Donald Trump says US will take over Cuba ‘almost immediately’ (www.newsweek.com)
from 8oow3291d@feddit.dk to world@lemmy.world on 02 May 14:15
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President Donald Trump said Friday during remarks in Florida that the United States would take over Cuba “almost immediately,” suggesting an aircraft carrier could be positioned offshore after the conflict in Iran.

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While the president’s comments appeared partly joking, they followed concrete policy action in the form of broadened sanctions.

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8oow3291d@feddit.dk on 02 May 14:16 next collapse

The article says “partly joking”, but it would be insane to not take the US President seriously when he says stuff like that.

green_red_black@slrpnk.net on 02 May 14:29 next collapse

He no doubt does want to do a regime change operation against Cuba. It’s just the resources are tied up with trying to get Iran to re-open the strait, give up their nuclear program, and disband the Axis of Resistance Network.

Result is the US is not coming and any change has to happen inside the country. Which isn’t going to happen thanks to the US starving the people of needed resources

Maeve@kbin.earth on 02 May 14:57 next collapse

Result is the US is not coming and any change has to happen inside the country.

And the Cuban people overall like their government. Any pressing issues are wholly the fault of the USA, as far as can be assessed.

crandlecan@mander.xyz on 02 May 15:16 next collapse

No they don’t lmao. Only the old generations still alive after the Revolution when they kicked out the USA are still die-hards. Most of the younger to middle aged people in general hate the Cuban government. How couldn’t they? They live the life while regular ppl have nothing due to the horrible sanctions by the USA. You don’t win hearts and minds with poverty, hunger, disease and death.

In regards to the sanctions: that’s a crime against humanity for an island like Cuba.

Maeve@kbin.earth on 02 May 15:19 next collapse

I doubt the Cuban people blame their government for illegal USA sanctions.

crandlecan@mander.xyz on 02 May 17:59 collapse

Yes they do. Spent 2 months there in March last year.

Maeve@kbin.earth on 02 May 18:42 next collapse

Lol 🤓

frongt@lemmy.zip on 02 May 22:24 collapse

Sounds misplaced, then, because they are being sanctioned by the US for literally just existing as an independent country

green_red_black@slrpnk.net on 02 May 15:51 collapse

While the Cuban people don’t love the sanctions the reason for anti-goverment sentiment is the state apparatus not looking like doing anything to resolve the crisis but put more in the so called revolutionary defense committee and security institutions

crandlecan@mander.xyz on 02 May 18:00 collapse

Exactly

green_red_black@slrpnk.net on 02 May 15:48 collapse

Sorry but from the information I can gather the Cuban people have similar opinions as Iranians have for their government.

They don’t like them, with real reason for no revolution because the US is not genuinely helping the people but trying to get their own oligarchs in power.

With both sides shooting the best the people in the middle can do is keep their head down and survive (unfortunately)

realitista@lemmy.world on 02 May 16:19 collapse

The US will use up all it’s ammo on these operations and squander all it’s goodwill with allies, then someone will probably attack it’s interests around the world.

Maeve@kbin.earth on 02 May 18:43 next collapse

Ojalá

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz on 02 May 19:06 collapse

I for one will welcome our new Chinese overlords, as long as they install solar everywhere and execute a bunch of billionaires.

green_red_black@slrpnk.net on 02 May 22:50 collapse

Certainly will get the panels. But the Billionaires are safe so long as they pay the party tribute

el_muerte@lemmy.ca on 02 May 15:08 next collapse

Yep. He’s “partly joking” about everything right up until the second he isn’t.

Kirp123@lemmy.world on 02 May 15:51 next collapse

That’s what we call sane washing. He’s one of the most powerful people on the planet, his words have weight, this is not some crazy guy on the street corner.

ripcord@lemmy.world on 02 May 20:23 collapse

Just a crazy guy in the oval office

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz on 02 May 19:05 collapse

suggesting an aircraft carrier could be positioned offshore after the conflict in Iran.

Don’t worry, the “conflict” in Iran isn’t ending any time soon…

dermanus@lemmy.ca on 03 May 00:51 collapse

What are you talking about? It ended at least three times already this year!

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz on 03 May 06:32 collapse

That’s so much winning, I just can’t keep up.

Maybe if he ends the war a few more times he’ll finally get that peace prize…

Gnugit@aussie.zone on 02 May 14:17 next collapse

A three day special operation?

crandlecan@mander.xyz on 02 May 15:17 collapse

A quick adventure. In. Out. Nobody will even notice 👍

blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 May 14:22 next collapse

After the conflict with Iran?

