China tells WHO it has no 'unusual or novel diseases' amid spike in illness among children (www.abc.net.au)
from vxx@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 03:43
https://lemmy.world/post/8670635

The data showed an increase in hospital admissions of children due to diseases including bacterial infection, RSV, influenza and common cold viruses since October.

Leading scientists said the situation warranted close monitoring, but were not convinced the spike signalled the start of a new global outbreak.

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The standard wording of the alert echoed the first-ever notice about what would become COVID-19, sent on December 30, 2019: “Undiagnosed pneumonia — China (Hubei).”

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autotldr@lemmings.world on 24 Nov 2023 03:45 next collapse

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Chinese officials say they did not detect any “unusual or novel diseases” in the country following a spike in respiratory illnesses and clusters of pneumonia in children, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

The data showed an increase in hospital admissions of children due to diseases including bacterial infection, RSV, influenza and common cold viruses since October.

Leading scientists said the situation warranted close monitoring, but were not convinced the spike signalled the start of a new global outbreak.

Scientists said the similarity of the two alerts had stirred as-yet-unfounded worries the surge may be caused by another emerging pathogen that could spark a pandemic.

They said based on the information so far, it was more likely to be a rise in other common respiratory infections like flu, as was seen in many parts of the world after COVID lockdowns were lifted.

The rise in respiratory illnesses comes as China braces for its first full winter season since it lifted strict COVID-19 restrictions in December.


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Lauchs@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 04:07 next collapse

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NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 04:20 next collapse

I call dibs on the toilet paper this time

Isoprenoid@programming.dev on 24 Nov 2023 05:18 next collapse

My brother in Christ, we’ve all switched to bidets anyway.

Orbituary@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 05:54 collapse

My comrade in Satan, I switched to bidet in the first few months of pandemic and never looked back.

BitPirate@feddit.de on 24 Nov 2023 06:05 collapse

Why would you? You don’t have to wipe anymore.

Fal@yiffit.net on 24 Nov 2023 06:41 collapse

If you’re not wiping at all, even once at the end, that’s disgusting. A bidet isn’t sufficient by itself

Orbituary@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 07:59 collapse

Um, wrong. Also, I usually go through two cycles. It’s a multi-angle, moving sprayer that can be repositioned as it washes. After three years with it, the only times I’ve needed paper were when I was ill.

Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social on 24 Nov 2023 08:02 collapse

So you don’t dry yourself after using a bidet?

IjonTichy@kbin.social on 24 Nov 2023 09:03 next collapse

2023 - still doesn't know how to use the 3 seashells. LOL

boredtortoise@lemm.ee on 24 Nov 2023 10:57 collapse

Maybe they have the poopy towel

Orbituary@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 16:22 collapse

Bingo.

boredtortoise@lemm.ee on 24 Nov 2023 16:41 next collapse

No I don’t want that

Fal@yiffit.net on 24 Nov 2023 19:43 collapse

Disgusting

steebo_jack@kbin.social on 24 Nov 2023 07:47 collapse

I still got my stash from covid...it will be there for the end of times...

IAmWaitingForARetcon@lemm.ee on 24 Nov 2023 05:00 next collapse

Covid has forever tainted China in the eyes of the world in this aspect- few will ever believe them when they say that there’s no novel disease.

Melkath@kbin.social on 24 Nov 2023 05:14 next collapse

There is no novel disease.

Its Covid. Covid is now endemic and newer mutations are targeting youth.

alternative_factor@kbin.social on 24 Nov 2023 07:01 next collapse

That's interesting I read that it was Mycoplasma pneumoniae, not a new pathogen but a report says it's resistant to a new antibiotic.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-hospitals-children-pneumonia-respiratory-illness-who-data-rcna126480

Melkath@kbin.social on 24 Nov 2023 20:25 collapse

The concealment of covid data that began about a year ago to hide the truth.

alternative_factor@kbin.social on 24 Nov 2023 22:47 collapse

Yes of course China covered up COVID, however I believe that this actually probably is M. Pneumoniae as it's famous for spreading in schools amongst children as well as already resistant to many antibiotics because it has no cell wall.
My one concern is that this could secretly be a human to human form of avian influenza, but there is absolutely no hiding a disease with a mortality rate on par with Ebola (30-50% or 18-30%- as much as Spanish Flu or the black death) for very long at all. COVID has around a 1% mortality rate and there were people posting videos of people dying in the streets on Chinese social media, if it's avian flue than there will be mass graves on an unheard of scale.

Melkath@kbin.social on 25 Nov 2023 04:20 collapse

So you agree.

Masks and social distancing saves lives from not only covid, but from a series of other similar pathogens.

alternative_factor@kbin.social on 25 Nov 2023 04:34 collapse

Yes masking is essential.

ubermeisters@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 14:33 collapse

Source?

Kbin_space_program@kbin.social on 24 Nov 2023 06:54 next collapse

Covid. And Swine Flu. And Bird Flu.

that's just the last 20 years.

