Venezuela’s Maduro just tightened his grip on power. What comes next?
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from jeffw@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 01:14
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How the hell does a dictator tighten their grip on power?
Is it the difference between maintaining appearances and dropping the façade? Because that’s all it could ever seem like IMO.
Before the election, nobody was sure if Maduro would leave if he lost, because Chavistas could win elections in the past. Now it’s clear that they can’t and won’t leave…they didn’t even have a fig leaf of faked stats ready to at least save face. It is officially an unashamed dictatorship now.
NED sponsored ‘student’ protests, probably. Gotta get some democracy to all those oil reserves
Yes, because no population on this planet ever acts against their dictators without the U.S. forcing them to do so.
FTFY
That explains the Chinese revolution, the Mexican revolution, hell the French revolution too :)
It certainly helps to explain America’s long history of regime change and destabilisation initiatives
Therefore stolen elections by leftists are allowed forever.
Nah, only the right are allowed to steal elections, you win.
no, those we agree on, it is you who are inconsistent and consider “leftist” coups good for some ideological reason.
We = US/Nato + poodles and sycophants
The only reason “we” care is because of oil. If you think it is anything to do with democracy I’d like to remind you that the tooth fairy comes at 8.00pm
Fuck oil. Venezuela’s is meant to stay in the ground anyway, not ramp up, we’re already at 1.5C. I guess that is a good reason to support Maduro’s retardedness.
'murica’s war machine would be severely impeded without oil. Also controlling the flow of oil affects the ability of countries the US doesn’t like to defend themselves from aggression
If we only want to overthrow leftists because of economic resources.
Then why has the Biden administration kept good relations with the socialist president of Chile, one of the world’s largest producers of cobalt, instead of overthrowing him like we did with Allende?
Why did Biden save Brazil, an oil producing nation, and it’s socialist president from a fascist coup?
Speaking of oil, wouldn’t it be good if one of the nations extracting some of the dirtiest oil that can be extracted couldn’t sell it so easily what with climate change and all?
Hey, that’s already happening with Venezuela!
Yes yes, I know, whatabout whatabout whatabout America? Make it harder for America to sell oil too. I won’t complain.
It’s not even a leftist thing, the U.S. opposes right-wing power grabs and coups abroad as well, and has for at least two decades.
did you want to try again?
When your government botches an election in such a spectacular way, it is expected that the population would react in any country. I don’t know where you live, but if some protofascist steals an election e.g. Bolsonaro/Trump, we will both be out there rioting with good reason, it won’t be because the CIA paid us.
Or in other words: Potential protesters are not sitting at home like “Oh man, I so want to protest this shit, but the CIA didn’t pay me yet, so I can’t :(”
Sure. The Velvet Revolution.
Or are you going to claim that Czechs and Slovaks have no self-determination? I’m sure some here will be willing to chime in and tell you otherwise.
Plenty of revolutions have happened, before, during, and after the Cold War without U.S. support, the U.S. actively opposed the breakup of the Soviet Union for example, and yet it happened, and several democracies were created from it’s downfall, with little influence from the U.S.
Even if the U.S. government did regularly fund protests/resistance against dictatorships, why would that be a bad thing? As long as it’s not singlehandedly deciding on regime change like in Iraq, I don’t see anything morally wrong with supporting pro-democracy causes within dictatorships.
Yea, and it was the CIA who stole the election too to make Maduro look bad. Those machiavellian americans!