The conflict that you’re currently “winning”?

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca on 02 May 14:30 next collapse

I got worried for a second.

turtlesareneat@piefed.ca on 02 May 15:48 next collapse

Iran is a quagmire but only has a tiny fraction of our military involved, so there’s plenty of capacity for more war to shift the narrative.

DiarrheaSommelier@lemmy.ca on 02 May 20:44 collapse

He has won it and ended it completely at least (checks notes) 17 times now! Nobody has ever ended the same war that many times in all of history!

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 02 May 14:23 next collapse

Liar lies, hater hates. “news”

crandlecan@mander.xyz on 02 May 15:18 collapse

Aaaw poor snowflake. Do the facts hurt your feel-feels? 😭

newton@feddit.online on 02 May 15:26 collapse

Why repeat yourself 😰😰

newton@feddit.online on 02 May 14:34 next collapse

Don’t clic , just lies ahead

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crandlecan@mander.xyz on 02 May 15:18 collapse

Aaaw poor snowflake. Do the facts hurt your feel-feels? 😭

newton@feddit.online on 02 May 15:23 collapse

😂 😂😂 👌 , nope

cecilkorik@piefed.ca on 02 May 14:51 next collapse

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floofloof@lemmy.ca on 02 May 15:11 next collapse

Because a communist country minding its own business while trying to provide for its people is evil, while a capitalist country bombing country after country non-stop for decades while trying to provide for a handful of billionaire sociopath pedophiles is good.

crandlecan@mander.xyz on 02 May 15:16 collapse

When you put it like that … :)

magnue@lemmy.world on 02 May 16:00 next collapse

Control of trade routes

ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee on 02 May 16:19 collapse

Still trying to outrun Epstein

unmagical@lemmy.ml on 02 May 15:05 next collapse

The biggest problem in Cuba is the blockade.

crandlecan@mander.xyz on 02 May 15:17 collapse

Truth

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 02 May 15:07 next collapse

after the conflict in Iran.

Sounds like they’re safe then.

Akh@lemmy.world on 02 May 15:43 next collapse

He lost to Iran, if he loses to Cuba, that is going to be insane

magnue@lemmy.world on 02 May 16:00 next collapse

I’ve heard this one before

ptz@dubvee.org on 02 May 16:21 next collapse

Remember when we “couldn’t” help Puerto Rico after Maria because Puerto Rico is an island, surrounded by big water, ocean water?

Trump on Friday said the disaster relief effort in Puerto Rico is complicated because it is “surrounded by water.” “This is an island, surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water,” the president said during a speech in Washington on his tax plan.

Creddit@lemmy.world on 02 May 17:12 next collapse

I’m pretty sure invading Cuba during this Trump administration would result in the next(Democrat) administration following through with complete annexation and, I’d wager, the creation of a new US State of Cuba.

It may even result in Puerto Rico statehood and D.C. statehood simultaneously.

Because, by the time Trump is out of office, the news cycle will have moved all the way through outrage to regret to acceptance and finally to “what is the most humane thing to do now?”

Democrat liberal voters will conveniently conclude the most ethical path is to make more left-leaning states while they have the chance, because not doing so means the following elections lean rightward again and risk another Trump-like administration takes over.

partofthevoice@lemmy.zip on 02 May 18:13 next collapse

I hate that. Because that means some philosophers are right about modern liberalism. You pretend to have tolerance, freedom, open-debate… until you really want or need something, then you elect a tyrannical leader who will break the rules to get you where you need to be. After that, you collect your wins and the charade of liberalism goes back up.

We need a long reckoning after Trump. Not a win.

Creddit@lemmy.world on 02 May 19:18 collapse

I don’t follow philosophical literature, but I almost 100% agree with that.

The only thing I would add is that modern American “liberals” are like the modern American “religious”. They vote for people who call themselves “liberal” and they call themselves “liberal” but they don’t read and they don’t really believe canonical “liberal” things if those positions do not serve them personally on issues they care about.

I do not believe there is a monolithic “liberalism”. To have a philosophical discussion about “liberalism” we have to paint in broad coalition strokes to stipulate that “liberals” are a cohesive group anymore(going back as far as I can remember, not just the last decade).

I think the prevailing popular realization is that both the Democrat and Republican parties are parties of the wealthy capital class and, importantly, that the wealthy capital class majorly overlaps with an unethical and violently extremist “Epstein” class.

