, our airlines suck. Every time I take any airline that’s non American based (i.e EU or Asia) the experience is wild. Hell I got free alcohol on the Dutch airlines they didn’t care lol
asian airlines does comfort over stacking people like sardines for profit, because they see the ROI as a constant revenue, rather to rip off a bandaid like with american ones.
At this point I agree, but solely because I’m from Boeing country, and holy mother of fuck do I hate Boeing and the absolute horseshit they’ve been doing for the last 20 years.
Fuck McDonnnell Douglas, goddamn finance bros wore Boeing like a skin suit and destroyed the company.
In reality they will consolidate to 2 companies that collude on price fixing but don’t get broken up, and you’ll eat shit and smile like a good consumer.
there is guys, we lost the spirit, the rest of the economy goes next
Sorta of a blind shot, but does anyone here know where to look for their asset liquidation & auctions?
I can’t afford an A320 but I’m sure they have some good tools, equipment, servers, etc.
Maybe we could all chip in? I’d like a Fediverse A320.
I’m not so sure.
The right wing would be instantly defederated from the rest while the left wing builds three identical versions that all say they wanna go forward while pulling the plane in different directions.
Everybody hates the huge central fuselage but can’t disconnect from it without falling from the sky.
Most of the discussion focuses on snide comments between the slightly different wing designs while all the critical tail components are held together by 3 single selfhosting admins. Then one of them goes on holiday and the tail fin just disappears.
This is one of the single most accurate and succinct analogies of a tech space I have ever read, save possibly for the one that Neal Stephenson wrote about operating systems being car dealerships.
The two wings entirely forgetting that the point of their existence is to support the massive population in the centre of the airplane just trying to get where they’re going is pretty peak political commentary
And the pilots debate nihilism while the flight attendant asks if there’s a doctor on the plane.
I’ll chip in as long as I can fly it – I have 1000+ hours in flight simulator
I can vouch for this individual, I’ve watched them successfully complete most of those hours
I could imagine us mounting a huge effort to get the fediverse jet and even have an instance based on the thing. We would always have a bird in the air, so that the fediverse would belong to no nation and would survive any conflicts.
But then somebody would mention how bad flying the plane is for the environment, and calculate that it breaks down to multiple kg of CO2 per post, and we’d all be like “shit, you’re right” and shut it down.
The taylor swift memes would return
i remember she was supporting " some sort of progressive " initiative, but immediately turned around and complained about her plane being tracked and looking like a hypocrite she is by being polluting. Also hanging out Magat/friends fans.
Real shit though, a fediverse-based co-op would be sick!
As if you and me are allowed to benefit from the “free” market like that lol. No. Don’t worry, everything that isn’t already spoke for or owed to someone will go to someone who already owns things for a living.
Learn your place
Usually these are auctioned of at industrial/buiness auction houses. So check out the various bancruptcy auction houses or find out who is their liquidator and ask them. But be warned, it’s rarely worth it.
If you live near one of their hubs thete probably will be some interesting stuff that can be had for cheap. I’ve gotten pretty good deals at industrial auction before.
Just an FYI
‘Sorta’ is a slang contraction of ‘sort of’ You don’t need an ‘of’ after ‘sorta’
I bet your sorta blast at partys.
Sorta of uh a blast ish
I blame my crappy Samsung android keyboard lol
I’ve noticed it’s especially bad on lemmy for some reason.
It’s sorta of a problem, I agree.
Well in any case. RIP in peace Spirit Airlines.
They will contact one of the larger auction places on your country and let them handle it. Here in Australia it’s Slatterly for cars and vehicles, and Ross’s for other stuff. I’ve bought catering equipment, servers, printers and office furniture from auction. But they sell anything from jewelry and wine to Komatsu mining dump trucks the size of my house.
a380 or gtfo
Those are about to be on the market as well.
Cant wait for all the planes to become mobile spirit Halloweens
Pilots bailing out mid flights /s
they prevented this by not having a flight in the air at the time they ceased operations
If you were willing to play the game, Spirit was an effective way to fly cheap. I have a backpack that’s the maximum size permitted for “personal item”, never carried luggage to check in and brought my own snacks and drinks.
The leg space was atrocious but I’d get their emails to bid on exit row seats, bid the lowest amount ($5-$15) and often win.
I had enough points for a free one-way flight, but alas.
one last flight to flavortown…
I genuinely appreciated being able to do a round trip for under $100 all in including train tickets. Like you I had my own backpack, snacks, water and wore extra clothes. Going to miss those deals.
You can still pretty much do this with frontier
Spirit was the fucking shit. I booked a round trip cross country flight day of for $160. I knew the get down, backpack, pack light. Anyone else would have been $500+ I also got bumped into their BIG seats on one flight and it was phenomenal. I have nothing but good things to say about them which people are always surprised to hear. All the major airlines have become Spirit anyways with the whole basic economy being a thing and charging for carry-ons. Everyone nickels and dimes you, at least Spirit had a low base price. I will miss them.
Gave up the ghost
This has been reported as US Internal news, but Spirit did service Mexico, the Caribbean and other places in Central and South America.
Their closure has a wide impact.
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Okay, that’s kind of funny. Because I’ve flown Spirit Air, and fuck Spirit Air (the seats are deliberately designed to be more uncomfortable than usual).
But also, it’s kinda sad because it disproportionally impacts people with lower income who need to travel on a budget.
But also, where can I buy their planes? I don’t have any money, or a place to park them. I’m just curious…
They’re not for sale. They just put new lipstick on all of the planes and a new airline will start up in 6 months or so.
Never heard of Spirit Airlines until yesterday. Seems people liked it due to the cheap flights.
Here in Europe we have Ryanair for that, but I always feel bad when the only decent price I can find is from Ryanair; they treat their employees like disposable garbage. They were banned from landing in Kastrup for some time because of this.
Usually if I have to pay a little extra to avoid Ryanair, I’ll do it. I hope Spirit Airlines has a better reputation.