IBM CEO: We Listen to What Israel and Saudi Arabia Consider “Correct Behavior” (theintercept.com)
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RegalPotoo@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 06:30 next collapse

Tbh, given how out of their way IBM went to enable the holocaust, I don’t think they really should be weighing in on this one

deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz on 05 Sep 2024 06:42 next collapse

We try to operate with the principles that are encouraged by the governments of the countries we are in. We are a U.S. headquarter company. So, what does the U.S. federal government want to do on international relations? That helps guide a lot of what we do. We operate in many countries. We operate in Israel, but we also operate in Saudi Arabia. What do those countries want us to do? And what is it they consider to be correct behavior?

Who’s to say genocide(or anything for that matter) is bad when we can enhance shareholder value?

dumbass@leminal.space on 05 Sep 2024 13:00 next collapse

Genocides never been an issue with IBM.

deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz on 05 Sep 2024 20:22 next collapse

One might say it’s their cornerstone.

lightscription@lemmy.world on 12 Sep 2024 04:09 collapse

They made a mistake. As history proves, a big one. But any technical company could. So did the makers of cyclon. Apple or Windows could. The AI could exterminate us all as useless humans with low worth. The values of the current CEO should matter if they translate into real world policies, such as, defending human rights.

k_rol@lemmy.ca on 05 Sep 2024 18:17 collapse

According to the Global Slavery Index 2023, an estimated 21.3 in every thousand people were in modern slavery in Saudi Arabia at any point in 2021. In other words, 740,000 people experienced forced labour or forced marriage in Saudi Arabia in 2020. Saudi Arabia ranks 4th globally and 1st within the Arab States.

This is considered correct behavior so we see no issue, right?

deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz on 05 Sep 2024 20:22 collapse

I kind of get the idea.

It’s not [company’s] role to change the way [country] operates. But [company] can choose to not operate in [country].

IBM’s chief executive psychopath obviously had this explained to him but stopped listening half way through.

sleepmode@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 07:03 next collapse

Arvind regularly makes it clear in meetings that he doesn’t give a flying flip what the employees think or feel and that he knows best. So this is not shocking. He’s made similar bootlicker comments before. I’m sort of surprised more of his terrible takes aren’t made public.

Stiffneckedppl@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 11:48 next collapse

I miss Ginni! She was so much better.

k_rol@lemmy.ca on 05 Sep 2024 18:21 collapse

The shareholders disagree seeing the stock prices… I do though, she was more human.

k_rol@lemmy.ca on 05 Sep 2024 18:20 collapse

I can confirm the same as well. I left IBM in part because of him. The more he spoke, the less I felt like an IBMer.

I’m surprised too that he has not gone viral yet on his takes.

Mrkawfee@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 09:20 next collapse

Wow he really is a piece of shit.

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 05 Sep 2024 09:32 next collapse

For many workers, the question of where IBM might draw the line with foreign governments is particularly fraught given the company’s grim track record of selling computers and services to both apartheid South Africa and Nazi Germany.

answersplease77@lemmy.world on 06 Sep 2024 08:59 collapse

Oh, so I think what he means by “correct behavior” is “good cash”

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 10:40 collapse

This is extremely similar to Elon Musk’s “clarification” on what he means by free speech:

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/1b5ab74d-acda-4d0e-90d9-4467b44588bf.png">

cmhe@lemmy.world on 06 Sep 2024 06:26 next collapse

Right, they saying “We are just following the law.” as if that was an apolitical statement. While they still get to choose whom laws to follow by deciding where to make business, which are political decisions.

As you see with Twitter or starlink, they decided to be do business in Brazil, but when the country actually have laws against uncontrolled mass propaganda and hate speech, they are suddenly against the law, and do not try to stop or limit doing their business there, when they do not want or can’t abide by these laws.

symthetics@lemmy.world on 06 Sep 2024 11:05 collapse

Jesus could he be more vague and incoherent?

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 06 Sep 2024 11:12 collapse

That was the point. He was defending his deleting posts and accounts at the behest of Turkey and India. Suddenly he had to come up with some reason why his claim of supposed free speech absolutism wasn’t all that absolute.

symthetics@lemmy.world on 06 Sep 2024 11:36 collapse

Ah, makes sense. I wonder how long he can slither around like this until it finally bites him hard.