Progressive candidates begrudgingly run under the Democrat banner while Libertarian candidates begrudgingly run under the Republican banner, but there is now a single “liberal”(read “change”) issue on the minds of the American electorate across both parties: Will the candidate bring the “Epstein” class to sufficient justice?

I think this single issue will override voting axes for a decade, beyond even questions about going to war or annexing another country.

I don’t think “liberalism” is a charade per se, I just think Americans are facing so many existential political problems that they have to prioritize and I’d wager they will prioritize voting for someone who will force Trump’s cadre of pedophiles to trial even if that someone is also annexing Cuba.

Maeve@kbin.earth on 02 May 18:48 collapse

Uh huh. 😒

theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 May 17:12 next collapse

Helping Marco Rubio fulfill his lifelong dream.

bufalo1973@piefed.social on 02 May 23:16 collapse

When his family got out THREE years BEFORE the revolution. So they had to fled FROM BATISTA.

cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca on 02 May 17:26 next collapse

[x] doubt

Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world on 02 May 23:05 collapse

America is already attacking cuba by stopping all oil and energy towards the country, untill they release some political prisoners… according to news, america is holding cuba hostage energy wise… wtf

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 02 May 17:40 next collapse

So now we’re off to murder a whole bunch of innocent Cubans for literally no reason beyond that probably the president was paid by someone to do this, after which we’ll break our nose bloody again and fail, after which we’ll look like even bigger losers to the entire world, after which we’ll just declare victory and leave.

The US, ladies and gentlemen

4am@lemmy.zip on 02 May 18:38 collapse

“The Aristocrats!”

Vandals_handle@lemmy.world on 02 May 23:31 collapse

Naw, their act is too highbrow for US

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz on 02 May 19:04 next collapse

Gotta distract from the failure of his pointless war in Iran by starting a new pointless war with a country that’s more vulnerable…

Fucking fascist.

favoredponcho@lemmy.zip on 02 May 19:46 next collapse

America First is going great

jasoman@lemmy.world on 02 May 20:46 collapse

First 1 world country drove into the ground.

BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 02 May 21:23 collapse

Nah, it’s only first world if you are wealthy, white, male, and christian. Everyone else gets sparking individualism.

ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz on 02 May 19:49 next collapse

Peace President keeping up the peace with yet another war.

kubok@fedia.io on 02 May 19:56 next collapse

In other news: the US is runnig out of ammo. Yeah sure, let's open up a new front.

Dementeid old fool.

TransNeko@lemmy.world on 02 May 22:41 next collapse

don’t worry… he already forgot that he is at war with Iran. he has to be reminded of it hourly.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 03 May 03:37 collapse

the US is runnig out of ammo

If I had a dollar for every time I read the “American military running out of ammo” story, I’d be richer than a Lockheed executive.

Americans are so easily gaslit on this shit. You can jump out behind a corner shouting “We don’t have enough tomahawk missiles!” and they’ll reflexively hand you $20B.

Dryad@lemmy.world on 02 May 20:15 next collapse

It’ll be total control almost as fast as his total control over Iran.

What’s the clear and present danger for this one again?

Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works on 02 May 20:22 next collapse

Remember when our heads felt so quiet, because we were not constantly bombarded by the shit coming out of the president of the united states mouth? I miss that blessed time.

NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world on 02 May 20:22 next collapse

He can only declare war for 60 days. Iran is up, Cuba next. Then Greenland, etc etc etc

And even thats not legal, its using made up reasons.

Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world on 02 May 23:00 collapse

Greenland is currently postponed cause we solidified it in the 150 billion EU-US trade deal, that trump made with ursula, Europe hasn’t signed it yet, and added trump-proof guard rails, if trump threatens to take greenland one more time the deal is off the table. And maybe we should make a pact with south america and other nations against american imperialism, the new nato to protect against american aggression

Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world on 02 May 22:58 next collapse

Can’t we make a nato with all those countries, to protect against america? if we all threaten to attack america together we can withhold them, you know diplomacy over force

finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world on 03 May 01:34 next collapse

You can almost hear Hegseth’s glee on the wind as life comes back to his whisky dick at the thought of an opportunity to mass murder more civilians.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 03 May 03:34 collapse

That’s Rubio getting his rocks off. Hegseth has less of a dog in the Cuban fight because he never clicked on it in a game of Crusader Kings.

theacharnian@lemmy.ca on 03 May 02:37 next collapse

The Evil Empire is overextending.

TwinTitans@lemmy.world on 03 May 03:16 collapse

😂 Do you have any shred of a plan this time? You sure Putin would let you?