from HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 13:00
https://sh.itjust.works/post/51396099
Meanwhile, (NATO Secretary General Mark) Rutte delivers a very stark warning in the opening lines of his speech in Berlin as he says:
“I’m here today to tell you where Nato stands and what we must do to stop a war before it starts. And to do that, we need to be crystal clear about the threat: we are Russia’s next target, and we are already in harm’s way.”
He says that while the decision to accelerate defence spending at Nato’s Hague summit earlier this year was welcome, “this is not a time for self-congratulation.”
“I fear that too many are quietly complacent. Too many don’t feel the urgency. And too many believe that time is on our side. It is not. The time for action is now. Allied defence spending and production must rise rapidly. Our armed forces must have what they need to keep us safe.”
Rutte says that Russia “has become even more brazen, reckless and ruthless towards Nato and towards Ukraine.”
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Plus the USA front is quite possible. Not highly probable, but still possible.
Is this one of those Russian bots meant to just stir shit up?
Well when it is reported that Trump threatens to annex Greenland militarily it’s no surprise that the USA could be seen as the enemy especially with his cosying up to Putin.
Not just that but didn’t a report just come out of the US saying they are more in line with Russia than NATO?
Yes. Nothing about North Korea. Nothing negative about Russia. Lots of attacking Europe.
As an American who’s lived half my life in Europe, I’ve been warning of this since Trump first took office in his first term. The US under Trump could easily start supporting Putin directly or attacking Europe directly. Its unlikely but its a possibility, and Europe would be really screwed if this happened. Europe’s ass is really hanging out right now and they need to pull it together militarily quick so they stop looking like easy pickings.
insane warmongerer clinging to power; never money for wellfare, always money for tax cuts and military spending.
talk of war on an international level “for democracy” is never about anything like democracy.
generals gather in their masses… just like lobbyists round parliaments now.
ask yourself if you want europe to die for NATO or if NATO shall die for europe as russia joins the european union.
the reason russia is being attacked by EU is because USA fears unification of EU+russia.
european wellfare states or warfare states; criticizing USA & understanding states at war or never questioning USA and shaming empathy.
quick maff
What the hell? This is most insane thing I’ve read in a while. The EU is not fighting Russia at all, but Russia has been undermining the EU for 2 decades now. Russia attacks EU neighbours to keep them out of the EU, and talks about attacking EU countries. And Russia has not the slightest interest in joining the EU.
Meanwhile, it’s the US that’s siding with Russia against the EU. So yes, Europe needs to take its defense a lot more seriously.
Oddly falling in line with the US trying to pull out of NATO…. Interesting.
Yeah, the country that’s taken 3 years to capture like 200 miles of land from a former SSR riddled with corruption, 8 years into a civil war, is coming for Germany. Watch out, Iran, Venezuela, and Cuba might attack from the other sides. You’re basically surrounded.
It’s not like they will roll in with their tanks. They are already attacking with cyber attacks and sabotage on infrastructure as well as drones. And most importantly they sow social unrest with the goal of undermining democracy and bring into power pro Russian parties like AfD and BSW.
They could roll in with tanks, if enough pro-Russian parties came into power in the EU. The Baltic countries are not very big. Creating a situation where an Article 5 is called by a small country, but not answered, would be the ideal result.
Let’s also not forget that Putin has only done a very limited amount of mobilization so far.
you good? Russia’s all widows
They’re headed in that direction, but not yet. Their pop is 143 mil roughly, and the Ukrainian estimates are a little over 1 mil Russian casualties last I heard.
Germany is far worse prepared than Ukraine was. And it doesn’t have to be Germany first. There are lots of small countries in Europe that can be taken in the build up to Germany if NATO is not swift and forceful in its response.
I hope our military personnel stand down, this is the wrong side of history, I don’t want to be associated with this shit