China’s yuan replaces US dollar as ‘primary’ currency for Russia’s foreign trade (www.scmp.com)
from Rapidcreek@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 02 Feb 2024 11:22
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JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works on 02 Feb 2024 12:41 next collapse

I’m surprised it took them so long.

Heresy_generator@kbin.social on 02 Feb 2024 12:43 next collapse

[Russia is running out of US dollars]

TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee on 02 Feb 2024 16:04 next collapse

[Russia is fucked]

Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 00:05 collapse

Their US dollars are just frozen in overseas bank accounts. It’s not that they don’t have them, they just don’t have access to them, mostly over sanctions imposed after the Ukraine invasion.

dan42O@infosec.pub on 02 Feb 2024 13:16 next collapse

Some that BRICS action baby

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 02 Feb 2024 22:45 collapse

Yup, thats precisely what it is for. The world is getting multipolar, thats for sure.

And last time this happened there was a world war, so I’m not sure if I should be excited.

dan42O@infosec.pub on 03 Feb 2024 01:11 collapse

No way I’m saying I’m excited. But why does the world have to confirm to the US.

eran_morad@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 14:54 collapse

You don’t. You get to pick your hegemony and you live or die with the consequences.

buzz86us@lemmy.world on 02 Feb 2024 13:37 next collapse

Yup China is funding them, but the Chinese don’t care about their war they are just slowly taking over Russia

wjrii@kbin.social on 02 Feb 2024 14:36 next collapse

I mostly agree, but I'm sure the Chinese don't mind seeing what happens when the West is faced with an ambivalent-to-hostile nuclear power, with deep commercial ties, going to war to press questionable territorial claims.

realitista@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 11:09 next collapse

China’s just happy to get rid of more of its currency so it can keep more dollars in reserve.

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Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 Feb 2024 15:39 next collapse

Along w/ massive purchases in gold, brics will have the world currency status sooner or later

xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 02 Feb 2024 17:00 next collapse

Brics doesn’t even have a centralised currency of any form lol.

For it to have the world standard currency, the bunch of systemic competitors that make up brics (almost all of which have at least some major cause of friction with at least one of member) to:

  • agree on a name, design and production strategy that every single member is happy with
  • have a centralised bank somewhere that is controlled by some (presumably inter-state) entity
  • have all members adopt that currency as their primary currency, phasing out their existing state controlled ones
  • have the currency be more stable and commonly accepted than USD

Only then can it even really begin to start being a world currency

Frankly, I don’t think there’s nearly enough cooperation within the group to even start making steps toward a common currency for decades

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 02 Feb 2024 22:40 next collapse

BRICS is not about having a centralized hegemonic currency to replace the dollar, but about negotiating with the countries own currencies and skipping the dollar. This news is just that.

Also the BRICS bank exists.

xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 03 Feb 2024 12:58 collapse

They have a development bank, but that’s fundamentally very different to a central bank (more like the IMF and less ECB).

The comment I was replying too was about a centralised brics currency, though.

platypus_plumba@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 01:14 next collapse

Why would they need to fully replace their local currency to trade with another currency?

Is this something all countries that trade with dollars have done?

realitista@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 11:11 next collapse

Yeah zero chance this happens in our lifetimes. They don’t have enough in common to pull something like this off. It took Europe half a century and they are all next door neighbors with roughly the same values.

hglman@lemmy.ml on 03 Feb 2024 15:13 collapse

I’ll take that bet; you have to pay in the new currency if I’m right; if you’re right, one of us is dead, and it doesn’t matter.

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xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 02 Feb 2024 19:39 next collapse

I’m still betting on the Euro overtaking the dollar - the EU is much less unpredictable than America.

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 02 Feb 2024 22:53 next collapse

I agree but I don’t think the US would like or even let this happen.

Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 13:13 next collapse

The world has been divesting from the Euro ever since the sovereign debt crisis in 08 and 09. A lack of unified monetary policy is a large factor. However, Europe’s has only accelerated the trend by keeping interest rates low compared to the strong action the Federal Reserve took when inflation became an issue. Europe is now hit with a double whammy of high inflation and low growth. Europes economy is fundamentally weak. Its population is aging towards having a majority of retirees. Retirees don’t spend money on stuff like people in their 20’s 30’s and 40’s. Simultaneously they are dependent upon foreign sources for energy.

The EU simply can’t raise interest rates or they will kill what little growth they have.

realitista@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 13:19 collapse

Unfortunately the US has a lot better access to labor, better demographics, and more natural resources and better river networks, etc. to exploit, not to mention extremely good natural defense lines. No matter how well run Europe is in comparison, the US will always have a massive head start.

Yewb@lemmy.world on 02 Feb 2024 23:35 next collapse

All of the brics countries right now can keep thier own world currency we need more local currencies im tired of this drive to welcome globalism from known fascist countries.

bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net on 03 Feb 2024 05:24 collapse

What exactly do you mean by globalism?

Unfortunately, in the US, the term generally is used exclusively by the far right to reference rich Jews and the liberals who support them.

I just want to clarify whether you are referencing that or a different usage of the term that may be more location specific to you.

Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 12:51 next collapse

Wow, you have it figured out. How much money have you converted into any of the BRICS currencies? It sounds like you would have quite the long term investment when those currencies appreciate due to increased demand.

eran_morad@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 14:56 collapse
deft@lemmy.wtf on 02 Feb 2024 16:03 next collapse

I love seeing this and the comments about BRICS lol

Imagine being excited two kids are eating sand. That’s what you’re doing lol

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world on 02 Feb 2024 17:28 collapse

No, you see, BRICS will adopt the blockchain and then we’ll all get a lot of money from the seekrit money fund that the (((globalists))) have been keeping from us! Q said so!

(/s fwiw)

platypus_plumba@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 01:12 next collapse

Sir, honestly, why would you send a page with a pay wall? Did you want me to only read the title?

irreticent@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 02:31 collapse

Why not just bypass the paywall? Archive the page:

archive.is/v15bW

realitista@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 11:06 next collapse

Now that’s the idea we could have rolled with from the get-go.

platypus_plumba@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 19:59 collapse

Does this work for all pages with a pay wall? Someone always tells me “duh, why didn’t you bypass it?” Then I try the tool they gave me on other page and it doesn’t work.

That’s just my experience. I hate frontend code, so I usually fail when I go into the html components to remove stuff. Usually the logic is minimized and ain’t nobody got time for that

HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 04:28 next collapse

Putin’s speed run to being Xi’s bitch

RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world on 03 Feb 2024 11:48 collapse

Yeah, no. Crude and coal are still 95% USD denominated, and that’s more than half Russia’s exports.