Is Trump 'Considering' Leaving NATO? Unverified, Unevidenced Claims Spread
(www.newsweek.com)
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from 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org to world@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 21:36
https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/29733792
Now, with Russian talks on the way, unverified and sourceless rumors spread on social media that the president was planning to withdraw from NATO.
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Newsweek speculating on what “unverified and sourceless rumors” might be about.
Quality journalism.
I mean Newsweek has been a tabloid for a while (if they were ever a reputable journal to begin with)
I know. This is real rock bottom stuff though.
Fair enough.
I mean, there are sources there. It’s just…not people who would have current, inside information. John Bolton hasn’t been in government since he was National Security Advisor under Trump in Trump’s first term and the two fell out. He’s been asserting that Trump doesn’t like NATO or alliances at all for some time, though, based on his interactions with Trump in Term 1.
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Here’s him in 2022, back before he expected Trump to actually make it into a second term:
businessinsider.com/bolton-putin-waiting-for-trum…
EDIT: It’d actually be interesting to see whether Trump can withdraw from NATO. Remarkably-enough, this is a part of American constitutional law that has never been legally-resolved: does the President, acting solo, have the ability to terminate a ratified treaty without action from Congress?
The question was raised with SCOTUS in Goldwater v. Carter, but that case was dismissed on a technicality, so we don’t really have a ruling on the matter.
To enter into a treaty, like NATO, the Senate’s approval is required. So it does seem reasonable to me that going to the Senate should be required to exit a treaty. But…we haven’t actually established what the rule there is, even after nearly two-and-a-half centuries of being a country.
EDIT2: The UK recently had to fight out a similar question over Brexit in their Supreme Court: could the Prime Minister, without action from Parliament, withdraw from the European Union?
en.wikipedia.org/…/R_(Miller)_v_Secretary_of_Stat…
In that case, their Supreme Court ruled no, that the Prime Minister couldn’t singlehandedly leave the European Union, had to go back to Parliament.
EDIT3: I’d also add that I am dubious that Trump would leave NATO, even if Europe refuses to spend another cent on defense. I do think that he would potentially retaliate in other ways. I think that m
Congratulations on that essay, but none of that has anything to do with my point about the article.
Well, the current administration has already somewhat hinted at bringing more of their troops back home to the U.S.
I mean, America needs to protect itself from those vile despicable Canadians with their kind mannerisms, universal healthcare and federally legalized weed.
Just think of what would happen if Universal healthcare ended up in America. Shareholders would be pissed.
Plus, you either protect Europe from Russia or you invade Greenland. Can’t be both.
You don’t do either, you just buy Greenland, with Elmo’s money, obviously.
Of course he will leave NATO if allowed.
Allowed? Who’s going to stop him? Is it not clear at this point that he does not care about the law?
He started doing this in his first term. What has changed since then? He’s still Putin’s stooge so leaving NATO is on the docket to help undermine Europe so Russia can invade.
NATO should have been dissolved decades ago.
The caliber of journalism in general has fallen so far from “incisive” that we’re gonna have to start digging a hole to find it soon