‘You are all worse than each other’: anti-regime Iranians turn on Trump (www.theguardian.com)
from FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 14 Mar 13:30
https://lemmy.world/post/44248473

“I genuinely believe now they [the US and Israel] didn’t have a plan. I was still hoping I was wrong, but the Shahran attack changed the way I look at this war right now,” he said. “If the regime is what you want to hit, even if you think these depots were used by the regime, where do you draw the line? What about us, the ordinary Iranians? We rely on this civil infrastructure. Why take away our ability to govern in the future? Who can rebuild utter ruins?”

Amir said he now had constant anxiety about Iran “turning into another Iraq”, a country the US invaded in 2003, promising freedom but delivering a civil war. Israeli leaders have also previously called on Palestinians in Gaza and the Lebanese people to rise up against oppression, only to later kill them in large numbers.

“My heart is so heavy,” said Amir. “I don’t even have tears left. Only anger and more anger. At this regime, and them,” he added, referring to the US and Israel.

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FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world on 14 Mar 13:41 next collapse

Man, I wish I could live in a world where I could have any hope for a positive outcome from US military intervention, but I’ve ready too many history books. The only positive thing here is that Iran is fighting back, because capitulating to Donald only makes things worse.

I wish I knew how to make Americans more empathetic and anti-war.

panda_abyss@lemmy.ca on 14 Mar 14:10 next collapse

This situation is beyond sad.

I feel for the people of Iran, who like any of just want to live. I was hoping they would get regime change for a long time, and was hoping the protests would have worked, but they didn’t and then the US just put the final nail in the coffin.

The US really fucked this up beyond all feasible resolutions. And once again the people are the ones who suffer.

Asafum@lemmy.world on 14 Mar 14:23 next collapse

5 years down the line, idiots in the US again: WhY dO ThEy SaY DeAtH tO AmErIcA!? ThEy HaTe OuR fReEdUmB!

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world on 14 Mar 14:26 next collapse

Abso-fucking-lutely they will. Our people, by and large, are truly ignorant when it comes to the realities of war.

Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world on 14 Mar 18:35 next collapse

I’ve never been to war, but I did join (got discharged before I could finish my last week of boot, but that’s another story) I study war at least. Not just the logistics of it or the battles written by poets. But the actual tellings by the men and women (a lot of men) about the horrors of it.

The monsters it brings out in humans. The bloodlust that can overtake some of us. Like hell on a bike, wasn’t it Osama that like half life and counter strike? There’s a chance we played with that dude at one point… besides becoming a leader of a radical group and doing bad shit, he probably was a normal dude. But the constant war, the constant bloodshed, the constant invading forces raping your people…who the fuck wouldn’t change.

And see, I get that. I see why they hate us. I don’t hate them, I hate what they’ve become, but it’s our fault, and I don’t blame em one bit. The hardest thing is that I see how few people around here get that or understand it or even try to see it from their side. Some folks do, but for the most part, it’s like being trapped in a room with idiots who repeat what they hear each other saying.

(By around here, I mean in the states, not on lemmy, y’all are pretty okay for the most part.)

bagsy@lemmy.world on 14 Mar 20:05 collapse

its by design. the media doesnt allow real discourse or real debates any more.

Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca on 14 Mar 14:38 collapse

ThEy HaTe OuR fReEdUmB!

Is that the prisoners in the concentration camps, or the guards who rape, torture and kill them who say that?

grte@lemmy.ca on 14 Mar 14:52 collapse

It was foolish to think Trump was bombing Iran for any other reason than Netanyahu talked him into it and that it makes his dick hard.

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world on 14 Mar 14:54 collapse

You’re not wrong.

We have the Mad King in charge of all this, and to him, it makes perfect sense to carpet bomb tens of thousands of people in order to feel like a big boy.