Lmaydev@programming.dev on 24 Nov 2023 07:56 collapse

Swine flu had its first outbreak in America.

Kbin_space_program@kbin.social on 24 Nov 2023 08:08 collapse

It was proven that transmission of swine flu to humans was possible in a study in Iowa in 2004. The same year that transmission to humans actually happened in the wild in China.

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ubermeisters@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 14:33 next collapse

That is not true

PreviouslyAmused@lemmy.ml on 24 Nov 2023 15:38 collapse

You were around when this happened. For gods sake it was all happening live in front of everyone a couple of years ago.

It’s literally impossible for you to actually be this ignorant about it.

I understand trolling, I get the propaganda hype, I get brain rot; but this, this is just plain ignorant.

CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml on 03 Dec 2023 17:58 collapse

That is entirely not untrue. This is pure anti-china propaganda that is very easily verifiable.

The earliest examples of COVID were found by Zhang Jixian and the hospital alerted in 27th of December. This was communicated to the WHO the 31st of December after a larger amount of cases were identified (Source: official WHO publication). The timeline is abundantly clear

There are some traces of COVID that date back to November 2019 in China, but that is also true in Europe so that’s hardly a proof of Chinese maliciousness.

We were told lies about how China didn’t warn us because our politicians – I’m saying that as an European but that’s true of the US as well – ostensibly refused to hear China’s warnings for weeks before we started seeing cases skyrocket. So their choice was to either take responsibility, or blame someone else. China is both the origin country of the disease and a political enemy, so it was the easiest target.

Endorkend@kbin.social on 24 Nov 2023 07:23 next collapse

Ah shit.

seaQueue@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 08:56 next collapse

There is no novel illness in Ba Sing Se

dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 17:28 collapse

In much the same way, I wonder if Chinese scientists and other non-party-officers were actually trying to warn the rest of us back in 2020, by all stating the same exact party line loudly and often. Kind of a cross-cultural accident as we’re not used to the subtleties of living there?

Xeknos@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 09:45 next collapse

So we’re doing this again, are we

wabafee@lemm.ee on 24 Nov 2023 16:08 collapse

Three times the charm!

Kusimulkku@lemm.ee on 24 Nov 2023 09:58 next collapse

China why do you have to be like this

dangblingus@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 16:43 collapse

The data showed an increase in hospital admissions of children due to diseases including bacterial infection, RSV, influenza and common cold viruses since October.

Leading scientists said the situation warranted close monitoring, but were not convinced the spike signalled the start of a new global outbreak.

Kusimulkku@lemm.ee on 24 Nov 2023 16:47 collapse

The standard wording of the alert echoed the first-ever notice about what would become COVID-19, sent on December 30, 2019: “Undiagnosed pneumonia — China (Hubei).”

If China would be more open about this stuff everyone would be a lot less worried

SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 11:22 next collapse

Remind yourself that there are people even in normal countries defending ch*nas communism, policies and culture. That shithole has to be plugged off from the rest of the world by any means necessary, no one in, no one out

Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de on 24 Nov 2023 13:52 next collapse
I trust China. No one from China would ever lie about a possible health crisis.
dangblingus@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 16:43 collapse

While I totally hear you, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. They said it was bacterial infections, RSV, and the common cold, and even leading scientists are saying this is normal. The headline is meant to incite surface level reactions like yours.

wabafee@lemm.ee on 24 Nov 2023 16:08 next collapse

Oh boi here we go again 💀

dangblingus@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 16:44 next collapse

To quote the blurb in the post that apparently no one read:

The data showed an increase in hospital admissions of children due to diseases including bacterial infection, RSV, influenza and common cold viruses since October.

Leading scientists said the situation warranted close monitoring, but were not convinced the spike signalled the start of a new global outbreak.

TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 17:03 next collapse

To me, nothing has quite damaged China’s reputation more in recent years than how they handled Covid. Yes, I’m aware of the human rights abuses, Hong Kong and all of that. There’s not an excuse to not be fully transparent and absolutely accommodating and helpful to your fellow nations in the face of a global pandemic. This major L for China’s standing in the global community.

rosymind@leminal.space on 24 Nov 2023 18:43 next collapse

Agreed. Their human rights abuses concern those with empathy. The consequences of Covid 19 were felt by almost everyone across the globe (one way or another)

assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world on 24 Nov 2023 19:48 collapse

There’s not an excuse to not be fully transparent and absolutely accommodating and helpful to your fellow nations in the face of a global pandemic.

Absolutely. I can’t blame them for COVID happening. It was one of the most unique situations of our lives, and it’s not like most Western governments did a good job either.

But not cooperating with a thorough investigation into the cause, and taking action to stop it from ever happening again? Being cagey about a possible novel bug? It’s like they’ve purposely chosen to handle this in the least diplomatic way possible.

HawlSera@lemm.ee on 24 Nov 2023 18:50 collapse

If you believe anything China says you’re a goddamn moron